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In the current news climate we see that some figures and events tend to dominate the front-pages heavily. Still, there a

12 October 2020 at 08:13 AM
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by whatthejish

Imagine being an 80 year old edgelord, and proud of it. Lol, what a dip.

imagine thinking Russia killed this guy with Ecuadorean frog juice.


by Victor

imagine thinking Russia killed this guy with Ecuadorean frog juice.

You’re right, they’re practically the same thing. Both sides, both sides.


by whatthejish

You’re right, they’re practically the same thing. Both sides, both sides.

the conversation is literally about if Russia killed Navalny with frog juice. d2 is so mad that I dont reflexively believe the story that he is tossing out insults like usual. you are so desperate to get recognized by the cool kids that you are doing whatever it is you are doing.


by Victor

the conversation is literally about if Russia killed Navalny with frog juice. d2 is so mad that I dont reflexively believe the story that he is tossing out insults like usual. you are so desperate to get recognized by the cool kids that you are doing whatever it is you are doing.

Just in case it wasn't clear the first couple of times - I'm not mad about anything, I just think you are an exceptionally stupid person (for a myriad reasons, this being only one).


Lol, what a dip.


by Victor

the conversation is literally about if Russia killed Navalny with frog juice. d2 is so mad that I dont reflexively believe the story that he is tossing out insults like usual. you are so desperate to get recognized by the cool kids that you are doing whatever it is you are doing.

There are cool kids here?


by d2_e4

Just in case it wasn't clear the first couple of times - I'm not mad about anything, I just think you are an exceptionally stupid person (for a myriad reasons, this being only one).

brother you think Putin killed a guy with frog juice. and you think that, in your own words, because you are Jewish its perfectly fine to support Israel slaughtering 100s of thousands of children.


by Victor

brother you think Putin killed a guy with frog juice. and you think that, in your own words, because you are Jewish its perfectly fine to support Israel slaughtering 100s of thousands of children.

I'm not sure, but I think you might actually be dumber than the flat earth guy.


by Victor

imagine thinking Russia killed this guy with Ecuadorean frog juice.

I obviously don't have any independent knowledge about the accuracy of that joint statement, but as far as I know, no one is claiming that Russia cultivated frogs in order to harvest poison for the purpose of killing people.

Back in the 1970s, someone discovered that certain South American frogs secrete a substance called epibatidine. Over the last several decades, there was a lot of research into how to synthesize epibatidine. That research was driven in part by interest in using epibatidine as a medical analgesic. As far as I can tell, it was eventually abandoned as a potential analgesic because of its toxicity. For a long time now, epibatidine has just been a highly toxic substance that can be synthesized entirely in a lab with no frogs involved.

You can choose to believe the statement or not, but choosing to disbelieve it because of the historical association with frogs makes no sense. There are a ton of substances that we now produce synthetically that were first discovered in some tropical or subtropical area in South America, including various modern pharmaceuticals.


by Victor
by d2_e4

Just in case it wasn't clear the first couple of times - I'm not mad about anything, I just think you are an exceptionally stupid person (for a myriad reasons, this being only one).

brother you think Putin killed a guy with frog juice. and you think that, in your own words, because you are Jewish its perfectly fine to support Israel slaughtering 100s of thousands of children.

You claim MI6 killed him and still haven't provided a scintilla of evidence to support your bullshit


by Rococo

I obviously don't have any independent knowledge about the accuracy of that joint statement, but as far as I know, no one is claiming that Russia cultivated frogs in order to harvest poison for the purpose of killing people. Back in the 1970s, someone discovered that certain South American frogs secrete a substance called epibatidine. Over the last several decades, there was

didnt say that.

but as far as I know, no one is claiming that Russia cultivated frogs in order to harvest poison for the purpose of killing people.

the two articles that I read didnt say anything about how the poison was acquired or synthesized. nor anything about how it could have been administered. nor anything concrete about how it was detected in Navalny.

heres another article


you would think this would describe how it could be produced. but no.

its almost like the sensational headlines across all major media outlests want you to believe that it actually came from frogs. but thats an aside.

my main problem is that these intelligence agencies just "trust us" and the media did absolutley no due diligence.



seems like important details. I think I will wait on this stuff before believing it.


by corpus vile

You claim MI6 killed him and still haven't provided a scintilla of evidence to support your bullshit

sounds like I provided exactly the same amount of evidence that the Western intelligence agencies provided.


by Victor
by corpus vile

You claim MI6 killed him and still haven't provided a scintilla of evidence to support your bullshit

sounds like I provided exactly the same amount of evidence that the Western intelligence agencies provided.

So no evidence then m'kay. You really are determined to be the dumbest most laughable poster here aren't you.


by Victor

You implied before that Zelensky was a cokehead so you don't seem to have a problem uncritically believing Kremlin propaganda


by Victor

You implied before that Zelensky was a cokehead so you don't seem to have a problem uncritically believing Kremlin propaganda


I agree that the language in the joint statement and the articles about the joint statement was deliberately sensationalistic at worst and unacceptably sloppy at best. Here is an example:

Five European allies on Saturday blamed Russia for killing late Kremlin critic Alexei Navalny using toxin from poison dart frogs while he was held in an Arctic penal colony two years ago, a claim Moscow rejected as propaganda.

In a joint statement, Britain, France, Germany, Sweden and the Netherlands said analyses of samples from Navalny's body "conclusively" confirmed the presence of epibatidine, a toxin found in poison dart frogs in South America and not found naturally in Russia.

On the other hand, your "LOL frogs" response certainly was no better and might as well have been released by Russian state media.

The Russian government, which has repeatedly denied any responsibility for Navalny's death, dismissed the latest allegations as "a Western propaganda hoax," according to the Russian state's TASS news agency, while the Russian embassy in London said: "One must ask what kind of person would believe this nonsense about a frog."

https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/uk-...


by corpus vile

So no evidence then m'kay. You really are determined to be the dumbest most laughable poster here aren't you.

whooosh

by corpus vile

You implied before that Zelensky was a cokehead so you don't seem to have a problem uncritically believing Kremlin propaganda

everything I dont like is Russian propaganda: a child's guide to understanding the world.


by Rococo

I agree that the language in the joint statement and the articles about the joint statement was deliberately sensationalistic at worst and unacceptably sloppy at best. Here is an example:

On the other hand, your "LOL frogs" response certainly was no better and might as well have been released by Russian state media.

https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/uk-...

maybe you missed this part.

the two articles that I read didnt say anything about how the poison was acquired or synthesized. nor anything about how it could have been administered. nor anything concrete about how it was detected in Navalny.

you would think they would describe how it could be produced. but no.

its almost like the sensational headlines across all major media outlests want you to believe that it actually came from frogs. but thats an aside.

my main problem is that these intelligence agencies just "trust us" and the media did absolutley no due diligence.

and really, that shouldnt even need to be said. when you read this headlines and listen to this ghouls, the only response they really deserve is "lol frogs." but you know me, I like to go above and beyond and explain exactly why this whole media cycle is absurd. not that you will actually read it.


by Victor

everything I dont like is Russian propaganda: a child's guide to understanding the world.

But perhaps an accurate guide to understanding how you form your beliefs.


by Rococo

But perhaps an accurate guide to understanding how you form your beliefs.

Western spy agencies just made an absurd claim and provided no evidence or even explanation. and you think I am the one propagandized? I shoulda just stuck with "lol frogs".


by Victor

Western spy agencies just made an absurd claim and provided no evidence or even explanation. and you think I am the one propagandized? I shoulda just stuck with "lol frogs".

I was making a more general observation. Almost inevitably, you seem to take Russian state media statements as truth. That's no way to form beliefs about the world, even if Russian state media sometimes tells the truth and Western governments sometimes lie.

The idea that Navalny was poisoned with epibatidine isn't absurd. It's just impossible for you or I to independently confirm or deny. There is a difference.


I dont even follow Russian media. the fact is that it is painfully obv when Western media is full of ****. pointing that out seems to irk you guys.

the thing is, I dont like Russia. they support the genocidal Israel state, sold out Assad thereby damaging Hamas and Hezbollah, and hung Cuba and Venezuela out to dry.

I think at this point you realize the absurdity of the the claims by the West of frog poison. so now you are pivoting the to the meta and attacking me with ambiguous non-arguments.


by Victor

I dont even follow Russian media. the fact is that it is painfully obv when Western media is full of ****. pointing that out seems to irk you guys.the thing is, I dont like Russia. they support the genocidal Israel state, sold out Assad thereby damaging Hamas and Hezbollah, and hung Cuba and Venezuela out to dry.I think at this point you realize the absurdity of the the clai

Back to LOL frogs, I see. Like I said, just a mouthpiece.


by Victor

I dont even follow Russian media. the fact is that it is painfully obv when Western media is full of ****. pointing that out seems to irk you guys.the thing is, I dont like Russia. they support the genocidal Israel state, sold out Assad thereby damaging Hamas and Hezbollah, and hung Cuba and Venezuela out to dry.I think at this point you realize the absurdity of the the clai

Why don't you tell us a bit more about why you like Hamas and Hezbollah?


by Rococo

Back to LOL frogs, I see. Like I said, just a mouthpiece.

back to uncritically slurping up Western spy agency assertions. you are so brainwashed that the spies dont even bother making up any evidence or details.

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