Moderation Questions
The last iteration of the moderation discussion thread was a complete disaster. Numerous attempts to keep it on topic fa
You are using being "helpful" as a way to make fun of straight men. You seem to have a high percentage of LGBTQ posts. We get it, you're gay. I personally don't feel like I need to always advertise my sexuality.
This is literally an inversion of the truth. none of the recent posts ive made have been gay. They are literally helpful posts about what straight men can do to improve their lives rather than get involved in the darkest corners of the internet, eventually leading to violence. Its funny that crd introduced the idea of weak men but i did not. Many men could benefit from expressing themselves but feel pressured not to. that is all well documented.
The idea that my posts are “leftists” and punching down rather than purposefully going out of my way to be helpful is so preposterous that it begs the question what is going on with you that makes you read my posts that way.
Straight men have shifted towards inceldom and not wanting to offend dominate(abusive) males so they are afraid to express themselves with fashion. straight men are increasingly afraid. I want to help them but of course the advice they need is the opposite of what they want to hear.
“straight men have shifted towards inceldom” is meant to be helpful, and pointing out that spaceman Bryce was punching down is actually offensive.
Oh he was socially isolated from society? But what was he wearing though?
Of course I agree that if you want to attract women you should take care of your appearance, but good advice can be given in a dickish way.
PS you’re misusing begging the question.
PPS congrats to your cousin* and her wife!
Taking care of your appearance can certainly help but it's far from the most important thing.
“straight men have shifted towards inceldom” is meant to be helpful, and pointing out that spaceman Bryce was punching down is actually offensive.Oh he was socially isolated from society? But what was he wearing though?Of course I agree that if you want to attract women you should take care of your appearance, but good advice can be given in a dickish way.PS you’re misusing beg
straight men have shifted towards inceldom and steering them away from that is actionably good advice for men and everyone else .
it wasnt my sister it is a close cousin of mine.
Note that dressing well is not quite the same as the advice im giving.
Straight men have shifted towards inceldom and not wanting to offend dominate(abusive) males so they are afraid to express themselves with fashion. straight men are increasingly afraid. I want to help them but of course the advice they need is the opposite of what they want to hear.
This is literally an inversion of the truth. none of the recent posts ive made have been gay. They are literally helpful posts about what straight men can do to improve their lives rather than get involved in the darkest corners of the internet, eventually leading to violence. Its funny that crd introduced the idea of weak men but i did not. Many men could benefit from expressi
Why do people need to express themselves? This seems like an ego/"look at me" thing. When I put on clothes I want to look good but I don't care at all about 'expressing myself". I think this is actually a bad trait of humans. I feel bad for the poor kids in school who can't afford decent clothes. I highly dislike the focus on fashion. I think people should get away from being so materialistic.
straight men have shifted towards inceldom and steering them away from that is actionably good advice for men and everyone else .
Your proof that straight men have shifted towards inceldom is an article about a person sharing their thoughts on incels. Where is the evidence that’s actually presented in this article that there is a significant portion of the male population that buys into incel ideology?
Yes being an incel is bad, but you don’t actually care about steering straight men away from it. If you did, you would be a lot more careful about how you talk about it. Because just the mere fact of not dressing well and not being able to get women doesn’t make someone an incel. Plenty of men have the “right ideas” about women and still struggle to make friends and meet women. To say the problem is “inceldom” is to just fundamentally understand the problems of male loneliness, and if you actually read your article you would see that there are things OUTSIDE of straight men’s control that are causally linked, like online dating websites being more advantageous to women, and women choosing more celibacy and single lifestyles.
Some of the data points presented are correct but I would disagree with the analysis.
it wasnt my sister it is a close cousin of mine.
I corrected myself.
Note that dressing well is not quite the same as the advice im giving.
Nah you’re not giving advice, you’re concern trolling.
Taking care of your appearance can certainly help but it's far from the most important thing.
Yes I agree. I also think the problems that incels have go beyond just their problems with women. Usually it starts with not having friends or having mental health issues or feeling like they are out of place in the social order because of their appearance or lack of social skills.
There are absurd amounts of data showing that men younger than me aren't having sex
Instead of doing what they need to do to start having sex they jerk each other off in group chats with dumb memes to feel better about being unable to have sex. This is classical incel behavior
Not sure what the push back is towards losers who wallow and thrive in their loserdum. I certainly don't care about people who cope with hate
Like, this guy uses the n word liberally, talks about being the superior race, and absolutely doesn't have sex regularly
Is this who you are going to bat for CRD? This ****in loser? You want to look back in 10 years and say to yourself, "Yeah I defended this fat losers honor on 2p2 against a gay person potentially "concern trolling""
He might literally be a nazi but at least we chastised Bryce!
Why do people need to express themselves? This seems like an ego/"look at me" thing. When I put on clothes I want to look good but I don't care at all about 'expressing myself". I think this is actually a bad trait of humans. I feel bad for the poor kids in school who can't afford decent clothes. I highly dislike the focus on fashion. I think people should get away from being s
Ummm, any clothes you wear expresses yourself. You choose what is today considered society's norm so you don't stand out from anyone. It's still an expression.
Your proof that straight men have shifted towards inceldom is an article about a person sharing their thoughts on incels. Where is the evidence that’s actually presented in this article that there is a significant portion of the male population that buys into incel ideology?Yes being an incel is bad, but you don’t actually care about steering straight men away from it. If you d
This post is awfully long and full of things i dont think and didn’t say, but this is what i mean about uninterest in domineering discussion. you arent trying to understand my point of view youre just saying things i may or may not think and hosting a debate with yourself loudly.
There are absurd amounts of data showing that men younger than me aren't having sexInstead of doing what they need to do to start having sex they jerk each other off in group chats with dumb memes to feel better about being unable to have sex. This is classical incel behaviorNot sure what the push back is towards losers who wallow and thrive in their loserdum. I certainly don
I bet the number of actual "incels" in the world is quite small from a percentage point of view. There is a big difference between "classic incel behavior" and guy's who simply have difficulty getting with girls.
Ummm, any clothes you wear expresses yourself. You choose what is today considered society's norm so you don't stand out from anyone. It's still an expression.
In the context of this particular topic I view "expressing yourself" as intentional. I don't think in terms of intentionality when I dress. I go into my closet and pick a shirt and pants/shorts and wear it. Usually my decision is based on what's not wrinkled. I see this more as not wanting to look bad than "expressing myself".
Why do people need to express themselves? This seems like an ego/"look at me" thing. When I put on clothes I want to look good but I don't care at all about 'expressing myself". I think this is actually a bad trait of humans. I feel bad for the poor kids in school who can't afford decent clothes. I highly dislike the focus on fashion. I think people should get away from being s
This is more about young men should have the freedom to express themselves through fashion if they choose to and less about a requirement. They shouldnt feel pressured to conform to a standard that isn’t there own.
Everyone expresses themselves in different ways.Its not a “materialistic” thing, its a mens rights thing. For example, poorly fit khakis and a chiefs shirt can cost just as much as a colorful graphic tee and a cute scarf- the latter being something that would be mocked unneccesarily in places like kansas. it wouldn’t be an ego thing.
There are absurd amounts of data showing that men younger than me aren't having sexInstead of doing what they need to do to start having sex they jerk each other off in group chats with dumb memes to feel better about being unable to have sex. This is classical incel behaviorNot sure what the push back is towards losers who wallow and thrive in their loserdum. I certainly don
What’s your thoughts on prison abolition and defund the police again coordi? Do you think murderers, pedos, and rapists should be rehabilitated?
Oh but sexless young men are a bridge too far for you to sympathize with, right?
This post is awfully long and full of things i dont think and didn’t say, but this is what i mean about uninterest in domineering discussion. you arent trying to understand my point of view youre just saying things i may or may not think and hosting a debate with yourself loudly.
I’m responding to the article you posted. I’m guessing you didn’t actually read the article and just thought “oh here’s harvard saying incel number go up”
I bet the number of actual "incels" in the world is quite small from a percentage point of view. There is a big difference between "classic incel behavior" and guy's who simply have difficulty getting with girls.
There also is a big similarity between the two: neither of you can get laid.
Exactly. And not getting laid makes you the lowest of the low in society’s eyes. What kind of man can’t get laid? Must be some worthless loser freak if you can’t even accomplish that. 
What’s your thoughts on prison abolition and defund the police again coordi? Do you think murderers, pedos, and rapists should be rehabilitated?
Oh but sexless young men are a bridge too far for you to sympathize with, right?
Sexless young men who "cosplay" as murderers, pedos, and rapists in their locker room group chat
But kind of a weird framing. I don't think I've talked about prison abolition but I certainly have less sympathy for prisoners than incels, though its basically next to zero for both
Exactly. And not getting laid makes you the lowest of the low in society’s eyes. What kind of man can’t get laid? Must be some worthless loser freak if you can’t even accomplish that.
Yes, actually. If the context is "I can't get laid and its not my fault its wokeness and feminism and blacks stealing the girls and immigrants taking my job prospects and also I'm kind of fat and uncleanly and, and, and"
Until fat losers say "I'm a fat loser and thats why I can't get laid but I can be less fat and less of a loser as a start" then they will basically be pond scum
Introspection and self reflection are virtues. Like the drug addict who has burnt every bridge and slashed every life line
There's a ton of reasons why young men arent having sex at similar levels a gen ago.
...online entertainment, porn, gaming
...social media isolation
...lower testosterone
...lower confidence
...mental health issues
...relationship financial costs
...costs of kids
...lack of great paying jobs to accomplish such things
...an increase in face-to face insecurity
...risk/cost v reward of just trying to get sex and or a girlfriend - people are immediately spoiled now.
...people hate each other more
...less people drink
...higher expectations
...less B@M places
...decrease in sugar daddy/mommas
If I was 18 now and grew up in this mental disaster of a world, I'd likely never get married and stay away from most people at a much higher rate.
Idiots
