The "LOLCANADA" thread...again

Correct. Well not exactly zero. But the cumulative effect of years of increases in carbon tax all taken off in a single month resulted in a very modest one-time change in inflation and otherwise the effect of the carbon tax was a largely negligible component of inflation over the last 5 years, barely noticeable and absolutely dwarfed by many other factors. In contrast, Poilievre endlessly positioned it as the be all and end all. And outside of BC, any tiny effect it did have was more than made up for by the now removed rebates.

Ok. It was a very close 2-party race in the last election. It's pretty hard to win 5 elections in a row, so the betting favourite gotta be a change of government. Even if the liberals win a 5th time, the ideas and messaging of Poilievre obviously matters a tonne. Saying he is basically irrelevant is just inept.

I get that you are mad Poilievre isn't the far right authoritarian you hope he would be and probably you'd be a Bernier Bro or something. But just because someone isn't who you want them to be doesn't make them irrelevant for the half the country that voted for him.

So what your saying is the carbon tax was largely negligible unlike its effect on climate change which was zero

If 1 policy doesn’t do much , we shouldn’t do nothing at all …
We will end up in a better place .

I'm saying - as economists did - as pretty much everyone did but for poilievre, that the effect on inflation was negligible. We have now been proven correct. None of poilievre predictions of what would happen if was removed happened. You don't have to lie on his behalf anymore.

When something is REBATE=0.9*TAX you should always expect this to not make a massive fiscal difference.

That's completely separate from any other analysis about climate change, and yes your stupid point that Canadian emissions alone don't solve a global problem is still as stupid and pointless as it ever was.

If a policy has no effect why do it ?

What better place will we end up in ?

It’s funny Uke wax the biggest Trudeau fan and even though Carney keeps scrapping his policies he is still a liberal supporter

He lost his own riding for crying out loud. A win handed to him on a platter because most of the country was sick of Trudeau and he still couldn’t win.

I’m not far right btw. I’m centre mid and fiscally conservative. The left has some good ideas the right has some good ideas but for the most part most politicians are corrupt shitbags.

Pierre isn’t the answer and no I’m not a Bernier bro.

Because just like most boomers he doesn’t actually care about policies. He bought his 3 bedroom in the 70s for $125 and now it’s worth 1.5m and his future is set. **** that kids can’t find jobs today or afford rent as long as he’s good.

You’re not wrong and I am the same politically I use to be left but Trudeau drove me to the conservatives. I also believe Pierre should not be the leader . You do not get a do over

If you guys claim to be "center mid" or whatever the **** you should LOVE Carney. He cut income taxes, cut carbon taxes, cut capital gains taxes, cut GST taxes, austerity and cuts across the government, cutting canada post, and focusing on investing in thigns that help big business.

Is this a bit? I'm not remotely close to being a boomer ffs. Is this boomer stuff because I said I have a ****ing 3 year old and you just don't understand how math works?

I did say the left has some good ideas didn’t I? I don’t LOVE Carney but I certainly don’t think he's been bad so far.

I can give props when props are due and he’s certainly earned some props.

We don’t always have to fight, you know that right?

Aren' you the guy that just said this:

Not my fault you’re a boomer.

Lot of policies do not solved big problems by itself .
It need to be supported by other policies , need to be enforced by legal force or other external help .

And again u still claim it has no effect while other experts says the opposite so I’ll stop there and thinking experts knows more about this then you shrug .

And that’s why I compliment the policies he has put in place I like and complimented him on bringing back Harper’s policy on Canada post
Your the one who should not like him because he canceled so many Justin’s policies

What a bizarre insult attempt. Surely you can find a better bit than this? A good rage bait on the internet should at least have some kernel of truth to it.

Even our climate expert Uke knows the carbon tax will have zero effect on climate change .
It’s a plural responsibility to him

If all countries did , it would .

But again , if u expect Canada to implement only policies ithatc could change climate change by themselves , then you are just advocating to do nothing .

oh lozen. You're so cute. However many years in and you still - hilariously - believe "but but but Canada can't solve climate change all by itself so why do anything ever?" is a good talking point for you to repeat ad nauseum. This whole like "will have zero effect on climate change" is probably the most frequently made point you make. It isn't half as good as you think it is.

Let's try a month where you manage to not say that again.

If you guys keep arguing the carbon tax is a good thing I’ll argue my side
The carbon tax is nothing more than income redistribution

You're not arguing a "side". This moronic talking point that Canada or any other small country can't solve global warming all on its own is both trivially true and utterly irrelevant to the question of whether we should do our part. Young kids gets the idea that people have to work together to solve big problems. This shouldn't have to be explained to you. You've got a just really, really bad talking point and can't seem to let go.

While the primary effect of course is reducing emissions, yes the secondary effect is income redistribution. Rich people (who tend to use lots of carbon) pay more and poor people (who tend to use little carbon) win. Sorry, why is redistributing from the rich to the poor a bad thing again?

If only you treated Canada’s debt the same way you treat climate change . One of them we can control

Lol ignores the post just whataboutisms, as usual.

Buddy, I supported the revenue neutral , market based approach to climate change. It's the cheap one! All the others like say direct subsidies or whatever are all much more expensive and usually more disruptive to free markets. You can't just throw out "but what about the debt" when debating a revenue neutral policy ffs.