If you lived in Minneapolis, and an ICE agent demand ID.....
If you lived in Minneapolis, and an ICE agent demand ID.....
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If you lived in Minneapolis, and an ICE agent demand ID.....

......would you comply. (You have broken no law. You're just walking into the grocery store.)

Why or Why not?

18 January 2026 at 04:26 PM
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by Land O Lakes m

MSNBC and CNN are two different companies.

Same to me both wings of the Democratic party as Fox is to the GOP


by lozen m

Same to me both wings of the Democratic party as Fox is to the GOP

You should at least pretend that you care about the facts.


by Rococo m

You should at least pretend that you care about the facts.

If your that delusional that you can't comprehend the fact that MSNOW and CNN are overly biased towards the Dems and that Fox is the same towards the GOP you just can't see reality
I remember the days when Meet The Press was not but with the new host they are even bias


by lozen m

If your that delusional that you can't comprehend the fact that MSNOW and CNN are overly biased towards the Dems and that Fox is the same towards the GOP you just can't see reality
I remember the days when Meet The Press was not but with the new host they are even bias

I was talking about your counterfactual claim that they are part of the same company as far as you are concerned. I was reminded of the time that we all told washoe that the term was "Belgian waffles" rather than "Belgish waffles," and washoe responded that he was going to continue using the term "Belgish waffles" because he preferred it.

In fairness to washoe, his hardheadness at least made me laugh.


by Rococo m

I was talking about your counterfactual claim that they are part of the same company as far as you are concerned. I was reminded of the time that we all told washoe that the term was "Belgian waffles" rather than "Belgish waffles," and washoe responded that he was going to continue using the term "Belgish waffles" because he preferred it.In fairness to washoe, his hardheadness

Oh please you knew what I meant .


Oh Ice Agitators setting up roadblocks and demanding drivers show their papers before entering neighborhoods. Sounds like Nazi Germany


I'm in favor of getting all the ICE agents and ICE protestors together in one place and letting them battle it out in an Anchorman-style melee.


by lozen m

Oh Ice Agitators setting up roadblocks and demanding drivers show their papers before entering neighborhoods. Sounds like Nazi Germany

It doesn't sound authoritarian anyway. Or the use of LE agencies arguably for political ends.


by lozen m

Oh Ice Agitators setting up roadblocks and demanding drivers show their papers before entering neighborhoods. Sounds like Nazi Germany

One group is private citizens, the other group is federal agents charged with enforcing federal law and protecting civil rights. Not even close to being equal entities, yet you’ve equated them.

You’re really this ****ing stupid, aren’t you?


by lozen m

Oh Ice Agitators setting up roadblocks and demanding drivers show their papers before entering neighborhoods. Sounds like Nazi Germany

by corpus vile m

It doesn't sound authoritarian anyway. Or the use of LE agencies arguably for political ends.

My apologies, for some weird reason I read "agitators" as "agents", hence my response, my bad and apologies again.


by lozen m

If your that delusional that you can't comprehend the fact that MSNOW and CNN are overly biased towards the Dems and that Fox is the same towards the GOP you just can't see reality
I remember the days when Meet The Press was not but with the new host they are even bias

What does any of this have to do with a company having the integrity to not alter someone's posted media? Since CNN did it you are convinced that all media does it, which is a low IQ take that can create problems in other areas of your life.

Trump really tweaked your melon. Stay tuned - wait until all the election stuff comes up very shortly... lots more fodder for that malleable mind of yours.

by corpus vile m

My apologies, for some weird reason I read "agitators" as "agents", hence my response, my bad and apologies again.

Nah, fukk that guy - he's lying. They were stopping very few cars and they were not asking for ID. The local police already broke it up since only federal agents are allowed to break the law.


by checkraisdraw m

I don’t know what this means. A black person is only accountable to themselves, not their whole race. What would it mean for the black community to take accountability?

Blaming everyone else for their short comings - they have the highest fatherless rate - they were doing better pre Civil Rights Act, lowest income, have more programs to help them over other races, blame racism for every failure, the list goes on and on. Sadly Democrats pander to them making them think racism is holding them back and supporting them with welfare handouts - if you grow up thinking race is holding you back and is insurmountable it's very discouraging trying to succeed. This should all be overhauled but mainstream media has brainwashed most of America.



by pokerfan655 m

Blaming everyone else for their short comings - they have the highest fatherless rate - they were doing better pre Civil Rights Act, lowest income, have more programs to help them over other races, blame racism for every failure, the list goes on and on. Sadly Democrats pander to them making them think racism is holding them back and supporting them with welfare handouts - if y

One of the things I respect about rurals and the low performing white Trump community is how they never blame illegal immigrants or minorities or gays or the transgender community or people on H1B visas for their problems. They straight up say "the fact that we can't afford groceries is not because of Biden or democrats or anyone else but because we whites as a culture do not value lucrative things required to contribute to society like education, hard work, intelligence, creativity and critical thinking and it's on us to improve."


by Land O Lakes m

That's literally what happened. You said you didn't care about the doctoring of a photo on the White House's official X account but did care about the one on MSNOW.

You should be against all doctored photos. In this case, the White House's doctored photo was a more egregious offense but you didn't even want to look at it because you're a partisantard.

That is such a weird take that media and the people they cover lying or doctoring photos are the same thing. In what journalism school do they teach that if the people you cover are liars and dishonest, that is your cue to do the same thing?


by Bored5000 m

That is such a weird take that media and the people they cover lying or doctoring photos are the same thing. In what journalism school do they teach that if the people you cover are liars and dishonest, that is your cue to do the same thing?

What are you talking about? I never said any media publication should alter photos. I just said the White House doing it is far worse. It should be obvious why, but take your time.


by pokerfan655 m

Blaming everyone else for their short comings - they have the highest fatherless rate - they were doing better pre Civil Rights Act, lowest income, have more programs to help them over other races, blame racism for every failure, the list goes on and on. Sadly Democrats pander to them making them think racism is holding them back and supporting them with welfare handouts - if y

I figure I'd probably have a similar outcome or "short comings" if I were born into any of their particular lives, or they mine. Not saying the environment tells the whole story but it's undoubtably a significant contributor to life outcomes.

So I think we should give people or classes of people the benefit of the doubt in regard to accountability. That's not to say they can't do better on there own. Those are two separate issues because we can all do better in theory.

But I definitely agree with you that all the debate and rhetoric discourages people from trying harder. That holds with the younger generation as well. It's really sad but Charlie Kirk-ing them by blaming them for not bootstrapping their demo out of despair won't fix that problem either.


Prosecutors Began Investigating Renee Good’s Killing. Washington Told Them to Stop.

Federal prosecutors had a warrant to collect evidence from Ms. Good’s vehicle, but Trump administration leaders said to drop it. About a dozen prosecutors have departed, leaving the Minnesota U.S. attorney’s office in turmoil.

Hours after an immigration agent fatally shot Renee Good inside her S.U.V. on a Minneapolis street last month, a senior federal prosecutor in Minnesota sought a warrant to search the vehicle for evidence in what he expected would be a standard civil rights investigation into the agent’s use of force.
The prosecutor, Joseph H. Thompson, wrote in an email to colleagues that the Minnesota Bureau of Criminal Apprehension, a state agency that specializes in investigating police shootings, would team up with the F.B.I. to determine whether the shooting had been justified and lawful or had violated Ms. Good’s civil rights.
But later that week, as F.B.I. agents equipped with a signed warrant prepared to document blood spatter and bullet holes in Ms. Good’s S.U.V., they received orders to stop, according to several people with knowledge of the events who spoke on the condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to speak publicly.
The orders, they said, came from senior officials, including Kash Patel, the F.B.I. director, several of whom worried that pursuing a civil rights investigation β€” by using a warrant obtained on that basis β€” would contradict President Trump’s claim that Ms. Good β€œviolently, willfully, and viciously ran over the ICE Officer” who fired at her as she drove her vehicle.

https://archive.is/eYIVS

Hey Movin.Target, remember when you said that police brutality is taken very seriously and investigated? I’m sure you’ll be first in line condemning this blatant political interference into a potential murder investigation.


by checkraisdraw m

https://archive.is/eYIVS

Hey Movin.Target, remember when you said that police brutality is taken very seriously and investigated? I’m sure you’ll be first in line condemning this blatant political interference into a potential murder investigation.

So you want him to condemn it which should be extremely easy to do just as you should be able to condemn Minnesota State and municipal leaders for failing to cooperate with ICE and hand over criminals in jails


by lozen m

So you want him to condemn it which should be extremely easy to do just as you should be able to condemn Minnesota State and municipal leaders for failing to cooperate with ICE and hand over criminals in jails

Why would they cooperate with ICE when they are acting illegally, terrorizing Minnesotans, and then being protected at the highest levels when they potentially murder someone? They have no constitutional or legal duty to cooperate, but the Justice Department does have a legal duty to investigate federal civil rights violations. See how there’s a symmetry breaker?

This is regardless of whether I believe in some cases cooperation is warranted. Unless they are compelled by law to do so it’s not the same situation.


Yeah if ICE wants state governments to cooperate with them, they should start following the and not send people to random detention centers without judicial approval. They are


by ecriture d'adulte m

Yeah if ICE wants state governments to cooperate with them, they should start following the and not send people to random detention centers without judicial approval. They are

covfefe??


Doubt this ever gets to trial

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/ice...

ICE agent charged with assault and accused of pointing a gun at civilians in Minnesota
Gregory Donnell Morgan Jr. was charged with two counts of second-degree assault with a dangerous weapon, and there is a warrant out for his arrest, a Minnesota prosecutor said.


outrage died down on this one? I doubt ice stopped rounding up illegal immigrants


I think the barrage of dildos slowed down ICE. Because if you shoot someone because they threw a dildo at you that's just ridiculous.

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