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12 October 2020 at 08:13 AM
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The parade of famous influencers joining the anti-weed crowd yesterday on X was pretty amusing. Chamath had a historically bad take fwiw.


by Rococo

As discussed earlier, weed is so potent today that few people are smoking huge volume.

I didn't read what it said earlier but weedheads still feel the need to extract cannabanoids and produce dabs, budder, shatter, and a million other concentrates.

It's a totally different level of thc consumption from anything you can get out of the raw plant.

It's NEVER strong enough.


by lozen

If only they could get rid of the smell

Lol, of course lozen is this guy.


by Tuma

The parade of famous influencers joining the anti-weed crowd yesterday on X was pretty amusing. Chamath had a historically bad take fwiw.

On a lot of issues, modern American history and culture is a series of overreactions and overcorrections. Weed comes along, it gets associated with a hippies and later with urban black America in a way that is threatening to a lot of middle America, and we go crazy on enforcement and incarceration. Then, after years of hypocrisy concerning the relative harms of alcohol and weed and many, many thousands of man years of incarceration for weed crimes, several states or cities that want to be the tip of the sword on progressive policy decide to eliminate drug enforcement entirely with no real plan and no real understanding of how to deal with the consequences. Or they legalize weed with no real regulatory structure in place and no plan for an orderly rollout. Then you end up with a noticeable uptick of opioid addicts wandering around like zombies with no place to sleep and unlicensed weed shops with day-glo lighting selling totally unregulated product next door to middle schools.

Then people who want to be the tip of the sword in the other direction freak out and go back to pretending like the war on drugs was successful and go back to talking about weed as if it is closer to opioids than alcohol.


by Rococo

The biggest difference between alcohol and weed isn't the harm to the user. It's the harm to people around the user.

There’s a reason a podcast where people get drunk with MikeTyson doesn’t exist, but one where people get stoned with him does.


by checkraisdraw

Maybe smoking weed just rocks and if you don’t like it you shouldn’t smoke it? The same people that think vaccines cause autism now think weed causes schizophrenia? I’m surprised they even believe in autism or schizophrenia, but I guess we shouldn’t really expect consistency here.

Roses are red,
Violets are blue.

I'm schizophrenic,
and so am I.

(Author unknown)


by TheBigEasy

There’s a reason a podcast where people get drunk with MikeTyson doesn’t exist, but one where people get stoned with him does.

LOL. I guess so.


by TheBigEasy

There’s a reason a podcast where people get drunk with MikeTyson doesn’t exist, but one where people get stoned with him does.

Mike Tyson is a muslim. Alcohol is haram.


by checkraisdraw

Maybe smoking weed just rocks and if you don’t like it you shouldn’t smoke it? The same people that think vaccines cause autism now think weed causes schizophrenia? I’m surprised they even believe in autism or schizophrenia, but I guess we shouldn’t really expect consistency here.

Many years ago I was 'diagnosed' as having mild 'autism.' But it's certainly possible it's something made up by the Medical-Industrial Complex (TM Pending).


by amplify

Mike Tyson is a muslim. Alcohol is haram.

Yeah, but according to him, he was an alcoholic and still drinking for years after he converted to Islam. I don't know about now.


by TheBigEasy

There’s a reason a podcast where people get drunk with MikeTyson doesn’t exist, but one where people get stoned with him does.

Was Tyson a guest on Club Random?*

*Bill Maher's podcast


by Rococo

The belief that weed use is stongly correlated with mental illness is far less commonly held now than it was decades ago. Nobody is rushing to remake Reefer Madness.

We've seen time and time again that the right will change their thoughts on the whims of pathological liars

Weed is already down 15% of favorability with the right

I know there are a handful of posters who really hate thta I broadly lump all conservatives together, but as a voting block, they are pretty much putty to be molded to the relentless media pipelines desires


by 5 south

I hope no one is arguing that weed is more harmful than alcohol.

The federal government has been implying this for ~100 years


by coordi

The federal government has been implying this for ~100 years

By the federal schedule they are arguing it is more dangerous than fentanyl.


by coordi

We've seen time and time again that the right will change their thoughts on the whims of pathological liars

Weed is already down 15% of favorability with the right

I know there are a handful of posters who really hate thta I broadly lump all conservatives together, but as a voting block, they are pretty much putty to be molded to the relentless media pipelines desires

I could be wrong (and usually am), but in 2026 there seems to be more disagreement among 'Conservatives' than among 'Liberals.'

As an example, I believe there is a bigger gap between Candace/Fuentes and FoxNews, than say MSNBC and The Young Turks.


by coordi

Weed is already down 15% of favorability with the right

And down another 2 points today.


by Rococo

On a lot of issues, modern American history and culture is a series of overreactions and overcorrections. Weed comes along, it gets associated with a hippies and later with urban black America in a way that is threatening to a lot of middle America, and we go crazy on enforcement and incarceration. Then, after years of hypocrisy concerning the relative harms of alcohol and we

This is true, but also note that semi-legal and legal sources of opiates also contributed to the uptick in abuse.


by Rococo

rick,As a further response to your question, one of my main problems with stripping convicted felons of voting rights is that the crime almost never has any connection to the right we are taking away. If voting rights were stripped only from people who had been convicted of voter fraud, that would be less of a concern to me. I don't have a problem restricting gun ownership am

i'm beginning to suspect you also think women should have the right to vote as well


by rickroll

i'm beginning to suspect you also think women should have the right to vote as well

And old people. I'm really radical on voting.


i honestly would prefer if we went back to requiring you to be a land owner with some kind of stipulations allowing some flexibility for renters to participate

i know it's not much of an issue because these groups don't vote much to begin with, but i wouldn't want a world where the homeless drug addicts in seattle formed as a cohesive voting bloc as they'd be a large enough of a contingent to where politicians would begin pandering to them


by checkraisdraw

This is true, but also note that semi-legal and legal sources of opiates also contributed to the uptick in abuse.

Of course. There is a reason why Europe never had as big an opioid problem as the U.S.

I wasn't really referring to escalating absolute numbers of opioid addicts. I more was referring to relocation of addicts. One of the consequences of a zero enforcement policy is that addicts get on a bus and go to those places. That's all well and good for the addicts, but it tends to be less well received by the average person who just sees an uptick in addicts hanging out downtown. So if you are Portland or Seattle, and you decide to adopt that policy, you need to have a plan for dealing with that phenomenon.

It isn't uncommon to talk to people with very progressive politics who are critical of their local governments on this issue.


by rickroll

i honestly would prefer if we went back to requiring you to be a land owner with some kind of stipulations allowing some flexibility for renters to participate

So you basically don't want poor people to vote.


Recent posts in this forum have been very illustrative of what I mean when I say that attachment to democratic norms and civil liberties in the United States has proven to be much weaker than many believed. And it isn't just MAGA people, as recent comments by rick, John21, Victor, etc., illustrate.


by geezerchess

I could be wrong (and usually am), but in 2026 there seems to be more disagreement among 'Conservatives' than among 'Liberals.'

As an example, I believe there is a bigger gap between Candace/Fuentes and FoxNews, than say MSNBC and The Young Turks.

It's close, but you might be correct. I/P and relationship to tech are huge wedge issues in both parties. Tolerance for overt white nationalism is a wedge issue in the GOP. Gender politics is an underrated wedge issue among Democrats.


by Luckbox Inc

And down another 2 points today.

I'm not sure that I would draw any durable conclusions from day-to-day horse race journalism on this sort of issue.

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