Israel/Palestine thread

Israel/Palestine thread

Think this merits its own thread...

Discuss my fellow 2+2ers..

AM YISRAEL CHAI.

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07 October 2023 at 09:33 PM
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by checkraisdraw

The Palestinian flag dates back to the early teens— but what does it represent? Oh that’s right, pan-Arab nationalism lol

If you can document the flag flying anywhere but Palestine I'd like to see it.

It’s fine to me though I don’t really care what their origins are because they clearly represent a national group now…

Thank you for that.

It’s a constructed nationality

They all are.

with roots in pan-Arabism that became a nationality over time through ethnic conflict with Israel.

Palestinian nationalism was consolidated by the time of the 1936 war and year long general strike. It's because they were a nation that they could pull it off. This was a local event, not pan-Arab.


by Bill Haywood

Yes, they had household slavery, but not plantation slavery. And you are leaving out the part about European demand transforming the West African slave trade. The region became thoroughly militarized as kingdoms launched wars of conquest to get captives to sell -- to the Europeans.

Arabs actually had widespread plantation slavery during the Abbasid Caliphate, which ultimately led to the Zanj slave rebellion in what is present day Iraq. Once they were able to put the blacks down, the Arabs decided that generationally keeping African slaves to do hard labor was not worth the risk; so they switched to what you call household slavery, where castration of males was common (testicles and penis, just to be safe none of their Arab women were defiled by what they considered racially inferior blacks). Which is why despite a bustling slave trade lasting hundreds of years, very little African DNA is present in the Arab population. As opposed to the New World, where there was tremendous gene flow between African slaves and other populations.


I guess the one "good" thing you can say about the various Islamic caliphates is they did not exclusively take blacks as slaves. Although blacks were the lowest slave caste, they also took whites and Turks, with the former being mainly women used as sex slave in harems, and the latter were a slave warrior caste with some social standing.


Israel is

until Hamas turns over all the bodies of deceased Israeli prisoners. This continues the cruel policy of starvation indefinitely. In the utter devastation and mass death of Gaza, not all the bodies can be located, so Israel gets to withhold food forever.

Meanwhile, Israel broke the ceasefire already today by

This is the policy of "you cease, I fire."


by Dunyain

Arabs actually had widespread plantation slavery during the Abbasid Caliphate, which ultimately led to the Zanj slave rebellion in what is present day Iraq. Once they were able to put the blacks down, the Arabs decided that generationally keeping African slaves to do hard labor was not worth the risk; so they switched to what you call household slavery, where castration of mal

I wonder what this gentleman’s opinion is on Judaism and the history of Jews involvement in the slave trade.


by TheKnight00

I wonder what this gentleman’s opinion is on Judaism and the history of Jews involvement in the slave trade.

I’m only here to fight against the assault of disinformation and lies by people like Victor, Bill and The Knight.


Not surprising his only contribution to the thread is ****ed up antisemitic conspiracy theories.

Too much of a coward to even come out and clearly state the lies he’s trying to insinuate.

I wouldn’t have posted AI if there were more “non-Jewish” sources speaking on this. But since it’s some fringe wacko conspiracy, there’s not much out there. I know how some people get about biased Jew sources.


by Bill Haywood

Israel is

until Hamas turns over all the bodies of deceased Israeli prisoners. This continues the cruel policy of starvation indefinitely. In the utter devastation and mass death of Gaza, not all the bodies can be located, so Israel gets to withhold food forever. Meanwhile, Israel broke the ceasefire already today by This is the p

Hamas is being slow returning Israeli hostage remains which is why they are restricting aid to pressure them. It’s obvious now that there is no mass starvation going on in Gaza.

It looks like the IDF fired on a group of Gazans who crossed the ceasefire line.

AJ is not a trustworthy source of info.

Also nice of you to drop the slave talk when it became evident (after like 3 posts lol) that you’re talking out of your ass.


It’s funny how TheKnight keeps bringing up crazy conspiracy theories not realizing that he’s the only one dumb enough to buy into them. Work on your self awareness bud.


It’s also sad how as the war winds down, at least temporarily, the Leftists are starting to panic. People like Bill are getting increasingly worried that the situation is retuning to normal where the IDF pulls out and the Palestinians immediately begin slaughtering each other. The scary part for people like Bill is your average Gen Z leftist is going to lose interest incredibly fast when it’s just Arab on Arab violence.


by DoyleBrunsonFan

Hamas is being slow returning Israeli hostage remains which is why they are restricting aid to pressure them. It’s obvious now that there is no mass starvation going on in Gaza. It looks like the IDF fired on a group of Gazans who crossed the ceasefire line. AJ is not a trustworthy source of info.Also nice of you to drop the slave talk when it became evident (after like 3 po

ya no idea why it would be hard to return the POW remains.


by Victor

ya no idea why it would be hard to return the POW remains.

You having no idea is the most consistent thing about you Victor.


Israel buries the entire city under rubble with like 10 nukes worth of bombs and destroys all the excavators and then clowns like Doyle blame Hamas for not finding the bodies in seconds. these are either the dumbest or most bad faith people in the history. with Doyle, its hard to tell which it is.


The 'resistance' fighters of Hamas - in their haste to reassert dominion over Ghhhaza - are busy murdering dissident Palestinian in the public square, and hobbling others in a most grotesque manner on the beach.

Your Western mob's cause celebre these past 2+ years, folks.

In a just world, no distinction would be made between the jihadis and their Western sympathetics. You can all have your skulls split apart, be gifted your martyrdom.

Suck my circumcised dick, with enthusiasm.


Victor, go kill yourself, n1gger


sup Schlitz, long time budday


by Bill Haywood

Hasn't heard of Chinese eunuchs, but expects to be taken seriously as a commentator on slavery.

The irony of Bill proudly posting this and then citing Al Jazeera on the next page is too perfect. He makes it so easy it’s not even fun.


Seen Republicans do this one a few times now.

Joe Biden and Netanyahu were offered Gaza deal a year ago, says negotiator
Gershon Baskin says he got the plan on to the president’s desk but then learnt the Israelis were waiting for a change of administration in Washington.

https://www.thetimes.com/world/middle-ea...


by DoyleBrunsonFan

The irony of Bill proudly posting this and then citing Al Jazeera on the next page is too perfect.

Can you name one thing inaccurate about the Al Jazeera report?


by FreakDaddy

Seen Republicans do this one a few times now.

Joe Biden and Netanyahu were offered Gaza deal a year ago, says negotiator
Gershon Baskin says he got the plan on to the president’s desk but then learnt the Israelis were waiting for a change of administration in Washington.

https://www.thetimes.com/world/middle-ea...

its well known that Biden cold have ended this at any time. the Dems threw an election bc they preferred murdering children more than beating Trump.


by TheKnight00

I wonder what this gentleman’s opinion is on Judaism and the history of Jews involvement in the slave trade.

Jews had little to do with the slave trade. It wasn't a line of business they were encouraged to participate in.


by Bill Haywood

Can you name one thing inaccurate about the Al Jazeera report?

Can you name one thing accurate about it? Is it reported anywhere besides AJ? Does AJ provide a source for the info?

It’s more the fact that he’s even citing it and I would have the same reaction to anyone citing Fox News.


by Victor

Israel buries the entire city under rubble with like 10 nukes worth of bombs and destroys all the excavators and then clowns like Doyle blame Hamas for not finding the bodies in seconds. these are either the dumbest or most bad faith people in the history. with Doyle, its hard to tell which it is.

seems like both for, idk, all of them


by Victor

Israel buries the entire city under rubble with like 10 nukes worth of bombs and destroys all the excavators and then clowns like Doyle blame Hamas for not finding the bodies in seconds. these are either the dumbest or most bad faith people in the history. with Doyle, its hard to tell which it is.

what’s a nuke’s worth of bombs look like? you guys love your little slogans.


by DoyleBrunsonFan

As a betting man, I’d bet that the youngsters at Mossad are 100 steps ahead of a ****** like you. I’m really not sure what you’re saying beyond some hardcore conspiracy **** stuff. You realize your hero Hassan is an animal abuser?You try to present yourself as some semi objective intellectual but the second you post it all breaks down and you expose yourself as a moron. Sorr

Back to ad hominems, I see. Is that usually a sign of availing yourself well in an argument?

Within my outlook, there is a logical explanation for why Candace Owens' subscribers have increased by 2 million+. Within yours, there's no analogous relationship between poker and intelligence ops, people aren't capable of the most basic strategic thinking, and the increased scrutiny on Israel can be chalked up to random spike in idiocy and antisemitism since Trump got elected.

I notice all these posts are edited as well. You must be pouring your heart and soul into them.


by checkraisdraw

what’s a nuke’s worth of bombs look like?

Anywhere from 10 tons to 50 megatons, per wiki.

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