Best response to a reg's 10x pf 3bets?

I'm guessing your point is that our assumption here is that OP has a tell, and that V is going to play defensively when we flat, because it looks like we're trapping.

From Sub: "vs this very polar range we can play jams and small 4b or just jams i guess, not much flatting. the flats are centered around strong suited broadways that dominate his polar hands, and some strong pairs we dont want to jam (think 99-jj at some freq) and we more or less pure trap aa here."

I believe the above was in reference to a BTN open facing BB 3B scenario.

Are we just assuming that OP has a tell and V is only doing this when he sees it? If that's the assumption, then I'd think the most important adjustment is eliminating the tell.

If we don't assume OP has a tell, and this 10x 3B is just something V does, then I'd think V would have a hard time continuing if we have a fairly narrow flatting range of 99-JJ, AA, and some strong suited Broadway combos, complemented by a mix of 4B jams, small 4B's, and folds.

When we flat, if V wants to proceed as if we always have XX, whether he thinks that's AA, or he thinks it's some combos that are not AA, or some other specific combo or narrow range of combos, how is that bad for us? Seems to me that we're back to just playing poker, albeit with an insanely bloated pot, yet now in position, with a range that can withstand some heat.

If V is 3Bing 10x, I'd think it wouldn't take very many iterations of him getting stacked for him to either go broke and leave the game or simply stop using 10x as his 3B size.

Just tighten up. Don't call.

Very nice response

How about IP with AA - do you call, 4bet less than 1200, or jam?

Doc, we are assuming V has spotted a tell because H has said a couple times it’s only him getting raised.

Jam. V might think it’s a “I finally got AK/77 and I will not get pushed around any more!” raise, and call.

i mean whats more likely

v is a reg who has decided to employ a strategy advocated literally nowhere attacking your early opens with a size thats incredibly inefficient and really can't mathematically work while not doing it vs anyone else in the pool, or you are accidentally giving something off? lol

or i guess somehow misreported and they were squeezes

We can't have it both ways, either the reg is somewhat competent and therefore doesn't use terrible strats, or they're not competent as evidenced by their use of a terrible strat.

Assuming the facts as reported are accurate, they're clearly responding to something about OP, but whether or not that thing is a legitimate poker-based read is unknowable.

ok but he doesn't do it vs anyone else and thus far it's had 100% success rate. i dont want to have it both ways, i am pretty sure op has a sizing tell lol

Thanks. I must have overlooked that detail.

I do wonder if it's specifically some tell, or if V has identified that OP's opening range is attackable, and / or if OP over-folds to large raises (which I suppose wouldn't be unusual for anyone).

Regardless, I still think the first step should be eliminating the tell, and then possibly having a mixed strat that will make it harder for V to do this.

Assuming about 30 hands per hour and you're raising about 15% of the time, you've raised 27 times and he 3bet 4 times. That doesn't seem too extreme. If true, your raising range is the same as his 3bet range. Time to 4 bet the top half of your range.

Of course if these numbers are off, you can adjust your strategy appropriately. If you're raising less, you want to 4 bet more. If more, then he is exploiting your range slightly. You can either tighten up or accept he's going to 3 bet once in a while.

Flatting AQo and 88 and stuff against this sizing is pretty terrible

If every time he's done this you had a hand that can't continue vs a big bet, I'd bet money that it's a live tell.
The implication of this too is that he's never doing this when you have a hand that can continue, so you probably have two different live tells that he's picking up on.

I have a hard time believing V is sharp given a 10x raise size. Anyone on the rest of the table can wake up with a hand and you just torched 50 BBs or whatever.

If he had a sizing tell why not go 4-6X which should still get the job done vs mediocre hands.

Thinking he'll fold KK is certainly optimistic.....

He 3 bets everyone else to a more normal size?

we have to determine if he's just 3betting tight or light. If he's 3betting light then you need to tighten up to hands that can 4bet, and in this scenario 4bet jam. Hands like AJo, 99+, KQs.

If he's 3betting tight then just fold to all of his 3bets besides QQ+.

Definitely dont start calling.

Since it's unlikely youre going to see many showdowns with him your assessment of his 3bet range is going to be based upon frequency. Basically if you detect he's out of line, such as having 3bet you 4x in a row now then you have defined his range to be light and can begin with the aforementioned adjustments.

However if the 3bets, albeit large, are only happening a few times over the span of an 8 hour session then he could just be running hot against you and choosing this size trying to capitalize on his percevied aggro image when in reality you're just getting supremely unlucky running into AA over and over. He'll probably get tired of squandering these types of hands eventually so take notice if he stops doing it.