Adding the minclick torpedo to my arsenal
1/3 NLHE 9 handed
We're dead in every form of the word. Card dead for an hour. Pick up QQ and run into KK. Card dead for

flop 3 ways where hes meant to cbet 11% of the time for this size (he is probably going to cbet more) - this is 3 handed so even less 4 ways id imagine. its not even just that you block his good hands, you have a hand that is happy to fold out basically any 2 cards. making him fold something like QTo is a huge win for your hand since he has 25% and the ability to bluff you effectively on most runouts.

now when i nodelock it to cbet ~50%

turn non nodelocked
your logic for raising honestly makes no sense. "suddenly i think he has a real hand because he uses this size but the described drooler who doesn't fold and does stuff randomly is going to hero fold or not pay off if you river a flush" so i decided to raise with a marginal hand / draw that is getting ok odds because i think he has a good hand?
I don't understand what the raise accomplishes. Are you trying to set up a bluff shove if you miss the river? You are 32% against AK on the turn. If he 3! shoves for more than pot, then you have to fold. That is a total disaster to have close to the equity to call, but clearly not enough. You called in the straddle, so it is hard for you to represent a good ace, so hard to get him to fold a better hand. If you had a set or aces up, you would raise larger on the somewhat wet board.
I like the min-click with the nuts, because they always call.
Just passing this along:
Thereβs an Australian poker writer and pro named Bruce Winter that claims that anytime you play a hand containing a seven or smaller, you will lose 75% of the time.
*Fold pre-flop*
This game is really not about trying to make difficult situations for ourselves and then digging our way out.
Isn't that a donk play. If you have the nuts, you want value, not to make sure they don't fold.
Just passing this along:
There’s an Australian poker writer and pro named Bruce Winter that claims that anytime you play a hand containing a seven or smaller, you will lose 75% of the time.
*Fold pre-flop*
Once you straddle, the call of the small raise doesn't lose much.
This game is really not about trying to make difficult situations for ourselves and then digging our way out.
That seems to be Banana's general approach.
Just passing this along:
There’s an Australian poker writer and pro named Bruce Winter that claims that anytime you play a hand containing a seven or smaller, you will lose 75% of the time.
This is a constant theme in your posts, but the amount of times you lose versus win a hand is *meaningless*. All that matters is whether you are +EV versus -EV for that hand (and in that spot / etc.). For example, even in great setmining spots you will still lose the hand the vast majority of the time, but the play overall is still +EV versus the 0EV of folding.
ETA: In this case here, my best guess (as no one will be able to prove it mathematically) is that the preflop call is -EV... but it has absolutely nothing to do with the taken fact the hand will lose 75% of the time.
Gnothatin',justsayin'G
Yeah, it doesn't matter if you usually lose the pot playing 44 or A3s multiway. It is the big pots you win when you hit.
There is also balance and making it difficult to read if you raise or 3! suited connectors, then sometimes bluff representing AK or QQ+. Some advantage that people can't be sure you don't have low cards.
Yeah, it doesn't matter if you usually lose the pot playing 44 or A3s multiway. It is the big pots you win when you hit.
There is also balance and making it difficult to read if you raise or 3! suited connectors, then sometimes bluff representing AK or QQ+. Some advantage that people can't be sure you don't have low cards.
Yeah and just to add to this and what GG said, having those low cards is also valuable for us to at least occasionally have cards that connect with the board after we 3-bet and the flop comes something like 876. Especially when you're deep stacked and playing against a solid opponent, board coverage is a real concept.
Result:
Spoiler
V calls. River hits V like an offsuit K, I check give up, V eventually bets 150 or something and I fold.
Hey, Iβm not Bruce Winter, heβs a math guy with interesting conclusions
But I donβt find any of your arguments terribly convincing - I said fold pre & it seems youβre defending 5h7h UTG. I wonβt be making that play.
Itβs a high card game I do believe, but how and when you play the little ones does matter.
Hey, Iβm not Bruce Winter, heβs a math guy with interesting conclusions
But I donβt find any of your arguments terribly convincing - I said fold pre & it seems youβre defending 5h7h UTG. I wonβt be making that play.
Itβs a high card game I do believe, but how and when you play the little ones does matter.
I never said it was a good decision to call with 75s here vs a 4x raise. I said it's good to occasionally 3-bet with suited connectors when you're deep.
I don't see the purpose of the raise or what you accomplished. Just seemed to burn $80.
It isn't a good board for your range, so no point in bluffing. Plus you have a little showdown value and a draw, so no reason to bluff.
I never said it was a good decision to call with 75s here vs a 4x raise. I said it's good to occasionally 3-bet with suited connectors when you're deep.
What 4x raise. It was a 3.3xraise over the straddle and hero had to call 2.3x. It may be a bad call, but it is fairly close.
I don't see the purpose of the raise or what you accomplished. Just seemed to burn $80. It isn't a good board for your range, so no point in bluffing. Plus you have a little showdown value and a draw, so no reason to bluff.
I never said it was a good decision to call with 75s here vs a 4x raise. I said it's good to occasionally 3-bet with suited connectors when you're deep.
What
I guess you straddle to 6 in 1/3. I was thinking the straddle would be to 5, but I must have been thinking of 1/2.
Anyway 75s is likely still a fold out preflop here, mainly due to rake effects. That wasn't my point though. I was just trying to explain to freecard there are valid reasons to play small suited connectors in some situations.
Yeah, it is probably a fold to the preflop raise, but people who straddle tend to call and raise light. I don't straddle unless the table is doing it, but that seems to be the pattern.
Hero could be good on the river, but probably cannot call. A aggressive player could cbet small and then barrel larger on the ace high board HU. The minraise does make it less likely he is bluffing when he bets the river, so maybe that was the purpose.
pre is fine if you play well (lol)
Would be nicer and say that you kind of have to call $14 (2.333β¦ straddles) closing the action, and get better if it's losing too much.
The only other viable option is to not straddle. Like you can straddle for the image/whatever and fold sometimes, but if you are folding 75s for this size then stop straddling.
Given villain description I would lean to not raise flop (curious what the solver EV of call/raise is on flop), but def. not raise this turn for the same reasons.