Israel/Palestine thread

Israel/Palestine thread

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Discuss my fellow 2+2ers..

AM YISRAEL CHAI.

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07 October 2023 at 09:33 PM
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UK, Canada and Australia recognise Palestine.


Israel slaughtered 3 American children today. however, I dont think this feast of blood will sate them.



What does this even mean in the real world?

Half of "Palestine" is controlled by a terrorist organization all these nations are indirectly helping prop up. And for all their anti-Hamas rhetoric, talk is cheap, and none of these nations will do a single thing to help get rid of Hamas.

And there are 500,000+ Israeli's living in the other half of so-called Palestine, who would have to be ethnically cleansed for such a state to form, as the PA has emphatically stated there is no place for Jews in their state.

At this point Israel should just say **** It and let Hamas stay in power. If the rest of the world is just going to make them do all the dirty work and get their soldiers killed, and then try to jump in and say they are anti-Hamas. If France, Britain and Canada are gong to create a Palestinian state with no Hamas, let them send in their soldiers to die for the cause (which obviously is never happening).


its just meaningless cover to continue the genocide. dont get too upset about it, this is the sort of duplicitous **** that you should love. most of these countries will continue to send bombs and drones and intelligence to Israel so they can continue to feed on the blood of Untermensch children in the pursuit of their Supremacist ehnostate.


Just a reminder we have all spent the last 2 years being told Israel was doing this, with there never being any actual proof. Just so-called testimony.

And yet there is numerous videos of Hamas/Palestinians doing stuff like this (in this case street executions), and it the response of the world is a giant yawn, and promise of a state that would require ethnic cleansing of hundreds of thousands of Jews.


by Dunyain

Just a reminder we have all spent the last 2 years being told Israel was doing this, with there never being any actual proof. Just so-called testimony.And yet there is numerous videos of Hamas/Palestinians doing stuff like this (in this case street executions), and it the response of the world is a giant yawn, and promise of a state that would require ethnic cleansing of hundr

your embed doesnt work. Elon might be censoring it. post the full link and I will be happy to lol at it.


Ill help you out

https://x.com/i/web/status/1969880681053...

its too bad there isnt a court of law left in Gaza to properly try traitors.


by Victor

Israel slaughtered 3 American children today. however, I dont think this feast of blood will sate them.

both of the little boys were beheaded. unlike the Jewish state's claims, theres pictures of it. remember that its antisemitic to criticize beheading babies.


I support the 2 state solution.

As such, I will vote for Yair Golan.


No context. Just political propaganda


by Dunyain

What does this even mean in the real world?

PR.

Plus insurance against the remote possibility of war crime charges ever being brought (they won’t of course).


by IMBLUEtheONE

I support the 2 state solution.

As such, I will vote for Yair Golan.

Do you support Israeli withdrawal from Area C in the West Bank? Because if that's not included, you don't really support a Palestinian state.


Gaza Health Ministry death statistics are accurate.

From Haaretz:

Ten days ago, former army Chief of Staff Herzl Halevi visited Moshav Ein HaBesor, a Gaza border community, for a discussion with its residents.

Halevi tried to apologize for and explain the IDF's failures on October 7, and then went on to say, "There are 2.2 million people in Gaza, and more than 10 percent of them have been killed or wounded. It's not a gentle war."

It wasn't the first time that an Israeli leader has more or less confirmed the figures reported by the Hamas-run Gaza Health Ministry.

It should be noted that the ministry doesn't just publish headline numbers, but backs them up with detailed lists that include the full name (including those of the father and grandfather) and identity card number of the deceased.

The ID numbers are issued by Israel. Thus, if the Israeli government thought the lists were unreliable, the Gaza Health Ministry gave it the tools to refute them. The fact that Israel gave up trying to refute the figures testifies to their reliability.

So if you only accept the word of Israelis, there you have it.


by jalfrezi

PR.

Plus insurance against the remote possibility of war crime charges ever being brought (they won’t of course).

It is going to be awesome if/when the “nation of Palestine” sues Britain for reparations as Abbas has promised to do.

Britain’s slow moving self immolation to attempt to appease all the third worlders (many of whom live in Britain) who hate it and want to destroy it is really something to behold.


by Dunyain

It is going to be awesome if/when the “nation of Palestine” sues Britain for reparations as Abbas has promised to do.

Not actually true. It's a bit of made-up far-right derp dating from 2016.

At the Nouakchott summit, Palestinian Foreign Minister Riad Malki explained: "Almost a century has passed since 1917(... ) We are working to open up an international criminal case for the crime which they committed against our nation – from the days of the British Mandate all the way to the massacre which was carried out against us from 1948 onwards.” Later in the week, this was scaled down to the request for a formal UK apology to the Palestinians.

Note, ' Later in the week, this was scaled down to the request for a formal UK apology to the Palestinians.' And they're not even going to get that, not after the Arab revolt of the late 1930s, despite which Britain still argued their cause, incurring extremely nasty terrorist reprisals by the Zionists.


So the "very smart" recognition of the state of palestine by the UK, was answered by "palestinians" with "thank you, now we are suing you for 2 trillions"?


the first clip is exactly what I have been saying. the point of all of this killing is for the Arabs to submit to Supreme authority of the Westerners and Jews. Western and Zionist ideology necessitates conquest and oppression.


by Luciom

So the "very smart" recognition of the state of palestine by the UK, was answered by "palestinians" with "thank you, now we are suing you for 2 trillions"?

No.


by 57 On Red

Not actually true. It's a bit of made-up far-right derp dating from 2016.

Note, ' Later in the week, this was scaled down to the request for a formal UK apology to the Palestinians.' And they're not even going to get that, not after the Arab revolt of the late 1930s, despite

At this time period the Zionists were the Palestinians, as this was a label Jews generally recognized and Arabs rejected.

That being said, Britain's general attitude towards the Arabs at this point was to be conciliatory and overlook horrible behavior, so as to cultivate relationships that gave them access to Gulf fossil fuels.

At this point other than suicidal empathy there is no reason anyone should entertain reparations for Palestinians. There is no sane geopolitical or moral reason to do so. If anything Palestinians owe everyone else in the region an apology for horrible, violent, antisocial behavior.


That being said the position of the current British elite is one of suicidal empathy towards its internal and external enemies who want to humiliate and destroy Britain.

So it would not be a shock at all if they agreed to continue extremely generous aid/reparations they receive no thanks for; that will continue to be abused and misallocated for violent, antisocial purposes.


by Dunyain

At this time period the Zionists were the Palestinians, as this was a label Jews generally recognized and Arabs rejected.

This argument does not appear to make sense.


by 57 On Red

This argument does not appear to make sense.

And yet:



Well that's good isn't it? They can have a one state solution as they're all Palestinians.



by jalfrezi

Well that's good isn't it? They can have a one state solution as they're all Palestinians.

Well, except for the newly formed Palestinian identity is very much a religious ethnonationalist project, that emphatically states no Jews allowed (very unlike Israel which has millions of non Jews as full citizens). Even forming the "Palestinian State" with the borders Britain/France/Canada/UAE/Saudi insist on would necessitate ethnic cleansing of hundreds of thousands of Jews.

And again, this highlights how countries like Britain, France and Canada are morally bankrupt and indifferent towards horrible behavior and views by Arabs when it aligns with their geopolitical interests. And it has been this way since the discovery of fossil fuels in the early 20th century.

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