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I can only imagine myself posting something and than being asked for some examples and saying well I was driving and can’t find them and saying o think one was something like this

How much NPR have you heard? Any examples?

fair enough, but they were just a series of quick hits that each deserved their own "wow did he really say that" to the point where the content of what he actually said was soon forgotten and replaced with "wow he really said that"

Here is a simple question then: Can a person be of Italian ethnicity if you don't think they are?

is that a "normative" can or what? italian ethnicity doesn't actually exist (i use ethnicity to mean race btw), as for nationality , the topic discussed above (distinct from technicaly citizenship), anyone can "feel" whatever he wants, i suppose at the end it should be about what people in that country think (same as what the meaning of a word in a language is).

just go by what nonna would say. in other words, your usual standard

Sadly that is how the media does it on both sides and had you convinced that he has said many vulgar things. Sadly when the likes of Stephen King with his mass following does the same thing it spreads .

Sadly the media (leftist) media needs to take some account for his death

Some judges are the literal enemies of the people

He committed one murder, of a non-famous, non-political person, and he didn't do so in a manner that particularly endangered the lives of others.

I think it is silly to consider him to be a terrorist. Of course I still think he should be forever removed from society by execution or life in prison, as should anyone who murders (apart from rare cases of the victim having been an abuser of the killer).

No objective to threaten, intimidate or coherce other CEO and decision makers in the healthcare space sure. "only to draw attention" jfc

These damn maga low IQ truthers in check notes California just react to incentives

If you consider this to be terrorism, then basically any murder of someone not personally known by the killer would be terrorism. Certainly any murder, attempted murder, or attack of a political figure would have to be.

But generally political assassins are not charged with terrorism, and I haven't seen it mentioned that the guy who killed Charlie Kirk will be charged with terrorism.

Nutty people on the left sometimes believe the same things as nutty people on the right. Until the last few years, vaccine skepticism wasn't considered to be a political issue. Secretary Kennedy was a Democrat until very recently.

Bro you realize CA is a huge state with tens of millions of Trump supporters right?

chillrob - you need to rememer, The Colonel always defines words in a way that best suits his narrative.

no you can murder someone you don't know to rob him, or because he tried to hit your girlfriend in a bar and so on.

but any *public murder* of someone to "send a message" to others is straightforward terrorism.

a political motivated murder can be terrorism or not basically depending on the personal motives of the murder.

for mangione we knew he had a "systemic beef" with the whole healthcare system. he took out Thompson as a member of a group he thought should all be assassinated.

for Robinson at the time of the indictment motives weren't 100% clear (they are getting clearer now) and it could have been a personal beef.

if Robinson had a manifesto with clear "anti maga " intentions terrorism would be plausible for him as well

i am using the definition under the NYS statute.

you don't agree that Mangione murdered to threaten other top management in private healthcare?

sure the famous 2010 trump campaign against vaccines

No, we won’t, and we will not let some rando mormon who took matters into his own hands let the right intimidate us into shutting up about people who want to repeal the civil rights act, overturn elections, and call for the execution of the sitting president. Sorry not sorry.

Pretty sure all those crunchy moms became Qanoners and the like. We even have maga vegans.

btw to be clear that prosecutor I agree with is a democrat (Bragg), and he thought terrorism would apply to Mangione, the judge denying terrorism applies is a republican appointed one (Gregory Carro, appointed by Pataki)

that people believed the vegan shaman in jan6 was maga or in any meaningful sense rightwing in any way was basically what radicalized me on that topic

lol why do you guys keep playing this game? they’re totally happy to welcome the crazies into their movement so they can gain the 2-5% of the vote that most politicians don’t want. they had a ****ing porn star speak at the rnc so they could take the crazy vote. that IS maga. that’s the low iq conspiritard vote.

pornstar isn't social conservative but can be right-wing (freedom is right-wing coded). especially on the libertarian leaning right-wing side (only fan models tax evading is very right-wing).

veganism is one of the most leftist coded things that ever existed. shamanism is close to that.

anyway fact is that vax rates for measles decreasing in California before a serious outbreak and then jumping back up show how 1) this started well before the public health "experts" disaster with COVID vax mandates 2), this is fixable when people get real proof that vaccinations help their own kids (in measles case, real proof that disease is still a threat) 3) it's not about republicans. the problem would exist regardless in the same way.

so there is nothing to worry about, the problem is self-fixing, lower rates cause more outbreaks that cause higher rates and only those who don't get is suffer from it. not a matter for public intervention, it's good if people pay the price of their choices