If you lived in Minneapolis, and an ICE agent demand ID.....
If you lived in Minneapolis, and an ICE agent demand ID.....
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If you lived in Minneapolis, and an ICE agent demand ID.....

......would you comply. (You have broken no law. You're just walking into the grocery store.)

Why or Why not?

18 January 2026 at 04:26 PM
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by filthyvermin m

so we all agree the pigs did a terrible thing in Philly.....

and Minnesota, and LA, and NY, and Chicago, and on and on and on

Yeah, cops got away with much worse when there wasn't body cams or cell phones everywhere. It's just coming to light a little better now. That example doesn't compare to much of it.

But I also think there are much better avenues to build support than quoting a 40 year old case that killed 11 people because your Stalin's pigs killed 1,000,000x that for far shadier reasons.


by Rococo m

I had seen sources that gave different numbers.

https://collaborativehistory.gse.upenn.e...

I guess that accounts vary, which isn't that surprising.

given the ratios, it wouldn't surprise me in the slightest if they included anyone who had some minor issues that didn't entail getting shot, hit with schrapnel etc


by FreakDaddy m

I know my community well enough and was like, I'm showing up there because they'll need some muscle.



by rickroll m

yes, i just want a leader who will provide those safety nets, cut off freeloaders, regulate industry, not sound like he's performing when interacting with people, and get consensual blowjobs whenever he damn pleases from whomever is willing to give them

Not sure having sex with an employee young enough to be your daughter should count as 'consensual.'


by DoyleBrunsonFan m

******s not understanding that both the democrats and the republicans support Israel because it’s strategically advantageous. The country, both republicans and democrats benefit from a strong allegiance with Israel as opposed to Israel’s enemies who are mostly countries with severe domestic issues. Regardless, the Gazans are worse off with Trump in charge. Idk how you guys c

Please explain how supporting Israel's genocide in Gaza is 'strategically advantageous to us.' Thanks!


by filthyvermin m

so we all agree the pigs did a terrible thing in Philly.....

and Minnesota, and LA, and NY, and Chicago, and on and on and on

1968 is on the line: they want their 'pigs' back.


by filthyvermin m

are you really trying to say that police don't terrorize black communities?

Of course they do. But not necessarily as much as those communities terrorize themselves.


by geezerchess m

Please explain how supporting Israel's genocide in Gaza is 'strategically advantageous to us.' Thanks!

you need a reliable Allie in the middle east. he already explained that! You can't have empire without allies. The alliance with Israel is very good. just in the last 6 months that alliance stopped iran from getting nuclear weapons which would have been very very bad and garanteed worse then anything in gaza.... When they bomb iran again in a few weeks it will be helpful again. You get to run the middle east without putting boots on the ground. its a huge W.

To put it in perspective some reports have the casualties in iran in almost a single week to be half of the total gaza casualties in like the decade. Even if its only a quarter.... Thats a week vs decade


by geezerchess m

Please explain how supporting Israel's genocide in Gaza is 'strategically advantageous to us.' Thanks!

Israel is one of the most technologically developed countries in the world with a highly educated and capable population. Organizations that are actually pushing the boundaries of technical frontiers in industries like AI, cybersecurity, cloud computing, etc require employees who actually know what they are doing.

This is just one small factor and really all you need to do is educate yourself a bit and it will be clear.

Do you think Nvidia and other large tech companies are investing in Israel because they support genocide or because it’s the most advantageous play?

You can be allied with Israel or their enemies who chant “Death to America” at political gatherings. I’m not too sure where your confusion stems from. Maybe you’re not American so seeing America retain one of its closest and most powerful allies is a bad thing.


by MoViN.tArGeT m

you need a reliable Allie in the middle east. he already explained that! You can't have empire without allies. The alliance with Israel is very good. just in the last 6 months that alliance stopped iran from getting nuclear weapons which would have been very very bad and garanteed worse then anything in gaza.... When they bomb iran again in a few weeks it will be helpful again

We also get access to Israeli military R&D and probably a good deal of intelligence. We can be allies with the country developing advanced weapon systems or the terrorist regime who makes bottle rockets out of UN aid packages. It surely doesn’t take a rocket scientist to think through this one lol.

Don’t want to derail too much bc this has all been explained dozens of times in the IP thread.


by rickroll m

yes, i just want a leader who will provide those safety nets, cut off freeloaders, regulate industry, not sound like he's performing when interacting with people, and get consensual blowjobs whenever he damn pleases from whomever is willing to give them

did you know Clinton deregulated banking laws that had protected us for 60 years? and it directly lead to the theft/crash of 2008. that cost us trillions of dollars

he repealed the Glass-Steagall Act


by MoViN.tArGeT m

you need a reliable Allie in the middle east. he already explained that! You can't have empire without allies. The alliance with Israel is very good. just in the last 6 months that alliance stopped iran from getting nuclear weapons which would have been very very bad and garanteed worse then anything in gaza.... When they bomb iran again in a few weeks it will be helpful again

just openly calling for mass murder and empire

I think I need to leave this thread


by filthyvermin m

just openly calling for mass murder and empire

I think I need to leave this thread

Your reading comprehension skills seem to be extremely limited. Text based forum discussions might not be for you bud.

Ofc this guy has 60k posts lmao.


How surprised would you be if someone unearthed a tweet from years ago in which Stephen Miller "jokingly" suggested that black people could be deported on the ground that their ancestors illicitly entered the country by stowing away in the hulls of ships?

Some people don't care about the facts. Some people don't care about the law. Some people don't care about doing the right thing. And right in the middle of the Venn diagram are the true ghouls like him who don't care about any of those things.


by MoViN.tArGeT m

you need a reliable Allie in the middle east. he already explained that! You can't have empire without allies. The alliance with Israel is very good. just in the last 6 months that alliance stopped iran from getting nuclear weapons which would have been very very bad and garanteed worse then anything in gaza.... When they bomb iran again in a few weeks it will be helpful again

Thanks for chiming in, but that doesn't even begin to answer my question.

I of course agree that Israel is a vital ally for us in the ME. That has nothing to do with my question, though.


by DoyleBrunsonFan m

Israel is one of the most technologically developed countries in the world with a highly educated and capable population. Organizations that are actually pushing the boundaries of technical frontiers in industries like AI, cybersecurity, cloud computing, etc require employees who actually know what they are doing. This is just one small factor and really all you need to do is

Maybe I'm too much of an idealist, but I personally don't think we should be sending billions of dollars to a country to help fund their committing genocide.


by geezerchess m

Maybe I'm too much of an idealist, but I personally don't think we should be sending billions of dollars to a country to help fund their committing genocide.

I think you are an idealist. and I think that you misunderstand the fundamental purpose of the USA.

he actually explained well why the US is invested in, coupled with, or controlled by Israel (depending on who you talk to). it makes slaughtering people and stealing their **** easier in that part of the world.


by Rococo m

How surprised would you be if someone unearthed a tweet from years ago in which Stephen Miller "jokingly" suggested that black people could be deported on the ground that their ancestors illicitly entered the country by stowing away in the hulls of ships?Some people don't care about the facts. Some people don't care about the law. Some people don't care about doing the right t

And we have StephenMiller, who you accurately describe as a “ghoul”, because of Trump and those who enabled him. Allowing a monster like Miller to have such power is unforgivable.


by filthyvermin m

I think I need to leave this thread

Seconded.


by TheBigEasy m

And we have StephenMiller, who you accurately describe as a β€œghoul”, because of Trump and those who enabled him. Allowing a monster like Miller to have such power is unforgivable.

Yes. Trump doesn't care about any of those things either. A desire for popularity was at least some sort of brake on Trump's behavior during his first term, albeit not a significant one. Miller of course has never concerned himself with popularity among the broader public. As long as he stays in the good graces of Trump and a few other like-minded ghouls, that's good enough for him.


by geezerchess m

Maybe I'm too much of an idealist, but I personally don't think we should be sending billions of dollars to a country to help fund their committing genocide.

Well Hamas instigated the current conflict with full knowledge of what consequences they may face. Personally, I think a policy of abandoning our allies after they’re attacked on multiple fronts sets a poor precedent but to each their own. Again, all of your questions have been addressed in the IP thread so no further reason to derail. And regardless, Harris would have been “better” for the Gazans in every respect so I think the root of your point is moot.

Also the Axis of Resistance has been severely weakened which greatly benefits the US. If you’re a sensible American you should be able to reason through this.


My point is basically if you effectively voted trump over an issue that is supported by both parties, and ended up choosing the worse of two options for your singular issue, you’re not a responsible voter.


by geezerchess m

Of course they do. But not necessarily as much as those communities terrorize themselves.

This bullshit again


by filthyvermin m

did you know Clinton deregulated banking laws that had protected us for 60 years? and it directly lead to the theft/crash of 2008. that cost us trillions of dollars

he repealed the Glass-Steagall Act

i did

by rickroll m

clinton definitely evades scrutiny due to me being so young during his actual presidency

but he had real charisma and gravitas - i honestly couldn't tell you much about him from a policy standpoint

i'm genuinely pissed he did nothing in regards to glass-steagall but that's about it


Yes its quite simple. you ignore smaller crimes for the greater good Israel gets to do a lil bad because they are useful. its not that complicated
Its exactly like ice. Protesters are doing everything in their power to stop them which is going to have unfortunate events because when police are understaffed and lose control of the situation thats usually when they panic and do dumb things. but their mostly arresting violent rapists so its good for you. and even when their not a violent crimal they are an illegal. So get out your dogwhistle and go stop them arresting illegal rapists. Even in January 57% of arrests were criminals not just illegals.

Its just such a weird loop I don't like ice and they kill people so I'm going to interfere with their job and distract them which will kill more people which will make me hate them more and protest more which will kill more people and I will protest more....

It would make more sense if there was a path to victory but that happens in 2028. I slightly approve if it helps you win that

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