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Whether you think it’s good or bad for Trump/Hegseth to be blowing these speed boats out of the water, how do they
That if a bad act that shouldn't be punished by death is never something that is deserving of death if it is the only way to prevent it.
You're making this thread want to watch Minority Report tonight.
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Nice one but just out the real one shrug
Would it be fair to say that while certain very bad deeds (that often kill) done on purpose, should not be punished with death after the fact. but if you can PREVENT WITH CERTAINTY those very bad deeds by killing the upcoming practitioner, your committing murder is, while illegal, not immoral if there is no alternatives to stop it?
Even outside your country juridiction ?
What are you talking about? If someone is on his way to seriously injure another and there is little risk of death its not immoral to kill them. If I was a runaway slave who was stopped by an overseer. it would not be immoral to kill him. And while my post contained hypotheticals that almost forced you to agree, it was only a starting point. You don't need all those assumption
Yes shoot him instead of paying the guy is much better and +EV monetary wise .
Should cost less then a bullet I suppose .
And the gun too probably .
Pretty amazing trump still alive after not paying his debts so many times .
That if a bad act that shouldn't be punished by death is never something that is deserving of death if it is the only way to prevent it.
That’s not an argument though, that’s a claim. The argument would be the set of premises that lead to this claim as a conclusion.
If you’re asking if anyone should accept that claim I don’t see why they would, but I also have never heard someone make that claim.
What are you talking about? If someone is on his way to seriously injure another and there is little risk of death its not immoral to kill them. If I was a runaway slave who was stopped by an overseer. it would not be immoral to kill him. And while my post contained hypotheticals that almost forced you to agree, it was only a starting point. You don't need all those assumption
I didn't call anything immoral. I was noting that your hypothetical has little or no practical application in the real world because of your embedded assumptions.
I posted the following six weeks ago:
My conversations with these "experts" (Sklansky is an example) often follow a pattern. They throw out of bunch of provocative ideas. I express skepticism about practical implementation, collateral consequences, or public enthusiasm for the ideas, which leads them to say either (i) "I'm the big ideas guy. Why are you raising petty concerns about whether my ideas will actuall
This exchange is a decent example of the phenomena that I was describing.
I didn't call anything immoral. I was noting that your hypothetical has little or no practical application in the real world because of your embedded assumptions.
I posted the following six weeks ago:
This exchange is a decent example of the phenomena that I was describing.
If someone is chasing you because you owe him money and will certainly hurt you fairly badly if he catches you, is it ok to shoot him if only that will stop him? And do you not agree that how someone answers this question is correlated to how they would answer some real-world questions? And that if you could change his mind about question one it might channge his mind about corresponding real world question?
How about a situation where you know someone will groom a young woman and ultimately put them on a path that leads to their suicide? Is it moral in that situation to kill?
No, I don't think its ever been moral to kill Bill Clinton. Sorry.
It also makes no sense to use cold war style geopolitical analysis on the Trump administration. These are people steered by corruption, chasing clout on social media and personal ambition who also happen to be very, very stupid. They are not motivated by national or state interests.
Trump has shown an extreme personal antagonism towards the IRGC in Iran since his first term. Maybe the only thing he has been completely consistent on the last 9 years. Maduro in Venezuela (like Hezbollah in Lebanon) is an arm of their economic, paramilitary and influence network. Whether you agree going after the Maduro regime is in US best interests, it is consistent with Trump's worldview.
That being said, lets not forget Maduro is an illegitimate ruler who ignored and falsified results of a fair election he lost squarely. And all indications are the Trump administration is working with the party that actually won the election to put them back into power. Whatever Trump's personal motivations are, that doesn't mean these actions couldn't be in US interests.
Also, I think you are underestimating how important the Caribbean black fleet oil trade is to propping up Maduro's regime, and funding other anti-Western activities in the region. Unlike Iran (which has a very strong sponsor in China) the Venezuela Maduro regime needs to transport and sell its oil more than the world needs the oil.
In response to the sanctioned tanker that was flying a false flag being seized, Venezuela has started military escorts. It will be interesting to see if the Trump administration escalates or backs down.
Trump has shown an extreme personal antagonism towards the IRGC in Iran since his first term. Maybe the only thing he has been completely consistent on the last 9 years. Maduro in Venezuela (like Hezbollah in Lebanon) is an arm of their economic, paramilitary and influence network. Whether you agree going after the Maduro regime is in US best interests, it is consistent with
Yeah. It's absolutely positively NOT about oil.
I guess you really are that uninformed.Vic, I think we all wish we could live in a world where adults don't have to make difficult life and death decisions. I wish the world was as simple and as binary as you see it, but it's not, unfortunately. It's pretty easy to sit back on your moral high horse, and judge the difficult decisions of others in complex geopolitical warfare. Th
I judge those with a lot of power less by how they abuse it and more by how bad they could have been but weren't. I think others do pretty much the same and that's why the West stays at the top of the geopolitical food chain, despite all the bad stuff we're responsible for.
