The murder of Charlie Kirk
Can we all admit that the majority of extremism is coming from the left over the last handful of years?
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Eda is right, your exemple was the worst, and if you can't see the irony in it , no one can help you.
It would have been perfect if on purpose though.
Your rant about copycat has nothing to do with the irony of the exemple you chose. (that being said , I don't think you knew about harrison).
And even aside from the Harrison attack, a key piece of evidence read in the trial of the guy that shot Reagan
John Hinckley spoke this to his tape recorder:
John Lennon is dead. The world is over. Forget it. It's just gonna be insanity, if I even make it through the first few days. . . . I still regret having to go on with 1981 ... I don't know why people wanna live.
John Lennon is dead. . . . I still think-I still think about Jodie all the time. That's all I think about really. That, and John Lennon's death. They were sorta binded together. . . .
It really is hard to try to come up with worse example of a murder not inspiring other "random psychos" to do violence than John Lennon's. Like saying listening to rock music doesn't cause violence- Exhibit A: The White Album.
https://apnews.com/article/charlie-kirk-...
Shooter from the left, was dating a transitioning male to female. Unclear if that was part of the motive and the individual is cooperating with authorities and is believed to have had no prior knowledge of the attack.
bruh
“There clearly was a leftist ideology,” Cox said on NBC’s “Meet the Press,” citing interviews with Robinson’s relatives and acquaintances. “Friends have confirmed that there was kind of that deep, dark internet, the Reddit culture, and these other dark places of the internet where this person was going deep.”
Ah yes the dark corner of the internet… reddit
I obviously know that wasn't his point. I was just trying to see if there was some conclusion that he thought flowed from his "premise."
I mean, I’m able to agree that media is a contributing factor to the potential motivation of already susceptible individuals who were already predisposed to criminality. But that’s a very different claim than some people celebrating will automatically create leftie copycats. I just can’t let it go…
ok so now that mainstream, leftist sources like AP confirmed it, can we put to the record that the assassin was a leftist homosexual who dated a person who was attempting transition?
or the "experts" at the ADL will still list this as right-wing political violence?
And even aside from the Harrison attack, a key piece of evidence read in the trial of the guy that shot Reagan
It really is hard to try to come up with worse example of a murder not inspiring other "random psychos" to do violence than John Lennon's. Like saying listening to rock music doesn't cause violence- Exhibit A: The White Album.
Wouldn't surprise me at all if Maxwell's Silver Hammer at least indirectly lead to the murder of dozens of teachers.
It's easier for me to remember the alphabet than remember an acronym that I don't even remember what each letter stands for.
Much too long of an acronym for one that doesn't even spell a word.
I always liked HOMES to remember the Great Lakes.
addendum: And what [strike]bozo[/strike] expert thought putting a '+' in an acronym was a good idea?
Well, at least you're not denying mocking them like the last time you got all indignant days after the incident when it was brought up. So, progress...?
ok so now that mainstream, leftist sources like AP confirmed it, can we put to the record that the assassin was a leftist homosexual who dated a person who was attempting transition?
or the "experts" at the ADL will still list this as right-wing political violence?
Not when the people giving the news are evil and incompetent like Kash
Yeah, we will not be agreeing on this one. Kirk is another attempt to push and maintain the status quo of old school conservative takes. Nick formed more in itself.If i had to guess to what happens in the future, id say that alot of people are going to wonder why all these loons are attaching themselves to Nick now when it was mostly already the case and just becoming expose
Kirk was like an astroturf creation. He was somebody's boy. He was like a kid they found with broadcasting type talent who they were using to try to convert college kids. Only problem was his real fanbase was a lot older. Fuentes, on the other hand, has genuine resentment towards the establishment, not acceptance by it like Kirk. Fuentes is one of this legion of guys who in the 60s, or at some point backward in time in this country, would be assured higher status positions just for being WASPs but now they are being forced into market competition with those they feel are beneath them. Of course they are losing that competition because white supremacy is a fallacious ideology. Fuentes is scooping up all such dudes. They are all low talent dummies who think they are entitled to so much more. And while their beef is ridiculous in it's substance, it is very real to them and there and enough of them and enough alignment with traditional movement conservatism to be, in your words, dangerous.
being pro or against isreal isn't a "redicolous beef in substance", it's one of the major political questions of our time (and all the decent people pick Israel without ifs and buts ofc).
fuentes isn't only anti Israel though, he is an holocaust denier and a believer in Jewish conspiracies about 9/11 and much more.
and he is making millions per year so I don't think he is doing worse than he would have done in the 60s
I mean, I’m able to agree that media is a contributing factor to the potential motivation of already susceptible individuals who were already predisposed to criminality. But that’s a very different claim than some people celebrating will automatically create leftie copycats. I just can’t let it go…
We can say with 100% certainty that it won't automatically create copycats
Whether it incrementally increases the likelihood of copycats is empirically untestable.
I was accepting the premise of an incremental increase solely to test what, if anything, he thought flowed from the premise.
ok so now that mainstream, leftist sources like AP confirmed it, can we put to the record that the assassin was a leftist homosexual who dated a person who was attempting transition?
or the "experts" at the ADL will still list this as right-wing political violence?
What they’re reporting at this point may be true, but I can’t take what they’re saying as fact due to the very obvious prioritization of speed over accuracy that’s occurred throughout this Charlie Kirk media cycle. They’ve intentionally allowed rumors and speculation to fill the void before official statements were made available, and it hasn’t been a great look IMHO. As far as I’m concerned, we don’t know jackshit until the FBI tells us.
What they’re reporting at this point may be true, but I can’t take what they’re saying as fact due to the very obvious prioritization of speed over accuracy that’s occurred throughout this Charlie Kirk media cycle. They’ve intentionally allowed rumors and speculation to fill the void before official statements were made available, and it hasn’t been a great look IMHO. As far as
according to checkraise we can't trust the FBI.
Sounds like the kid was radicalized online. As I said before, people don’t realize how easily and quickly online platforms can indoctrinate people. Twitter, Reddit and YouTube are more than enough, it doesn’t require any deep, dark part of the web. If they’re on TikTok or active in weird discord communities it’s probably even worse though.
LOL at calling the AP leftist. It's about as plain vanilla as it gets.
apparently they had a charlie Kirk in memoriam march in south Korea today
We can say with 100% certainty that it won't automatically create copycats
Whether it incrementally increases the likelihood of copycats is empirically untestable.
I was accepting the premise of an incremental increase solely to test what, if anything, he thought flowed from the premise.
Did you not see his follow up post to his premise? It actually gave me a TBI…
i mean the celebration --> copycat thing is kind of true, just not in the way a lot of you ppl think
Sigh
Ok 🙄
AP is slightly to the left of the media landscape, and the middle of the landscape is already leftist.
https://adfontesmedia.com/ap-bias-and-re...
when you ask people, half of the people believe AP is on the center, half that it is left leaning.
