The murder of Charlie Kirk
Can we all admit that the majority of extremism is coming from the left over the last handful of years?
Apparently they j
Can we all admit that the majority of extremism is coming from the left over the last handful of years?
Apparently they just shot Charlie Kirk. Just seems like a trend we see on here. People craft a hysterical narrative. People who are mentally unstable, unbalanced, and worse run with it. Step three is "punching a nazi" or killing baby Hitler is justified. Here we are
Just to say LOOOOL Juan Valdez
Abortion as well. Fuentes type are pro abortion because it kills a lot of non white babies (literally: that's their take on it).I think people who avoid contact with that toxic material (and i understand why someone would want to avoid it) can't fathom the depth of evil of groypers/fuentes/tate types.They had some piece by i think Fuentes which went on like 40+ min (i obv didn'
We occasionally agree on things
No, it was pretty universal that chauvin was a murderer. You can look through the Floyd thread here to see for yourself
I am quite confident you will find posters here who parroted bullshit defenses of Chauvin.
They did a real **** job if he went out and assassinated a definitely-not-fascist guy like Charlie Kirk!
What's your actual solution within the boundaries of the constitution to deal with actual radicalized groypers/fuentes "suicidal bombers"? let's say that sect manages to produce a certain number of people willing to self immolate (either on the spot or by being taken and getting the death penalty or life no parole).
How do we solve that? my proposed solution is monitoring, infiltrating, the old stuff. But i think these people are good (in the sense they are skilled at what they do), they never directly incite, they create what the left abused as a term but i think is very applicable here, stochastic assassins.
They can't know for sure that specific guy will radicalize to the point of going out and try to kill someone but they know some will, and they love that (because they think more chaos in society benefits them). They avoid crossing the obvious legal line suggesting crimes to the radicalized person other than "very theoretically" and always with disclaimers.
How do we wipe them out for good legally given that?
I only respect this take if you hold the same for every single right-winger who ran to call for civil war style retribution after a single person which they tried to say were democrats in general are also removed.
This includes libs of tiktok, matt walsh, and elon musk, to point to a few notable names.
Hello? Luciom? Do you agree that Elon Musk should be removed from civil society and never allowed to vote or do any political speech because he is a danger due to his reaction to CK’s death? No? Then stfu about removing people from civil society
The left is so radical , I wonder who was ready to hang their own VP for not obeying to an undemocratic , unconstitutional order from
Trump about trying turning the election?
the cheer on pelosi husband .
The killed one in Minnesota .
did we hear the left claim death or at war to right wing after many democrats politicians gets attacked or killed ?
Clearly the right just try find any excuses to go to war or hurt anyone on the left , even from an internet influencer that was debating kids ….
Not even a real politician like a senators ffs.
But hey denying facts is the way to go for maga .
Ps: to try to create a massive crisis between Americans because of a sole 22 years deranged kids is something …
Not if you don’t dress up in silly uniforms and do that goose-stepping and genocide thing.
Hello? Luciom? Do you agree that Elon Musk should be removed from civil society and never allowed to vote or do any political speech because he is a danger due to his reaction to CK’s death? No? Then stfu about removing people from civil society
If he had written "democrats are the party of murder" after this assassination then i would try to see what's possible to do to save ourselves from him.
But "the left" can be a very different thing. I do agree the left is inherently politically violent all the times and incompatible with civil society . See the people who cheered for the murder.
So those people are the "party of political violence", definitionally. It's ethos behing all revolutions right? well that ethos cannot coexist with civilization.
And that's true even if this specific murder ends up being committed by someone in another political tribe!
Now Musk says "party" which is a bad take sure, and might imply democrats. That's wrong because the politically murderous left is only a small part of democrats and mostly to the left of it.
But that something like 30% of the people that self identify as "very liberal" agree that political violence can be justified in polls is a problem.
And describing that as a problem cannot be wrong. Even if ofc a wiser person like me wouldn't have said that immediatly after Kirk murder before knowing who the killer is.
But no claiming something that is correct (even with the baddish implication) cannot be as bad as cheering for a political murder (which is never correct nor acceptable)
It might have been normal hundreds of years ago but thankfully we try to be a little more civilised now.
Are you aware of what the spanish socialist government of Sanchez (your political hero) did in Melilla 3 years ago?
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/a...
1700 attempting to enter, 37 dead, and he said that was a defense of spanish soil.
At the end of the day everyone knows that's the way to do it. We are just the only people who aren't ashamed to say it out loud.
Because of course without that massacre, it becomes several thousands per day forever, obviously.
If he had written "democrats are the party of murder" after this assassination then i would try to see what's possible to do to save ourselves from him.But "the left" can be a very different thing. I do agree the left is inherently politically violent all the times and incompatible with civil society . See the people who cheered for the murder.So those people are the "party of
You're over-looking a hell of a lot of rightwing action/rhetoric across the decades dude.
The conservatives are the rightwing faction in this liberal western country. Civil war do-over talk has been a thing our entire lives. Plus a zillion other examples
Melilla was very bad. And more bad things are happening with boats sinking in the Channel and Mediterranean. But people aren’t being shot on sight and whipped, which is the brutality you want.
I think my ideal afternoon would be sipping a spicy marg and watching some of you try to do lsat logical reasoning questions
Melilla was very bad. And more bad things are happening with boats sinking in the Channel and Mediterranean. But people aren’t being shot on sight and whipped.
If the credible policy was to shoot on sight Melilla wouldn't have happened, and less than 37 people would have died, do you realize that?
Being extremely strict in a credible way vastly reduces the actual amount of violence that you actually have to use.
Most embassies guards in most countries do have "shoot on sight" as the legitimate rule of engagement for people who try to trespass, you know that right? how many people get killed because of that every year? that's thousands of embassies worldwide.
So too is theocracy masquerading as politics.
Don't know much about him but my take is that Kirk operated more like a preacher than a political activist. Most of his policy positions only really make sense if you start from the premise of the Bible and specifically his interpretation of it. There's literally no civil justification for telling someone they shouldn't be gay.
I like this
If he had written "democrats are the party of murder" after this assassination then i would try to see what's possible to do to save ourselves from him.But "the left" can be a very different thing. I do agree the left is inherently politically violent all the times and incompatible with civil society . See the people who cheered for the murder.So those people are the "party of
So if he confirmed that what he meant by the left is the democrats, you would then agree?
And you must also agree that the people that explicitly mention Democrats should be removed from civil society, correct?
