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12 October 2020 at 08:13 AM
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by rickroll m

you're missing the big picture

at some point we need to put some adults in the room and say "hey maybe we should flex our party muscles and not allow a senile man or a crazy one who threatens our allies to be president"

See, the way everyone knows you're full of shit here is that the Deems actually did this and replaced Biden with a non-senile candidate. Amazingly your deep concern over senility instantly evaporated and you decided to throw your vote away to let the other senile crazy person win. Funny how that works out.


by housenuts m

1/3 of US Presidents have invoked the Insurrection Act. Seems not too rare.

Bush 41 (twice) and Lyndon Johnson invoked.


by housenuts m

1/3 of US Presidents have invoked the Insurrection Act. Seems not too rare.

Last time was 35 years ago

3 times in last 60 years

Unsurprisingly, the massive majority of invocations are to suppress white supremacists uprisings


by rickroll m

i made more money off the 2024 election than most americans made the entire year

my judgement is solid

This is the most American post I have ever seen.


by coordi m

Who called you a monster?

yup nobody has been insulting me at all coordi - you passed the mod perception check 😀


by coordi m

Last time was 35 years ago

3 times in last 60 years

Unsurprisingly, the massive majority of invocations are to suppress white supremacists uprisings

As a rule, I'm sure you're correct.

That said, I don't think the Insurrection Act invoked during the poorly-named Rodney King Riots was to suppress a white-supremacist uprising.


by rickroll m

i made more money off the 2024 election than most americans made the entire year

my judgement is solid

you forgot to log into your Monteroy account for this one


by campfirewest m

To be fair, do DEI hires have any good use?

Given that the entire purpose of DEI is to cast a wide net in recruiting for the candidate pool and then removing favoritism/discrimination against race, gender, etc. during the actual selection, yes. DEI hires perform better than non-DEI hires.


by Victor m

you forgot to log into your Monteroy account for this one

I remember Monteroy bragging about how much $$$ he made in the 2020 election.

He hasn't posted here in years, though.

All the best.


by geezerchess m

As a rule, I'm sure you're correct.

That said, I don't think the Insurrection Act invoked during the poorly-named Rodney King Riots was to suppress a white-supremacist uprising.

Imagine for a moment

that the white supremacists

were the cops that killed king


by geezerchess m

Fair enough.

That said, Harris being nominated as VP was explicitly a DEI hire in the sense that Biden said up front in 2020 that he wanted a POC running mate.

Clarence Thomas was obviously a DEI hire long before the term existed.

Hiring based on race is the exact opposite of what DEI does, so no. It was actually explicity NOT DEI in that case.


by rickroll m

yup nobody has been insulting me at all coordi - you passed the mod perception check 😀

Saying you used poor judgement or fell for lies or were just being misogynistic seems wildly different from being called a monster


by coordi m

Imagine for a moment

that the white supremacists

were the cops that killed king

Of course they were.

What's your point?

The Insurrection Act was invoked because some POC thugs were running amok in parts of L.A. looting businesses owned by other POC.

I saw it live on tee-vee.


by Gorgonian m

Hiring based on race is the exact opposite of what DEI does, so no. It was actually explicity NOT DEI in that case.

Thanks for the correction.


by geezerchess m

Of course they were.

What's your point?

The Insurrection Act was invoked because some POC thugs were running amok in parts of L.A. looting businesses owned by other POC.

the POC "thugs" were rioting because the power structure had changed such that the white supremacists had the power, abused their power, and got away with that abuse

Its literally what conservatives claim the 2nd amendment is for


Boomers aren't beating the allegations


by coordi m

the POC "thugs" were rioting because the power structure had changed such that the white supremacists had the power, abused their power, and got away with that abuse

Its literally what conservatives claim the 2nd amendment is for

So, the POC rioters were fighting the white supremacists by looting businesses owned by POC?

Amazin'!


by TheBigEasy m

More false equivalency bullshit to try to make yourself feel better about your piss-poor judgment.

Only 1 party is responsible for giving us Trump, and that is the GOP. As such, they are worse than the Dems, regardless of what lies you tell yourself.

TheEnd.

Just in the last 40 years. Democratic sponsored and led policies targeted to help the working class:

1993 — Family and Medical Leave Act (FMLA): created up to 12 weeks unpaid, job-protected leave (with continued health benefits) for eligible workers.

1993 — Omnibus Budget Reconciliation Act (OBRA ’93), major EITC expansion: significantly expanded the Earned Income Tax Credit, including creating/expanding a schedule for childless workers.

1997 — Children’s Health Insurance Program (CHIP) created (in the Balanced Budget Act of 1997): expanded coverage for low-income children above Medicaid eligibility. (Clinton-era.)

2007 — Fair Minimum Wage Act: raised the federal minimum wage from $5.15 to $7.25 in phased steps (passed under a Dem Congress, signed by a Republican president).

2009 — Lilly Ledbetter Fair Pay Act: strengthened workers’ ability to challenge pay discrimination by clarifying when the filing clock resets.

2009 — American Recovery and Reinvestment Act (ARRA): large-scale recession response that included tax relief and support such as expanded unemployment support and SNAP support (among other measures).

2009 — COBRA premium subsidies (ARRA sub-provision).

2010 — Affordable Care Act (ACA): expanded access to health coverage via premium tax credits and Medicaid expansion, plus insurance-market reforms that mattered most for people without employer coverage.

2010 — Dodd–Frank (incl. creation of CFPB): created the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau to police abusive consumer financial practices (credit cards, mortgages, etc.).

2021 — American Rescue Plan Act (ARPA): temporarily expanded the Child Tax Credit (size and refundability), among other supports.

2022 — Infrastructure Investment and Jobs Act (IIJA).

2022 — Inflation Reduction Act (IRA), Medicare drug-cost provisions: launched Medicare drug price negotiation and included major drug cost measures, including the $35/month insulin cost-sharing cap for many Medicare beneficiaries.

Republican sponsored legislation to help the working class:

1986 — Tax Reform Act of 1986 (includes EITC expansion): major tax reform that included an EITC expansion (often overlooked because the fight was about rates and base-broadening).

2017 — Tax Cuts and Jobs Act (TCJA): temporarily increased the standard deduction (among other changes that affected different income groups differently).

2020 — CARES Act (COVID relief): large emergency relief law including expanded unemployment support and other household/business supports (bipartisan, signed under Trump). (PPP was a major job-retention channel for many workers.)

I'm being generous and adding the CARES act, because it was bipartisan. If you can find something else they did... please let me know.


by geezerchess m
by coordi m

the POC "thugs" were rioting because the power structure had changed such that the white supremacists had the power, abused their power, and got away with that abuse

Its literally what conservatives claim the 2nd amendment is for

So, the POC rioters were fighting the white supremacists by looting businesses owned by POC?

Amazin'!

shut the fuck up


by coordi m

Saying you used poor judgement or fell for lies or were just being misogynistic seems wildly different from being called a monster

do you honestly believe that's all that's been said of me?


by geezerchess m

Amazin'!

"All those racist cops did was beat up a guy, those darn POC were the real problem!"

"All ICE did was shoot some people, those darn protesters are the real problem!"


by Trolly McTrollson m

shut the **** up

Yeah, like THAT'S ever gonna happen.


by rickroll m

do you honestly believe that's all that's been said of me?

by the people who matter, yeah


by whatthejish m

"All those racist cops did was beat [strike]up a guy[/strike] a guy to death, those darn POC were the real problem!"

"All ICE did was shoot some people, those darn protesters are the real problem!"

minor correction


by whatthejish m

"All those racist cops did was beat up a guy, those darn POC were the real problem!"

"All ICE did was shoot some people, those darn protesters are the real problem!"

I, of course, never said or implied such a things.

Note well that I AGREED with coordi that the beating of Rodney King and the subsequent ruling in favor of the cops was an example of white supremacy.

The specific topic being discussed was occasions in which the Insurrection Act was invoked.

It was invoked by Bush41 because of violent rioters, many of whom were looting businesses owned by POC.

I would encourage you to pay closer attention to what's actually being discussed.

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