Gun control
I think that the Gun control thread got lost when the old politics thread got moved.
1 The rest of the world looks at the
Something something mental health?
Or something something left wing violence?
It’s those darn videogames.
Four people were killed and at least a dozen more were injured in a shooting that broke out during a homecoming celebration overnight in Leland, Mississippi, according to multiple news reports.
The shooting broke out after a homecoming football game at Leland High School, Mayor John Lee confirmed to CBS News and The New York Times. After the game, people gathered away from campus near the city's Main Street, where shots were fired, Lee told the Times.
Just the price of freedom
Thoughts and prayers, now is not the time to politicize this.
fair enough.
but just adding repressive means to a population that cant have much opportunities to get out of poverty wont solve
Like they say, guns don't kill people; socio-economic conditions do.
I get the point that the opportunities are out there, and yeah, a lot of people 'could' make it if they had the right advice and stuck to it. Problem is, most don't and you can't really mass-produce good guidance or motivation.
We're doing well enough as a society that people shouldn't be getting thrown out before they even reach first base.
I think that ubi is about the only realistic way of addressing this issue. And aside from just the money, for a lot of those kids just knowing if when they turn 18 they get the check would give them the hope they lack.
The gun 2a issue here is a multi generational deal, not a 51% issue.
Another day, another mass shooting.
I thought more guns = safer environment.
And yet mass gun shooting just keep increasing with more death shrug .
Surely it isn’t the number of guns available .
It’s like the trickle down economy, u got 40-50 years of data of failure ….
Nah, tax cuts for the top helps the most the people at the bottom even if decades of data says the contrary .
Ps: they should taxed the hell out of guns.
Wouldn’t go against the second amendment .
There are already so many guns that wouldn't help. It's bullets that should be heavily taxed or restricted.
Seem to me the first thing to do for repairing flood damages is to actually stop the flood shrug .
No. This isn't a national speed limit issue. The first thing you do with an issue like 2A is change minds.
I don't even want to hear about a wedge issue like this come election time. There are higher priorities. I'm not saying it shouldn't ever be on a platform. But its something better suited to an Obama second term sort of political climate.
There are already so many guns that wouldn't help. It's bullets that should be heavily taxed or restricted.
When covid hit, a lot of beginner and intermediate shooters who didn't have a lot of connections or access to stock, quickly learned how to reload their own ammo (essentially make their own 9mm rounds or w/e from scratch)
With the whole supply chain issue and ammo shelves being emptied, mostly by boomers who never shoot out of fear of the coming apocalypse, many actual shooters learned the ropes on reusing cases with some primer and a press and quickly realized the benefits of doing that v going to the gun shop. You had a crazy primer shortage then too because a lot of people were doing that then.
It may be a good thing in the long run to tax ammo a lot more, simply because most people aren't going to have the knowledge or the accessibility to start reloading rounds in their garage and it reduces the places in which they can simply buy higher taxed ammo. Whether the benefits outweigh the negatives, who knows but I'd personally be in favor of it.
But we did have mini version of that kind of response not too long ago and we now have about double the number of guns and ammo than we did 5 years ago. Better to just ban guns than doing something that doesn't do that but instead just make more people get into the hobby.
But we did have mini version of that kind of response not too long ago and we now have about double the number of guns and ammo than we did 5 years ago. Better to just ban guns than doing something that doesn't do that but instead just make more people get into the hobby.
Exactly. As I said fixing this starts with changing minds. And the biggest cohort whose minds need to be changed are the 2A militia, anti tyranny crowd.
We all get their argument. The problem is that argument was valid back in time when the government was small and it was apples to apples with weapons for the most part.
That argument isn't valid anymore. With drones, helicopters, robots, rolling armor, high tech surveillance, etc.. you might as well have a musket.
Exactly. As I said fixing this starts with changing minds. And the biggest cohort whose minds need to be changed are the 2A militia, anti tyranny crowd.We all get their argument. The problem is that argument was valid back in time when the government was small and it was apples to apples with weapons for the most part. That argument isn't valid anymore. With drones, helicopters
I really dont know who's argument is what or really what the consensus is there. No one is shooting down tanks in the street or firing at incoming robots in their living room or something. The problem when societies turn to ****, is that the bottom 99% turn on each other - due to poverty, lack of protections, higher crime, less resources and so forth. You can argue that guns would still make a particular person less safe but the gun violence will mostly be the poor fighting each other.
I really dont know who's argument is what or really what the consensus is there. No one is shooting down tanks in the street or firing at incoming robots in their living room or something. The problem when societies turn to ****, is that the bottom 99% turn on each other - due to poverty, lack of protections, higher crime, less resources and so forth. You can argue that guns
Oddly many homicides in the US are about people who are committing suicide. They just want to take others with them. Sometimes its a father who kills his wife and children. Sometimes its somebody who had a bad experience in a store or the post office and kills a bunch of employees. Sometimes its a racist who kills black people. Sometimes its a person who hates gay people who kills a bunch of gay people (like in a gay bar). And sometimes its a very young person who goes to a local school, usually that they went to, and kills some students and teachers.
Each time this happens the gun lovers say their prayers for the people who died. Its like they think God will ultimately make these decisions and its not our ridiculous gun laws that enable suicidal people to kill a bunch of people before they kill themselves.
Oddly many homicides in the US are about people who are committing suicide. They just want to take others with them. Sometimes its a father who kills his wife and children. Sometimes its somebody who had a bad experience in a store or the post office and kills a bunch of employees. Sometimes its a racist who kills black people. Sometimes its a person who hates gay people w
Yes, and in a crumbling society, you'll have more mental illness, more suicides, more hatred, more poverty more crime, more racism, rape, more hopelessness and everything.
My point, like I said before, is that it won't become a Hollywood showdown between gun owners and an F35.
Also, gun owners are almost half the adult population. I have know idea what they collectively think.
2A isn’t an argument, it’s an excuse
To think different is just laughable
Bump, I guess, for the latest mass shooting at Brown University.
t&p
Oddly many homicides in the US are about people who are committing suicide. They just want to take others with them. Sometimes its a father who kills his wife and children. Sometimes its somebody who had a bad experience in a store or the post office and kills a bunch of employees. Sometimes its a racist who kills black people. Sometimes its a person who hates gay people w
I don't doubt the bolded is true. That said, I suspect that percentage of homicides in that category are less than 1% of all homicides.
Do you have data for this?
