Israel/Palestine thread

Israel/Palestine thread

Think this merits its own thread...

Discuss my fellow 2+2ers..

AM YISRAEL CHAI.

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07 October 2023 at 09:33 PM
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by Pompeous

Candace Owen's YouTube has gone from 3.2 million subscribers to 5.3 million subscribers since Trump got elected. There's a reason she streams anti-Israel content pretty much ever day (and gets over half of her subscribers to watch... a massive percentage): because that's what a growing contingent of right wingers want to see. Do you see how running on America First, and acting

Yes. I think your worldview is insane and you have been watching too much Candace Owens YouTube.

I have no clue how much the increase in audience of people like Candace Owens and Tucker is real and how much is foreign bots. And I have no clue how the rampant online antisemitism on social media will translate at the ballot box. And whether empowering a bunch of low value antisemitic conspiracy theorists is going to improve America's fortunes. I personally have my doubts, but time will tell I guess.


by IMBLUEtheONE

Two Jews were murdered in Manchester, just because they are Jews. Of course you didn't link to that.

You are the definition of scum, who thinks life is a football game, that you have to like one side. Zero empathy for Jews. Total indifference.

Regarding my post, only a complete idiot sees the facts and convinces himself that they are irrelevant to the real story

Mosques and Muslim centres have been attacked too. Funny how you don't hear about it and if you did you said nothing.

eg Finsbury Park attack which killed one Muslim.


by IMBLUEtheONE

Learn to use google

right google tells me there has been no confirmed motive for the attack and that one of the victims was shot by the police. so you posted 2 pieces of misinformation in your post.


by jalfrezi

Mosques and Muslim centres have been attacked too. Funny how you don't hear about it and if you did you said nothing.

eg Finsbury Park attack which killed one Muslim.

So your comeback is whataboutism?

And bringing an attack from 2017??

Not done by a Jew???

God you are stupid


by Victor

right google tells me there has been no confirmed motive for the attack and that one of the victims was shot by the police. so you posted 2 pieces of misinformation in your post.

No confirmed motive?

You are so dishonest it's disgusting


by IMBLUEtheONE

So your comeback is whataboutism?

And bringing an attack from 2017??

Not done by a Jew???

God you are stupid

It's not me who is the stupid one, BLUE.

Just today a mosque was set ablaze with two people still inside that police are treating as a hate crime.

Note "hate crime" not "terrorist offence" like the synagogue attack.

If this had been a synagogue it would have been front page news on every site, but because it's a mosque no MSM are even reporting it.



by IMBLUEtheONE

No confirmed motive?

You are so dishonest it's disgusting

hey man, I just asked for a cite, you went straight to insults.


It’s also interesting to wonder what Pompeus and other terminally online conspiracy theorists think is going to happen when America finally frees itself from its Jewish captors. Is it going to give rise to a new Islamo-Christo kingdom that will finally expunge Israel from the Earth?

I’m not sure what chain of events in his mind allies the racist, conspiratorial right with poor brown people across the globe.

There’s also the very tangible reality that some degree of opposition to Israel stems from general opposition to the US and its global reach. If US support for Israel wanes in the future, it is not necessarily indirectly related to support for Palestinians. There’s a very real possibility that waning US support for Israel will just see the ME conflict taking a backseat in world politics to another more US centric relationship.

It must be reassuring to log into your twitch or discord chat every day and see like-minded people who are singularly obsessed with Israel. But the reality is in the real world, the average American is thinking about 100 other things before Israel and Gaza.


by jalfrezi

It's not me who is the stupid one, BLUE.

Just today a mosque was set ablaze with two people still inside that police are treating as a hate crime.

Note "hate crime" not "terrorist offence" like the synagogue attack.

If this had been a synagogue it would have been front page news on every site, but because it's a mosque no MSM are even reporting it.

You are very stupid, but that is not the point.

Please find one jewish terror/hate crime attack against Muslims in your country.

Your counter claim against all the terror attacks against jews is to bring us unrelated attacks against Muslims from almost 10 years ago.

The fact the we all are pretending that there is no cultural problem from the Muslim community , is a insult to anyone's intelligence.


by Victor

hey man, I just asked for a cite, you went straight to insults.

I called out every crime against anyone, where ever, even if the offender is jewish/Israeli.

You are unwiillling to call out a blatant crime against 2 jewish men, that were attacked just for being jewish.

You are filth


again, theres been no confirmation on the motive of the attack.


by Victor

again, theres been no confirmation on the motive of the attack.

Worst actor ever


the motive is important because genocide supporters are trying to tie this into the Palestinian liberation movement and resistance against genocide. 2 Jews were killed (one by a policeman btw) thousands of miles away from Israeland they are using this as a reason to support the mass murder of babies in Palestine.


by IMBLUEtheONE

You are very stupid, but that is not the point.Please find one jewish terror/hate crime attack against Muslims in your country. Your counter claim against all the terror attacks against jews is to bring us unrelated attacks against Muslims from almost 10 years ago.The fact the we all are pretending that there is no cultural problem from the Muslim community , is a insult to any

Pretty hard to insult your intelligence because no one’s ever seen any evidence for it

Eg I post an example of a racist attack today against Muslims and you lie and claim I’ve only posted examples from 10 years ago.

Your claim that there is a “cultural problem” from the Muslim community here in the UK is pure Islamophobic hatred from you because 99. lots of nines percent of Muslims are moderate, peace loving and horrified by anti Semitic attacks.


by jalfrezi

Pretty hard to insult your intelligence because no one’s ever seen any evidence for itEg I post an example of a racist attack today against Muslims and you lie and claim I’ve only posted examples from 10 years ago.Your claim that there is a “cultural problem” from the Muslim community here in the UK is pure Islamophobic hatred from you because 99. lots of nines percent of Musl

its pretty incredible to make that statement about Muslims considering how prevalent support for Zionist Israel remains.


Butcher BLUE is probably missing the thrills of shooting and blowing up Muslim kids.


by Victor

the motive is important because genocide supporters are trying to tie this into the Palestinian liberation movement and resistance against genocide. 2 Jews were killed (one by a policeman btw) thousands of miles away from Israeland they are using this as a reason to support the mass murder of babies in Palestine.

Why do you think a Muslim Syrian refugee would attack a synagogue on Yom Kippur while chanting "Allah Akbar?"


by IMBLUEtheONE

Yes, I know this has been posted here 1,000 times. But every time I think about the claims on this forum against Israel, that we are nothing more than a colonialist project, that our sole purpose is to conquer more of the Middle East and dispossess Arabs, I think to myself what a glorious failure we are.If this is all we have managed in 77 years, we are probably the most faile

lol this again

There are now more young conservatives than ever who oppose funding Israel… there’s nothing to do with “colonialism”

Thank God for people like Tucker Carlson and Candace Owens.

You wanna talk about whiny left-wing cancel culture type tactics. That is precisely what the pro Netanyahu people engage in….there end game is to smear people with false accusations of racism….and it’s failing big time so there other tactic is censorship and we will see where that goes.


by jalfrezi

Butcher BLUE is probably missing the thrills of shooting and blowing up Muslim kids.

tbf, its probably easier than trying to promote weak hasbara


Idk if you read any of the news stories surrounding the Manchester incident the motive seems clear. Although maybe the Rabbi was just banging the dudes wife?


So Hamas is demanding a complete Israel withdrawal and then they want to negotiate scheduled hostage releases where they decide who is released and when. So basically their demands haven't changed at all, they reject the 20 point peace plan, and have called Trump's bluff.

Most of the time Trump makes demands and is given an FU in reply, he can just pretend it didn't happen and move on. But I just dont see it working in this case, given the emotional investment of the antisemetic left and Islamist supporters in supporting Hamas.


TACO


by IMBLUEtheONE

You are unwiillling to call out a blatant crime against 2 jewish men, that were attacked just for being jewish.

One of them was accidentally killed by police gunfire while trying to barricade the doors from the inside. The bullets came through, unfortunately. Though of course the attacker, who was actually named Jihad by his Islamist father, would have killed more people had he had the opportunity, and had the police not arrived so promptly and put an end to him. We are going to have to get more aggressive against Islamism.


by IMBLUEtheONE

I called out every crime against anyone, where ever, even if the offender is jewish/Israeli.

You are unwiillling to call out a blatant crime against 2 jewish men, that were attacked just for being jewish.

You are filth

Individual Hate motivated attacks happen all over the world involving all different types of ideologies and motivations.. And recall in the aftermath of October 7 a Palestinian American kid was brutally stabbed to death by some pro Israel guy in America.

The killing of upwards of 200,000 Palestinians is something that is a different category… according to genocide scholars and Jewish scholars It’s often motivated by Jewish supremacy, and that also would include the idea of population transfers of Palestinians out of either Israel or Gaza. That’s the gigantic blatantly obvious difference. The people currently in power in the Israeli government and military have sophisticated military technology, and very powerful entities backing them compared to some individual nutcase motivated by hatred anywhere in the world.

Jewish human right scoops like BT Selem , jewish publications like 972 mag and Haaretz have all been vehemently critical of Jewish supremacy in the Israeli gov , settlers and military. It’s kind of reminding us of the Muslims who are critical of Muslim supremacists from Al-Qaeda or ISL.

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