Israel/Palestine thread

Serial killer is a specific thing that requires a certain type of killing. Not just killing 6 people at once for instance. So yeah, just because someone kills 6 people that doesn’t make them a serial killer.

Just like taking on the Nazi playbook is a specific thing that doesn’t just mean you were violent against another group you were in an ethnic conflict against.

You ever get tired of saying the dumbest crap confidently?

his point was that just bc the Jewish Supremacist genociders are not as bad as the Nazis (which is ofc debatable) does not mean they arent some of the worst in history.

and btw my feed is full of dead kids once again.

Out of curiosity, how many Palestinians would have to die before this becomes at least genocide-adjacent in your mind? 500k? All 2 million? More?

The post I was responding to was about 1945 and how everything since then is from the Nazi playbook. Do you see how this is a non-sequitor?

The problem with your argument is there has been probably 20-30 larger displacement of persons and/or wars with more death in the last few decades; none of which you have ever characterized as a genocide, including several going on right now.

So your motivations are purely political, you are completely devoid of any first principles, and it is all completely bad faith on your part.

Between the antisemitic right, characterized by Fuentes, and anti-Israel left, characterized by you, it really is a race to the bottom.

Well we’re not even starting with the right question. You can kill lots of people, millions or tens or millions, in a war without it ever rising to a genocide, and you can kill a few thousand people and it be a genocide. A genocide is not defined by how many are killed. It’s not like you kill 10000 people and it’s a war, and then you kill one more person and it’s a genocide.

But that wasn’t even what 57 on red said, he was talking about a Nazi playbook which it just clearly wasn’t and hasn’t been.

sounds like the term genocide is kinda dumb

The people that say it was a genocide since before October 7th should be able to understand this though, because they obviously aren’t saying that Israel killed hundreds of thousands of people a year or something like that. It was meant to be a statement about cultural erasure and destruction, or population transfers leading to destruction of traditional Palestinian homelands. The argument that Palestinians are undergoing a genocide is not about Israel wanting to kill all Palestinians but that they want to erase their culture and replace it with Greater Israel, which I agree would be unacceptable.

I don't know about addicted. Mass murder is part of their identity. Genocide is their identity. Is one addicted to their identity? Or are they trapped in it?

Because they will always have to defend this. They are trapped telling their children ethnic cleansing is good and justified. You can't say it was kinda somewhat wrong to commit genocide. You can't finesse genocide. It was either justified and righteous or the most abhorrent abomination since WWII. Without sufficient outside pressure, they will continually choose to not endure national shame and rapprochement with the Palestinians, which would have to follow any kind of acknowledgement of their profoundly inhumane actions.

I suspect that this is a false dichotomy.

Do you think there’s a difference between war and war enabled and supplied by the US government?

Norm Finkelstein wrote a book about the weaponization of the h. It’s called the H industry.

Should aipac have to register under FARA?

I don’t think I’m the blue one should be silenced…

I think he just said the silent part out loud. I’m sure other posters agree with him.

I also think silencing the opposition is what authoritarians do… in a democracy or democratic republic the important thing is to allow everyone free speech as unpopular or vile as it may be.

In some ways I respect his position more in the sense he says what he means and calls for a genocide to anyone that disagrees with him… over other posters claiming it’s not a genocide and arguing semantics.

BLUE wasn't banned for saying that Israel's actions are about avenging the Holocaust. He was banned for repeating his wish that posters die or get cancer.

I realize that… my posts may have been confusing.

Then it sounds like your whole "they haven't killed enough people for this to be called a genocide" augment was bad-faith bullshit right from the start.

Whether or not you think a genocide is happening, you are not required to think that a genocide is occuring to conclude that some incidents of violence against Palestinian children are disturbing.

Terrorists have recently emptied 80 West Bank villages.

Haaretz:

https://johnmenadue.com/post/2025/10/its-no-longer-possible-to-be-a-palestinian-in-the-west-bank/?fbclid=IwY2xjawNu8dtleHRuA2FlbQIxMQBicmlkETFVTEszZTgyYXlmTGxMM2hFAR5ZloUJz7cW6beWgNCILCs3EveENExxWckQcFAjTWWidrJ6orOOCInkz3cRKg_aem_3_AV0HGPIclvfSuXtCoUpQ

Pearls and Irritations

It's no longer possible to be a Palestinian in the West Bank

So the US being involved is what makes this a genocide?

To be honest, I dont buy the "I care so much about this because my government is involved" angle. If this argument was actually true, then we would see differential interest in the war through the world consistent with government involvement.

But we dont see that at all. A much better explanation that maps what we actually see is that there is an intense propaganda machine that is engaging people throughout the world at the tribal lizard brain level, especially among Muslims and so called leftists, and this explains the intense interest throughout the world, regardless of govt involvement.

What about US first international policy?

Personally it doesn’t sit right to have problems in the US and send a bunch of foreign aid to Israel to commit a genocide.

Or maybe that’s considered antisemitism?

It doesn’t matter if it’s a genocide… that’s arguing semantics. (And yes I’m against all genocides including Nigeria etc)

It matters that US foreign aid goes to supporting it.

I don’t want the US supporting modern day colonialism, apartheid, ethnic cleansing, greater Israel etc..

Just like I didn’t want war in Iraq over WMD or war in Iran w 2 weeks til nukes.

I also don’t want politicians owned by foreign governments that refuse to register as such like AIPAC w FARA.

I think Israel makes the rest of the world hate the US.

Blue was not banned for his opinions; he was banned for his behavior.