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No one said kill cops. And I'm in my mid 40s. I honestly don't feel that old but I know all kinds of crap is probably on the immediate horizon.Personally I'm a big fan of property destruction as a method of forcing social change. Most of these fascists, they love money and property more than human lives. When the typical news report of any civil unrest if given, among the first
Not to belay the point but I am curious how you are assessing that this is going to work.
For what has happened in the last 10 years, it kind of shows that some on the left aren't exactly the most astute at solving problems like this and like I said, burning down two-bit shops in the ghetto on the thesis that buildings are bad and people like money isn't very compelling for the populus.
And again, based on the outrage, it seems like you guys don't know the difference between Walmart and Chevron with some comic shop or taqueria. Now Walmart sells the tacos and you've burned down the taqueria. Instead, you should get your community making and selling Tostitos for the folks and put Walmart out of business - but lets burn it down instead and do the exact opposite because of something. You hit your own where it hurt and helped the enemy.
So I guess my question would be how would this change the course for the little man, because everything points to it doing the opposite on paper, and through recent history.
The wealthy people who own the businesses have insurance so when they’re destroyed they get a payout and the only people who suffer are the regular and poor people who live in those communities. The rich people who own the property live in another community for rich people. His logic only makes sense if you’re a small child or you haven’t taken the effort to think past level 1.
Also take note that his grievances revolve around Dems complicity in genocide. This individual has been one shot by propaganda.
The wealthy people who own the businesses have insurance so when they’re destroyed they get a payout and the only people who suffer are the regular and poor people who live in those communities. The rich people who own the property live in another community for rich people.
But the logic is shared by some others. I understand that some just want to throw Americans into the bbq for their own personal reasons and be done with it, but some are arguing in good faith.
If DM is sincere, I'd like him to elaborate in case im not seeing something.
AP reporting that Good was a recent transplant and had just dropped her kid off and wasn't actively harassing ICE
But the logic is shared by some others. I understand that some just want to throw Americans into the bbq for their own personal reasons and be done with it, but some are arguing in good faith.
If DM is sincere, I'd like him to elaborate in case im not seeing something.
Him and those others are brainwashed by divisive anti-Western propaganda, likely originating from one of the CRINK countries. I don’t think you’re going to find any solid rationale by prodding them.
Dunyain is stuck in the same paradigm a lot of you are stuck in, which is that he can’t support an imperfect victim. He chooses to cope with it by saying that she wasn’t a victim, you’re choosing to cope with it by saying that she wasn’t imperfect.It seems inductively true that she was doing something disruptive, just based off of how her car was positio
Well, I was mainly criticism how the MSM and Democrats predictably choose to dishonestly frame the issue. And their bizarre fetish for celebrating and venerating dysfunction.
Seems this person was involved in an anti-law enforcement civilian vigilante militia. And it is completely ridiculous that Democrats are allowing this kind of behavior, as **** like this is invariably going to happen if vigilante activists are forming militias to disrupt law enforcement operations.
Walz and Frey should absolutely be activating the National Guard, to shut down civilian vigilante groups like the one this woman was involved in.
AP reporting that Good was a recent transplant and had just dropped her kid off and wasn't actively harassing ICE
LOL. I read the article. The only evidence presented int he article she "wasn't actively harassing ICE" was a statement by her ex husband, who seemed to be just wish casting his opinion, as he obviously wasn't there. There is a very little chance he even lives it the same state as her, much less knows what she was doing that morning.
I hope for your sake you didn't actually read the article, as your takeaway is so far from what it actually says.
All indications are she was actively interfering with the ICE agents in a premeditated fashion, which explains why her "wife" got out of the car ahead of time to video tape the whole thing. Can you explain why her "wife" ended up outside the car video taping the encounter if it wasn't premeditated?
Dunyain eating every little shitnugget Maga throws at him. Imagine being this bad at thinking.....
Watch the video. They were wrestling over the gun before that screenshot. That was the moment the officer was finally able to get back control of the gun.
The officer showed tremendous restraint and should be commended for it.
I admit I dont follow MSM much anymore, and have a tremendously low opinion of them, but even I am surprised how bad faith it is.
While you are at it explain to me how Goode's ex husband (probably from hundreds of miles away) wish casting his opinions of what Goode may have been up to is "evidence" she wasn't involved in anti-ICE activism at the time of the incident.
Watch the video. They were wrestling over the gun before that screenshot. That was the moment the officer was finally able to get back control of the gun.
The officer showed tremendous restraint and should be commended for it.
I admit I dont follow MSM much anymore, and have a tremendously low opinion of them, but even I am surprised how bad faith it is.
I have watched the video. The troop has his weapon out and they are scuffling. The black guy grabs the weapon in reactionary self defense and still took a point blank pepper blast to the face
I think you are the one being incredibly disingenuous about all of this
While you are at it explain to me how Goode's ex husband (probably from hundreds of miles away) wish casting his opinions of what Goode may have been up to is "evidence" she wasn't involved in anti-ICE activism at the time of the incident.
I said "AP is reporting"
But AP is infinitely more reputable than literally any right wing news source, so....
Remember when a bunch of disgraced individuals argued here that Musk wasn't a white nationalist? I'll never forget
I said "AP is reporting"
But AP is infinitely more reputable than literally any right wing news source, so....
Yes, they "reputably" provided an uninformed opinion from someone hundreds if not thousands of miles away who doesn't know any more than we do what Goode was doing there. Kudos to them. Pultizer Prize winning material.
Well, I was mainly criticism how the MSM and Democrats predictably choose to dishonestly frame the issue. And their bizarre fetish for celebrating and venerating dysfunction.
So from the basic timeline of the event it’s unclear that when the ICE agents went up to her vehicle they were operating within their rights. The better thing to do seems to be to have called local law enforcement to get the vehicle out of the road. She was far enough away from them that reports were that ICE agents had both told her to drive away and to get out of the car. So already they’re not on the same page, and potentially doing something that would constitute and unlawful arrest if they had continued with their actions.
Now is it reasonable to say that she was somehow impeding their investigation? Well, not really. Again, they approached her, not the other way around.
There’s another issue here, which is that despite the fact that she was possibly being subject to an unlawful detention, that doesn’t mean she should have attempted to flee. People do not have a civil right to flee from an unlawful arrest. That determination is made in court, not by fiat from a civilian.
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Seems this person was involved in an anti-law enforcement civilian vigilante militia. And it is completely ridiculous that Democrats are allowing this kind of behavior, as **** like this is invariably going to happen if vigilante activists are forming militias to disrupt law enforcement operations.
Walz and Frey should absolutely be activating the National Guard, to shut down civilian vigilante groups like the one this woman was involved in.
I don’t see the relevance of this to my comments. I already said she was an imperfect victim. Adding more reasons to think she wasn’t perfect isn’t going to negate the victim predicate.
Your inability to recognize that both can be true is why this country is so ****ed. Both went looking for trouble and found it. Whether you like that or not doesn’t matter. It’s a fact.
You’re just as bad as the *******s on the right who will glorify Rittenhouse and disparage Good.
You just made another false equivalency. Well done.
The problem isn’t that “both can be true.”
Intent matters. Preparation matters. Actions at the moment of violence matter.
One person arrived armed to a volatile situation where lethal force was foreseeable, and then used that force. The other arrived unarmed and did not use lethal force, and was highly unlikely looking to use it at any point. She, by all accounts, was a community ICE observer. Collapsing those events into the same moral category because both were present at a tense event isn’t clarity, it’s a false moral equivalence that collapses moral judgment instead of exercising it.
By that standard, anyone who shows up to a protest, counter-protest, or disaster scene is “looking for trouble” if something goes wrong.
Ugh... I'm done FR this time.
You just made another false equivalency. Well done.The problem isn’t that “both can be true.” Intent matters. Preparation matters. Actions at the moment of violence matter.One person arrived armed to a volatile situation where lethal force was foreseeable, and then used that force. The other arrived unarmed and did not use lethal force, and was highly unlikely
Bye!!
Yes, they "reputably" provided an uninformed opinion from someone hundreds if not thousands of miles away who doesn't know any more than we do what Goode was doing there. Kudos to them. Pultizer Prize winning material.
Who cares?
She was shot in the face point blank, and all they had to do was take her license plate. The agent who shot her, even video'd the car before shooting her. So there's literally not one single excuse. So WTF are you fascist trying to excuse away exactly?
Here's a history lesson, since you guys clearly haven't read much. It took Germany SIX WEEKS to take France in WWII. And the primary reason why? Because neighbors were in a state of informing on each other. Didn't matter which side you were on, everyone was in a heightened state of fear and anxiety. This is the path we're on right now, unless you can get deprogrammed from your brainwashing.
JD Vance said ICE will soon be going door to door to check who is here legally or not. I wonder how that's going to turn out.
Everyone needs to take a step back and realize what's really going on, because it's not a joke anymore. You have the prime minister of Denmark saying that if the US invades Greenland, NATO is over. Trump is making us ALL less safe... and you fks need to wake up to that fact quick.
I’m very torn on the driving away part. While I agree that in this case it doesn’t seem like there was a danger here, I hesitate to say that fleeing the scene of a crime in a car can’t constitute use of a deadly weapon. Cars can obviously be used as weapons. She may not have intended it that way, but it’s never smart to flee people with guns and operating under the color of law in a vehicle.
She panicked, the officer panicked, and what happened happened.
I am not sure what the point is second guessing the split second actions of panicking people in high leverage situations.
Obviously the correct move is to not play the game at all, which means after dropping off her kid at daycare Goode should have gone searching for a job (has she even ever had a job?, the MSM calls her a poet) instead of deciding to stalk and harass police officers.
I admit I sometimes feel like a sucker for even being employed at all when I see big blue cities filled with thousands of activists chanting and marching (and occasionally attacking police officers and burning down cities) all hours of the day when I am busy working.
She panicked, the officer panicked, and what happened happened. I am not sure what the point is second guessing the split second actions of panicking people in high leverage situations.Obviously the correct move is to not play the game at all, which means after dropping off her kid at daycare Goode should have gone searching for a job (has she even ever had a job, the MSM call
Do you just not know about jobs that aren’t 9-5 or days off that are not sat/sun? Or retired people? Or independent contractors? Or taking a paid day off?
I second guess the entire premise of them walking up to enforce a traffic law which they are not legally empowered to do. They were trying to play tough and completely bungled and escalated a situation unnecessarily.
I expect my heavily armed federal agents to not panic in situations they are supposed to be trained for.
Like, do you expect your aunt to handle a stressful situation better than a troop with a gun? What if the troop with the guns are the ones escalating the situation needlessly?
