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I think also there are a lot more emotionally damaged women out there.

This could be taken word for word from an Andrew Tate video.

Not that it makes that wrong, but it does make it funny that the Red Pill and the left agree on something. Not sure the left would bite these bullets though.

Anyway I’m open to people having impediments in their way out of their control like racism or sexism. I feel like this thought process sort of says that’s not possible?

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Sure, but I'd argue the men are damaged at the same rate. Everyone is damaged and for very obvious reasons.

I think social media increases defensiveness v openness in the real world at a redic rate. Covid accelerated that. We got what we asked for and we deserve the results.

I must have misunderstood what you were saying. You are calling out only the very small subset of young men that cosplay as murderers, pedos, and rapists?

Make Men Great Again?

Men were never great, just like America

They just thought they were because they had everyone else under their heel

Maybe, but I was just going off of “have become un****able”.

Maybe it’s “women have the education and freedom to understand men are un****able”?

I don’t think it’s either really but to each their own.

We really need the Cap'n again who could bring people together for a good breakfast and set them off to explore some rainbow colored sugar storms on a journey to defeat Commander Sugarless.

It’s really telling that you think the second one is an improvement over what crossnerd wrote. or that somehow you know how to summarize other peoples ideas better than they do.

Mongidig, its ok to not care about fashion at all. Lots of guys don’t. But its really weird to condemn the majority of humans who do as ego driven and superficial. You more or less implied you’re morally superior to expressive people because you hardly know how to dress yourself.

obesity rates aside, i think a big reason for this is that masculinity has been shamed to where it is either hidden from site or those people have no choice but to embrace what they are and ramp it up to 11 to where they become a buffoon caricature of themselves

this leads women to have to choose between a performative male or a guy with neck tattoos that calls anyone that doesn't change their oil a f@ggot

she can be seen in public with the first type but he's not going to sweep her off her feet and forcefully take her privately whereas the ladder will but she would never be caught dead associating with that type publicly

what they want is this and richard gere today either wouldn't do such a brazen micro aggression such as picking her up without first asking permission or if he would, he'd be wearing a wife beater instead of being sharply dressed

Rickroll, when you say masculinity is being shamed what does that mean to you. What specifically is being shamed?

She said “men have become un****able” and when I pointed out that this implies men were ****able at some point she corrected me.

It’s not about improving what she wrote, it’s about trying to understand what she means, because it’s pretty opaque. Maybe you can explain it to me.

I could be wrong but I don’t even think this is the conversation you had.

Most women just want someone like their father-- whether their father was a nice guy or a total *******. They're super Freudian like that.

Lots of men are damaged but not nearly at the same rate. I don't know any women who don't have severe emotional issues. It's non stop drama with them. They complain about their co workers. They complain about their ex boyfriends. They complain about their female friends. As I listen to them I can't help but notice how much of this was their doing. They simply don't take responsibility for the consequences of their lives.

The biggest issue is that both sides have expectations that are not being met. Guy's just want to have sex as quickly and as cheaply as possible. Girl's are in the constant search for a guy who wants to be with them and it's not just about sex. They enjoy teasing the guy and denying the guy as long as they can. I've gone on a couple meat ups with a girl. She knows what I want because I told her. She continues to only want to meet up in public places. She has clearly had a bad experience. I shouldn't have to pay for that bad experience. She now is wondering why I don't want to hang out anymore.

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I'm not implying I am better or worse than anybody. I think it's 100% obvious that if you feel the need to "express" yourself by how you dress that is 100% ego driven. You don't get all dressed up and go walk in the desert alone do you? You get dressed up for the sole purpose of people noticing you. I'm not saying that's a bad thing. I'm saying it's clearly egoic and superficial.

Thanks for not accusing me of genocide.

i'm sure dunyain or someone else could explain it far better than my lizard brain is capable of

but essentially we've largely shamed and reduced toxic masculinity, so much that basically every comedy from the 80s or earlier is just pure cringe

and with that low hanging fruit gone, we've now taken it a step further to find the new edge cases, which is increasingly encroaching upon standard male behavior, so much that we're now experiencing the phenomena of performative males who in order to get laid have learned to pretend to fit into a non masculine roles in order to advertise to women that they are good dating options

If only it were that easy.

Rickroll , putting aside the fact that getting rid of toxic masculinity is a good thing, I dont see this in my day to day life . Most women I know are dating guys that are plenty masculine. im dating a partner I think of as masculine. I dont see a shortage of masculinity. .

Cmon, this dude slays pussy

Man I totally forgot mongo is the guy who brags that he whacks it to ********** til this red flag of a post popped up

Edit: chaturb8 is censored?