POG Politics Thread Version 3
Come on in! Since Dustin is taking his ball and going home, it's time to start a new politics thread.
you gotta love how progressives say "hey black people, look at me, i'm stupid and illiterate, i'm just like you" and then call trump a racist
you see this stuff all the time in seattle, people live in neighborhoods with 1 million dollar price premiums tacked on specifically to live in areas where there are no homeless or black people but then figure it all balances out by donating $100 to the kamala campaign
sorry i just re-read that - this is not me trying to say trump is not racist
I'm not sure Newsom can be described as "progressive" either.
you gotta love how progressives say "hey black people, look at me, i'm stupid and illiterate, i'm just like you" and then call trump a racistyou see this stuff all the time in seattle, people live in neighborhoods with 1 million dollar price premiums tacked on specifically to live in areas where there are no homeless or black people but then figure it all balances out by donati
The posts you make are truly one of a kind
NIMBYism is well versed and studied, none of that is my original work - this stuff below is just the tip of the iceberg - there's massive undertones of structural racism even in deeply progressive communities - the wealthy people will do what wealthy people and put up barriers to exclude and remove the unwanted
https://digitalcommons.law.uw.edu/cgi/vi...
https://soc.washington.edu/research/grad...
https://www.lisc.org/our-stories/story/s...
https://scholarship.law.georgetown.edu/c...
https://www.kuow.org/stories/government-...
mercer island, a basically all white and asian community that like most of the wealthy enclaves around greater seattle - home to people like paul allen, is predominantly progressive, is just a 15 minute drive away from downtown and the median home price is over 2 million - had a 20% increase in property value coming after they outlawed homelessness - adopting a policy where police would pickup any homeless they saw, put them in a paddywagon, drive across the bridge and drop them off in downtown seattle
https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-new...
kicking out the homeless made the place more attractive to live in for the very same people who would be attending "help the homeless" black tie galas
if you leave the rhetoric behind and look at what they do in their community - racism is pretty universal across the political spectrum - just one side is better at disguising their nimbyism than the other but more so because they care more about the optics than anything else, when it comes their own backyard, they all want the same thing
AI summary of "Gavin Newsom policies as governor"
As of early 2026, Governor Gavin Newsom’s policies in California heavily prioritize expanding consumer protections, strengthening labor rights, tackling the housing shortage, and advancing climate initiatives. Key actions for 2026 include mandating appliance inclusion in rentals, regulating AI, boosting school nutrition standards, and protecting abortion access.
Key policy areas and recent actions include:
- Housing & Homelessness: Streamlined development, allowing taller/denser projects near transit and simplifying approvals to boost supply. New initiatives focus on clearing encampments and increasing housing accountability.
- Labor & Consumer Protection: New laws for 2026 include a 3-day return window for used cars, expanded paid sick leave for crime victims, and organizing rights for transportation drivers. Landlords are now required to provide stoves and refrigerators in apartments.
- Climate & Environment: Continued push for a clean energy economy, including a $1 billion investment in clean tech and projects. Newsom has focused on expanding the state's aerial firefighting fleet and reducing harmful chemicals in schools.
- Healthcare: Expanded Medi-Cal to all low-income residents regardless of status and implemented $35 insulin caps. The state has allocated $140 million to Planned Parenthood and protected abortion access.
- Education & Technology: Implemented restrictions on smartphone use in schools. New directives involve integrating Generative Artificial Intelligence (GenAI) into state government operations for efficiency.
- Public Safety: Enhanced measures to tackle retail theft and increased penalties for certain crimes.
mercer island, a basically all white and asian community that like most of the wealthy enclaves around greater seattle - home to people like paul allen, is predominantly progressive, is just a 15 minute drive away from downtown and the median home price is over 2 million - had a 20% increase in property value coming after they outlawed homelessness - adopting a policy where pol
Rick, did you read the article you linked?
[Mercer Island Police Sgt. Mike] Seifert said the intent of the ordinance is to work with those experiencing homelessness, rather than penalizing them with fines or jail. ....
The people camping on public property or staying in cars would be directed to Eastside shelters; there is no homeless shelter on Mercer Island. A shelter for women and families, for example, is in Kirkland, about 10 miles away from Mercer Island. A men’s emergency shelter in Bellevue is about five miles away.
If there are no shelter beds available, the city says it can’t enforce the ban, under the U.S. Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals ruling Martin v. Boise, which says such an enforcement violates the constitutional ban on cruel and unusual punishment.
Many jurisdictions have interpreted the decision to mean that cities cannot penalize people for having nowhere to sleep, so if police offer a shelter bed that is declined, they are allowed to arrest that person.
Building on that decision, a decision out of Grants Pass, Oregon, said that fining homeless people for erecting tents or storing belongings is also unconstitutional, unless cities make effort to provide reasonable accommodations.
both of these guys originally correctly called Trump out for the POS that he is, then later kissed his ring and forgot everything they pretended to hold morally
to the extent Trump's cult is built around him being genuine (whether because of or despite the fact that he is genuinely terrible), neither one of these boot-lickers are going to draw nearly the same amount of loyalty spren
Dems don't need to pick someone "safe". They need to pick someone exciting.
dude i live there
i don't think you read the article, of course the proponents are going to present it in a way that is going to be most palatable
importantly, it's not optional, these are people who have access to shelters and refuse them - they don't want to be in the shelter, hence why they came to mercer island in the first place
they are forcibly taken against their will and relocated, if they come back it's rinse and repeat
and property values rose by 20% as a result
but thanks for proving my point that even woke progressives will find a way to promote segregation and still claim they are doing good things
"no person constitutionally ineligible to the office of President shall be eligible to that of Vice-President of the United States." US Const., Am. XII
"No person shall be elected to the office of the President more than twice" US Const., Am. XXII
Dems need to be getting ballot-restricting declaratory judgment actions ready in each state now, and file early in deep-red states to glean conservative-judgment guidance on ripeness.
POTUS can't be sued, but individual states' secretaries can.
dude i live therei don't think you read the article, of course the proponents are going to present it in a way that is going to be most palatableimportantly, it's not optional, these are people who have access to shelters and refuse them - they don't want to be in the shelter, hence why they came to mercer island in the first placethey are forcibly taken against their will and
I don't think homeless encampment counts as "integration", freund, and it's even more disingenuous to suggest that "we don't want people sleeping in tents in the park" is evidence of racism.
Also it might be the case that a 20% property value rise might have other factors than 10 people being told they can't keep doing it.
Police officers interact with about four people on a specific, consistent basis who are staying in parks or other public spaces, Mercer Island Police Sgt. Mike Seifert said at a January meeting. Another six or seven who stay in vehicles on the island are consistently coming into contact with officers, he added.
quotes the article at length
i don't think you read the article
mein gott...
i point out wealthy elite progressives also engage in structural racism and your response is to attack me and call me a nazi
this is the problem with zealots like you - you don't care about fixing the issues, you just like to fellate yourself and pat yourself on the back telling yourself how good a person you are - hence why in progressive cities like san francisco and seattle it's just as bad or even worse for homeless and blacks as it is in conservative areas
black home ownership is noticeably higher in the heavily racist deep south than it is in progressive cities - it's twice as high (about 50% in cities like Charleston and Jackson as it in places like Minneapolis, Seattle and San Francisco
blacks in notably conservative cities like oklahoma city, where there's a conservative majority own homes at about a 40-55% compared to 20-30% rates in liberal bastions
that is a fact
but sure, call me a nazi because i point out basic inequality is also perpetrated by wealthy white elites who like to applaud DEI on twiiter
it's called the progressive paradox - it's a widely studied issue, go to scholar.google.com and educate yourself by searching that term
isn't it impossible to be a progressive and racist at the same time? you can't really call someone a progressive and a racist... unless I don't understand what those words mean
I'm voting it's the later...
Filthy, here's CA's plan for handling your little choo-choo train project. BTW, at 5 times the budget of NASA.
I mean i'd rather spend 5x or a 1000x on trains for CA than for burning rocket fuel to send satellites up to collect all our data and enslave us to our corporate overlords even more!
man I really wanted to have this convo in person at outback steak house with your high school kids and wife there. you could all laugh at me as a family. I would have loved it!
I really ****ed up by not going. damn
one of my biggest regrets in life.. I mean hyperbolically, but still. sucks that my social phobias got the better of me
most progressives aren't actually progressive - but they'll happily call you a nazi for pointing that out
yeah that's what I was trying to point out Rick. they aren't progressives at all! and if you're calling them racists, then you know they're not progressive. so why are you calling them that?
