[BetRivers] Official Thread

thanks man

Is there any plans on increasing the cap on the number of hands we can download? 1000 seems a little small. With 3 downloads that is only 3k hands a day.

Holy hell this rake back system is confusing. Trying to make sense of it all, but it may take awhile. Seems like a good site though. The ease of software with the emotive avatars make it fun.

If xnbomb's 10,000 points for the $150 is the best deal or at least close to it then 10,000 / 150 = 66.6 points per dollar. I get 15 points for every dollar raked in bonus rewards. That is about 15/66.6 22.5 cents per dollar or 22.5% rake back. I was trying to figure out where this supposed amazing deal everyone is talking about with insane rakeback when I finally found the page that talks about boosts. (I forgot how I found it, but I did, and can't figure out how to navigate my way back to it). Fortunately I did find it though and this is the great thing about it all.

This means at each corresponding level you get x amount of rakeback:
Lvl 0: 45.0%
Lvl 1: 45.0%
Lvl 2: 45.0%
Lvl 3: 50.6%
Lvl 4: 56.3%
Lvl 5: 61.9%
Lvl 6: 67.5%
Lvl 7: 73.1%
Lvl 8: 78.8%
Lvl 9: 78.8%

I found in Loyalty level overview under the terms and conditions the required points to reach the levels.

I may have gotten some of my calculations wrong, because I'm still trying to make sense of this rakeback system, but it seems pretty decent if I'm correct, especially if you put in the time to get the loyalty points.

Just now discovered the rewards tab gives a breakdown on the 3 point systems being kept track of. Although they don't really mention the iRush rewards thingy so now I'm wondering if that is even a thing or you have to play during a certain time period.

I was going into posting this as being a guide to understand it all, but now I'm about as lost as when I started lol, oh well. I'll figure it out eventually.

Those rakeback numbers are close but a little off. Can only use the 10k pts for $150 in the bonus store if you have loyalty level 7 or higher (>$6250 raked in a calendar year). Level 4 unlocks 3.5k pts for $50 and I believe 1.5k pts for $20 can be used at any level.

Lvl 0-2: 40% (30 pts per $1 rake, $20 for 1.5k pts used in bonus store)
Lvl 3: 45% (33.75 pts per $1, $20 for 1.5k pts)
Lvl 4: 53.5% (37.5 pts per $1, $50 for 3.5k pts)
Lvl 5: 58.9% (41.25 pts per $1, $50 for 3.5k pts)
Lvl 6: 64.3% (45 pts per $1, $50 for 3.5k pts)
Lvl 7: 73.1% (48.75 pts per $1, $150 for 10k pts)
Lvl 8-9: 78.7% (52.5 pts per $1, $150 for 10k pts)

Also gotta take into account how much is lost when clearing the bonus through casino games (-1.24% for betting on player side in baccarat) and loyalty level resets at end of every year.

Does anyone have a date for Nj launch?

NEVER

Also, can confirm 73% at LVL 7

Pretty gross that you guys get 3x than me when it an hour drive away

I heard late November but probably gonna get pushed back I would imagine

Why would you bet player side? I believe for banker the edge is -1.06%. Also, do ties count as clearing the bonus?

Blackjack could be better, but I also would have to monkey with having enough money to split and double. Also they aren't as super clear on the rules since they can vary per game. I believe Baccarat is somewhat universal in the rules. I'd prefer to just bet the bonus in one swoop and hope I get lucky rather than multiple bets.

So if your level 7 and playing during the witching hour promo from midnight to 3am ($1 bonus for every $5 raked or additional 20 percent rb) your essentially playing rake free poker online in 2025.

Absolutely insane and hats off to the team at BetRivers…hopefully this also makes competitors rake/bonuses more competitive as well.

I did the math and realized that the 15x playthroughs were actually a better deal, but I mistakenly missed the fact that those bonuses have to be released through slots only. So don't make the same mistake I did! Fortunately, I did a test bonus purchase for the lowest one. I had to play $300 to release $20. Figured the slot machine was only about 5% house edge which would be a $5 EV play. I clicked on some dragon slot machine and... it did not go well. I did 15 spins of $20 and lost all of them and won like 2 and ended up down $270ish dollars. It may have been worse than a 5% house edge, perhaps it would have been better to just let the bonus expire. I suppose I let the sunk cost fallacy get to me since I already spent the bonus points and didn't know the house advantage. I was getting pretty pissed off, because the dragon's crystal ball thingy started glowing up every time I lost and I kept wondering if I won something. Oh well, slots suck.

I did the 1x playthrough bonus and was able to play blackjack 1 deck which I feel has a great house edge of around 0.21%ish. This should outperform the baccarat although you will need to know basic strategy for blackjack or at least have a chart available. I plugged in the game rules into Wizard of Odds and got the following:

If you play blackjack in one hand you don't have the opportunity to double or split without going over budget if you want to play the bonus in one hand. Since you can't double after splitting you only need to wager 1/2 the bonus amount per hand.

In the 1 deck game you can play 3 hands at a time. Playing more hands can give an edge as well. A positive running count of 3 makes buying insurance on a dealer ace a good idea. More cards give more information. The seat to the left gets to act last giving it a slight edge over the other hands because you have more room for making positive deviations (such as standing on 16 vs a dealer 10 with a positive count). I tried to put 10 cents in the middle seat and right seat to maximize the slight edge of the leftmost seat, but the biggest bet cannot exceed 5 times the lowest bet of another seat according to the rules. So I've come up with a strategy that I really like to clear bonuses with this game. Just guessing, you probably could get the house edge down to the point high teens.

Get the basic strategy for this game on the wizard of odds website and also get a chart of the illustrious 18 for deviations. Take your bonus amount you need to clear and take 5/14 of that and put it in the left most seat. Put 1/14 in the middle and 1/14 in the right most seat. Now you have half the bonus on the table. After playing a hand redo that step as the bonus gets lower until it is cleared.

Hopefully never 😀

BetRivers is the nuts. I think it has the most sensible software of any site I've ever played on.

Any chance I can be made a site pro?

Sry I didn't see this earlier. The two baccarat games I found took an extra 5% commission for betting on banker (I was betting on banker at first). Ties count, just gotta play it through. Yeah I'm sure blackjack is better with proper strategy, I just preferred mindlessly betting without having to think about it.

To check the $1k deposit bonus. Go to the white banner where it says "Home Games Features Promos", click on Promos which will bring you to the promotion page. There you should be able to find Poker Welcome Offer. If you click on the blue button that says "View Promotion", it will bring you to a page that shows you your total bonus, how much you have cleared, and how much you have left to clear.

Just discovered this today and thought I'd share, because I really like knowing my progress and others might too.

@KeepGLOBALfair For the witching hour I thought it was only for level 7 and beyond because I misinterpreted your post. Turns out it is for everyone and I'm super psyched about it.

I'm still only at level 3, because I've been lazy. Need to kick it in gear to get to level 7 or maybe even 8. 9 will likely be more volume than what I'm planning, but who knows. We'll see what the future may hold. 😃

Good luck with trying to get 8, but unless you're putting in 75+ hour weeks you wont get there lol

**ETA-unless higher games start running more frequently**

Yeah not going to grind that hard sheesh. I must have underestimated how easy it is to get loyalty points. I think I calculated that if I get like 30kish hands in a month I should be able to reach level 7. Level 8 would be 120kish hands. I used to do around 83k hands a month on other sites, but I don't even do that anymore. The action on this platform I imagine is a lot slower than on other sites out there, because of all the recs.

I was a bit intimidated by the anonymous poker, but ngl it is kind of growing on me. I'm a bit sad that we're coming to the last week of the leaderboard challenge, because I wanted to participate in it. Next week I'm a bit busy, but I'm not sure if I'll be able to play much on Sunday so I'll probably fall off the wagon.

I'm at 144K hands this month and will likely end up a touch under 200K. I'm aiming for level 8 next Wednesday-Friday. Two things you probably need to realize is that (1) The high stakes simply don't go off enough all day to get the kind of loyalty points needed to do it any faster, and (2) you're capped at 8 tables. Which is awesome, but also means nobody is messing with like 24 tables and doing it in 30 hours a week. Just not possible.

Also, don't quote me, but I'm guessing the leaderboard is renewed unless they made an announcement I missed. I think for regulatory reasons, they only have it "promoted" for a couple weeks at a time.

anyone get a freeroll ticket yesterday, that expires tomorrow. Im not sure how I got that, plus there no freerolls in the tourn area to use it?

Got one too. You've probably got a filter on, though, as there's 3 starting in the next 6 hours

How do you track the hands you have played? As far as I know holdemmanager or hand2note do not work yet.

holdem manager works. Just have to download the hands. Obviously you cant use the HUD tho

Your right had the filter on, good call.

This could be something wrong on my end, but the audio cues sometimes stop happening and I'm playing the game silent which actually is a bit tougher, because it is easier to time out. The speakers on my laptop are a bit ass though so it could just be my computer.

A couple of times I'll click a button and nothing will happen and then it will force me to time out and either auto check or auto fold. This has normally happened when I've clicked the fold button. However, today this happened when I clicked the call button. I was forced to fold two pair in a HU pot on the river because I could not click anything. Hopefully this is a one off fluke, because if this continues to happen I can't see myself continuing to play at BetRivers. I just can't have that be happening while I'm playing. Has anyone else experienced this bug? It is pretty game breaking if it continues.

My ego got checked today. I essentially climbed from a $1k deposit to $5.6k with a 14.5ish BB winrate at like 10k hands, but today and yesterday 100NL just got a lot harder for no good reason. I was expecting Halloween and Halloween eve to be pretty soft since it is a holiday, but for whatever reason I got my ass kicked. I'm guessing all the normal people are probably going trick or treating with their kids. Maybe I'm just running bad, but god it feels pretty awful. Feels like everyone has become clairvoyant. Every time I 3bet JJ or QQ and flop comes A62 they want to go to war, but when I have TT and flop is T73 all of a sudden they snap fold.

To top it off, I almost lost every hand of bonus money in black jack. It is as if Satan himself was laughing at me.

Happy Halloween everyone!

cash still all 6max?