Israel/Palestine thread
Think this merits its own thread...
Discuss my fellow 2+2ers..
AM YISRAEL CHAI.
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Weird how I've been consistently correct about where this conflict was headed since day one.
i don't remember you predicting Israel would have the unprecedented, unbelivable success it had.
Syria gone , Golan heights secured, Hezbollah paged, Iran surgically bombed, Hamas leadership destroyed.
where did you predict that?
i don't remember you predicting Israel would have the unprecedented, unbelivable success it had.
Syria gone , Golan heights secured, Hezbollah paged, Iran surgically bombed, Hamas leadership destroyed.
where did you predict that?
Israel has about 20 million people yet to exterminate before they win. they still dont own Gaza yet.
i don't remember you predicting Israel would have the unprecedented, unbelivable success it had.
Syria gone , Golan heights secured, Hezbollah paged, Iran surgically bombed, Hamas leadership destroyed.
where did you predict that?
lol, you couldn't be more wrong. I predicted Israel would bomb Syria and Iran back when you guys all swore up and down that they were just gonna clear out Rafah and then let the Palestinians go back to their homes.
And of course Israel was always going to succeed in its goal of mass slaughter and the annexation of Palestinian land, that goes without saying. Who's going to stop them? The UN?
But that's a stain on Israel when majority of the deaths are innocent people. You've got madmen all around.
My guess is their ultimate goal is to make it untenable for Hamas to rebuild the Gaza fortress right along Israel’s border.
A large portion of the “innocent” deaths are on Hamas’ hands. They spent 15+ years and billions of dollars in international aid turning Gaza into a death trap for IDF and innocent Gazans alike.
The most pragmatic choice a Palestinian family could have made or could make would to be to get as far away from Hamas as possible.
btw I suppose the plane gift to trump was predicated on this not happening... sometimes it's good to have a mother****er without scruples ok your side though
It could be the other way around. There is a real chance Qatar was perfectly fine with this strike, and this is a way for them to get out of the Hamas business without losing public face.
They have already announced they are done being involved in negotiations because of this action. Very convenient.
lol, you couldn't be more wrong. I predicted Israel would bomb Syria and Iran back when you guys all swore up and down that they were just gonna clear out Rafah and then let the Palestinians go back to their homes. And of course Israel was always going to succeed in its goal of mass slaughter and the annexation of Palestinian land, that goes without saying. Who's going to stop
Hamas and Yemen are the only ones who might stop them.
Israel has about 20 million people yet to exterminate before they win. they still dont own Gaza yet.
it's still going better for Israel than anyone pro or against Israel could have predicted 2 years ago.
and even if you disagree Trump being president instead of Harris helped significantly. the complete greenlight of anything Israel wants to do wouldn't have been there with Harris.
lol, you couldn't be more wrong. I predicted Israel would bomb Syria and Iran back when you guys all swore up and down that they were just gonna clear out Rafah and then let the Palestinians go back to their homes. And of course Israel was always going to succeed in its goal of mass slaughter and the annexation of Palestinian land, that goes without saying. Who's going to stop
I guess we will have to take your word on that one.
Anyways, yes. The “bad guys” have been in Qatar for over 10 years.
it's still going better for Israel than anyone pro or against Israel could have predicted 2 years ago.
and even if you disagree Trump being president instead of Harris helped significantly. the complete greenlight of anything Israel wants to do wouldn't have been there with Harris.
Which is the most predictable thing in the world, and a promise kept from Trump.
I think the Mossad assassinating Nazis decades after they fled Germany and thought they were safe and could die in their sleep was one of the most moral and heroic events in the aftermath of WW2.
international law roflmao.
bad guys everywhere in the world should know they can never ever be safe and be targeted for assassination for the rest of their miserable lives.
I don't doubt many agree with you. They won't all be on your side
we have been talking about Qatar financing Hamas as much or more than Iran for a year already if not more in this very thread.
it was also uncontroversial knowledge that some Hamas top ppl were hosted wined and dined in Qatar
Well, it appears you’re not seeing the ulterior and public motives for what the Netanyahu administration is doing. Or you are and you accept it. And it has way more to do than “Hamas”….. for example expansionism is playing a role and also de populating Gaza. Instilling fear into gazan civilians.
Btw Obama asked Qatar to house Hamas for negations and such. Trump wanted that to.
This is what the Qatari Prime Minister told Tucker Carlson in an interview not too long ago.
“The Obama Administration Asked Qatar to Build A Hamas Office - Here’s Why”
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=L34LvmMS3i...
Ah Ben Shapiro won’t mention that though eh?
Anyway, as always you could support whoever you want, including Netanyahu. But the overwhelming majority of Christians in the west and most jews in the world oppose who and what you support.
According to pew the population of the European countries oppose the Israeli government. There’s only a few countries in Africa where most of their population support Netanyahu and that is Kenya and Nigeria.
You like Trump? he gets along incredibly with the GCC countries and was welcomed with a red carpet in Qatar. So you think Trump is Qatari agent as the hasbara claims Tucker is?
most jews in the world oppose who and what you support.
maybe they oppose Netanyahu. but they absolutely support the genocide.
Another thing that the pro Netanyahu people don’t know about or dismiss are some of the motives that Netanyahu and his cronies have for continuing this brutal war. Netanyahu was facing corruption charges in Israel before the war began.
Obviously, there’s a number of reasons mostly immoral for Netanyahu going into Gaza. But one that should really be looked into is avoiding a corruption trial by prolonging a war. And instituting new policies like press control during said war.
In before
“conspiracy theorist !!”
Sit down hasbara
there used to be a lot of non-Israeli Jews posting itt, and iirc approx 90% supported the war but not Bibi. the only remotely anti-genocide Jew that I remember was microbet.
Israel going after Hamas in Qatar now eh?
News headline says strikes "infuriated Trump advisors" and Netanyahu vocally claiming Israel initiated strikes.
Israel really gonna **** around and get squad wiped.
The State of Israel is running out of any good faith justifications for their ongoing war/genocide. Are there good faith justifications for genocide anyway? Of course not.
(Global instability intensifying)
Genocide Joe should have nipped Israel's response sooner instead of giving immediate, full support of Israel's response following the October 7th incident. But Jesuits gonna Jesuit and perpetuate the "Holy" Wars.
So Khalil Al-Hayya appeas to be alive.
Fine, this is the photo Hamas circulated
Let's say we believe it was taken after the attack in Doha, so he is alive.
At least we can put all "caresty" nonsense at rest given his size though
Another thing that the pro Netanyahu people don’t know about or dismiss are some of the motives that Netanyahu and his cronies have for continuing this brutal war. Netanyahu was facing corruption charges in Israel before the war began. Obviously, there’s a number of reasons mostly immoral for Netanyahu going into Gaza. But one that should really be looked into is avoiding a cor
Well, apparently unlike you all I am old enough to remember the main reason for the war was Palestinians invading Israel, murdering over 1,000 people, and taking a couple hundred more hostage. And while this was going on firing tens of thousands of rockets into Israel.
And Hamas has been free to immediately give all the hostages back and disarm at any point in the last 2 years, and the war would be over. And they have adamantly refused to do this. So here we are.
super normal country
oh and it looks like they bombed another boat in the flotilla some hours ago
Well, apparently unlike you all I am old enough to remember the main reason for the war was Palestinians invading Israel, murdering over 1,000 people, and taking a couple hundred more hostage. And while this was going on firing tens of thousands of rockets into Israel. And Hamas has been free to immediately give all the hostages back and disarm at any point in the last 2 year
They are so sick they will not even return the dead
I see all the outrage of Israel bombing Hamas leaders in Qatar . Qatar is harboring terrorists. Did not the USA go into Pakistan to get Bin Laden?
You like Trump? he gets along incredibly with the GCC countries and was welcomed with a red carpet in Qatar. So you think Trump is Qatari agent as the hasbara claims Tucker is?
Knight,
Your boy Fuentes says it is his mission in life to make sure Vance doesn't ever become President because he has a brown wife and children. He says he even supports Gavin Newsom over Vance, because Newsom married a white woman and had white children.
What are your thoughts on this?
They are so sick they will not even return the dead
I see all the outrage of Israel bombing Hamas leaders in Qatar . Qatar is harboring terrorists. Did not the USA go into Pakistan to get Bin Laden?
none of the people bombed were considered terrorists by International Law nor in any moral sense.
and lol at whining about returning the dead. Israel literally murders people trying to bury their dead.
and ofc they hold onto the dead indefinitely.
and ofc when they return them, its only after stripping them of their organs.
https://www.nbcnews.com/id/wbna34503294
or in otherwise demeaning fashion
lets see what else Israel does to the dead.
They are so sick they will not even return the dead
I see all the outrage of Israel bombing Hamas leaders in Qatar . Qatar is harboring terrorists. Did not the USA go into Pakistan to get Bin Laden?
Israel holds bodies too, for the same reason Hamas does. As leverage for negotiations. For example, they have Haniyeh's body, and it would probably take a tremendous concession like Hamas recognizing Israel and forsaking armed resistance for them to give it back.
That being said, Hamas has clearly miscalculated how much leverage they have between the hostages, their complete disregard of the well-being of Palestinians, and international sympathy towards their cause.
Israel holds bodies too, for the same reason Hamas does. As leverage for negotiations. For example, they have Haniyeh's body, and it would probably take a tremendous concession like Hamas recognizing Israel and forsaking armed resistance for them to give it back. That being said, Hamas has clearly miscalculated how much leverage they have between the hostages, their complete
The sympathy on paper is maybe even higher than they thought, but in practice it means close to nothing, millions of spanish, irish, french and so on antisemites agreeing with them doesn't help the cause too much
