Israel/Palestine thread

Israel/Palestine thread

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Discuss my fellow 2+2ers..

AM YISRAEL CHAI.

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07 October 2023 at 09:33 PM
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Ass-sore Israel shill DBF doubts that Israel is a US client state sustained by US goodwill despite the huge sums of money given to it by the US for decades.


by jalfrezi

2014, and a totally healthy country bombs children playing football on a beach.


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no amount of blood will sate them


by jalfrezi

Ass-sore Israel shill DBF doubts that Israel is a US client state sustained by US goodwill despite the huge sums of money given to it by the US for decades.

Do you have any idea what you’re talking about? Are you capable of a single original thought? It’s highly doubtful.


by DoyleBrunsonFan

There’s some truth to it due to the US and Israel being such close allies but in this context it’s mostly low effort propaganda. The same people trying to push the narrative that Israel was dragging the US into WW3 are probably the same ones desperately trying to smear US Israeli relations. It’s just another angle of divisive propaganda aimed at destroying the US and its all

If US and the rest of the West was neutral to Israel, I think they would be just fine. The only way for Israel to actually collapse would be a concerted effort to oppose them, and even then it would probably get really violent and bloody given the history of the region.


by DoyleBrunsonFan

Do you have any idea what you’re talking about? Are you capable of a single original thought? It’s highly doubtful.

Yes thanks, ass-sore. I looked it up l decades ago and they've been propping up that rogue state since the late 1960s iirc.


by jalfrezi

Yes thanks, ass-sore. I looked it up l decades ago and they've been propping up that rogue state since the late 1960s iirc.

Doubtful. I’d love to see you try to explain your position.


by DoyleBrunsonFan

Modern day Palestinians have no claim to any of the land in Israel and any land they may possess is by the grace of the Israelis. They should have taken one of the numerous, generous land offers the Israelis offered in the past.

If the Arabs have an issue with the land Israel has gained, they should stop attacking them.

Yeah lol.
Surely they don’t attack because they got landed steal from them for decades …

So you don’t believe in the 1948 UN plan of what Israel was suppose to be ?
So on what you base your opinion on how big Israel should be ?


by Dunyain

Israel spent decades with left wing leadership that tried making reasonable concessions with the Palestinians for peace, and received nothing but terror and destruction for their efforts. Then they elected a right wing government that promised to fight Palestinian (and their allies in terror) terrorism with force, and have been getting better results.Maybe in the very long ter

Btw I reject this notion of far right success.

After 2 decades of bibi and far right policy , the deadliest attack was done toward Israel in its history October 7 2023 under bibi regime .
That doesn’t sound like success to me .


by Montrealcorp

Btw I reject this notion of far right success.

After 2 decades of bibi and far right policy , the deadliest attack was done toward Israel in its history October 7 2023 under bibi regime .
That doesn’t sound like success to me .

The Middle East is a harsh place. Look at how Israel has done in the last 20 years, especially compared to the nations who have declared Holy Jihad to destroy Israel. Israel is doing well all things considered.

The problem with the "Israel needs to make concessions to have peace with the Palestinians and thrive" narrative is that empirical evidence doesn't defend the narrative. There is no concessions that has has brought peace. Exactly the opposite.

Palestinians were conceded control of the West Bank and 2 deadly Infintadas were launched from there. Palestinians were conceded Gaza and they gave it to Hamas, and the last 20 years happened (30,000 rockets, completely militarized city-state, and ultimately 10/7).

The Palestinians have shown no interest or capacity to accept and return any concessions or goodwill. And the only thing that gives any results with them has been overwhelming, disproportionate force.


by DoyleBrunsonFan

Doubtful. I’d love to see you try to explain your position.



Israel army doing usual Israel army things


by jalfrezi

Israel army doing usual Israel army things

Professor Maynard (not 'Dr', because UK surgeons aren't called that) is a gastrointestinal surgeon and longstanding volunteer for Medical Aid for Palestinians, with a number of visits to Gaza since 2010. This year he was one of the first recipients of the newly instituted UK Humanitarian Medal for his work in Gaza.


I should maybe mention that the medal is not a Mickey Mouse thing, it's official and is awarded by the King.


by jalfrezi

This single Wikipedia paragraph says nothing about Israel being completely reliant on the US. Can you explain anything in your own words?

If you read the Wikipedia article past the first paragraph (the only part Jalfrwzi read), you’ll see the last shipment of economic aid to Israel was in 2008.

And obviously the military aid has been more than justified by October 7th and the ensuing conflicts.


I didn't say anything about Israel being completely reliant on the US either, dumbo.


by jalfrezi

I didn't say anything about Israel being completely reliant on the US either, dumbo.

You can’t follow the conversation it’s ok. Either way you have no idea what you’re talking about and I’m wasting my time.

The Palestinians are far more reliant on foreign aid than the Israelis.


Incredible what you can learn about your own stupidity when you re-read something isn't it, shite for brains?


by jalfrezi

Incredible what you can learn about your own stupidity when you re-read something isn't it, shite for brains?

I have no clue what you’re even on about. Wasting my time.


by DoyleBrunsonFan

You can’t follow the conversation it’s ok. Either way you have no idea what you’re talking about and I’m wasting my time.

The Palestinians are far more reliant on foreign aid than the Israelis.

and this clown has put no thoughts into why that is.


by Victor

and this clown has put no thoughts into why that is.

In 2022 80% of Gazans were reliant on foreign aid. Even you and Jalfrezi are smart enough to figure out what’s happened to that figure since.

Peace out.


by DoyleBrunsonFan

In 2022 80% of Gazans were reliant on foreign aid. Even you and Jalfrezi are smart enough to figure out what’s happened to that figure since.

Peace out.

right they were and still are under siege and blockade. in 1943, 100% concentration camp residents were reliant on German aid.

anyway, in relevant and non-bad-faith news, a new religious symbol just dropped



by DoyleBrunsonFan

In 2022 80% of Gazans were reliant on foreign aid. Even you and Jalfrezi are smart enough to figure out what’s happened to that figure since.

Peace out.

How can that be when I hear Israel was supposed to be so good for Palestinians?


by Dunyain

The Middle East is a harsh place. Look at how Israel has done in the last 20 years, especially compared to the nations who have declared Holy Jihad to destroy Israel. Israel is doing well all things considered. The problem with the "Israel needs to make concessions to have peace with the Palestinians and thrive" narrative is that empirical evidence doesn't defend the narrati

Well at least u admit this .
Hopefully u will get to the truth someday -> genocide policies.

Ps: Btw it didn’t get there because with « the left and concession » with Palestinian because an Israel PM (Rabin) got shot by its own people…
But hey blame Palestinians all you want …..

I mean how surprising it is when 1 side getting radicalized (Israel with bibi) won’t end up radicalizing the other side ….
I’m shocked by the results of bibi success .


by Montrealcorp

How can that be when I hear Israel was supposed to be so good for Palestinians?

You’d have to ask Hamas. Or you can use google and the internet.

They’ve received billions in aid over the years and I guess the crowning achievement of all of that aid was Al Aqsa Flood.


An American teen has been kidnapped by Israeli forces and held in a brutal prison

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=_kxuBr6map...

Since being kidnapped by Israeli forces The boy has lost 25 pounds. And Has contracted scabies while in prison. The demons in Israel must be stopped…as Americans as Christian’s we must stand for our fellow Americans.

Again many Israelis are good people The problem is the demons in Israel who hold positions of power. And their supporters in the Hasbara, who lie all the time and attempt to normalize bigotry.

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