USA Goes to War Against Iran
Time for a dedicated thread to the war.
How long will it last and what will be the probable outcome?
It would imagine that Moj keeping it open while threatening shutdown to the world would be the best move for him.
Iran not going to close Strait of Hormuz, Iran UN envoy says
March 12 (Reuters) - Iran's U.N. Ambassador said on Thursday Tehran was not going to close the Strait of Hormuz, but added that it was Iran's right to preserve the security of the key shipping route.
Amir Saeid Iravani made his comments to reporters at the United Nations when asked about remarks by new Iranian supreme leader, Mojtaba Khamenei, who said on Thursday that the "lever of blocking the Strait of Hormuz must continue to be used."
going in the hall of fame of regrettable historical quotations
Stephen Miller:
"There has never in history been a more total asymmetric one-sided
annihilation of the enemy than what is unfolding right now in Iran"
going in the hall of fame of regrettable historical quotations
Stephen Miller:
"There has never in history been a more total asymmetric one-sided
annihilation of the enemy than what is unfolding right now in Iran"
In before Miller delivers his total war speech at the Sportpalast.
See... here come all the usual suspects in this thread.A lot of younger people don't realize that they are being just as radicalized online as Islamist extremists. The function is the same. There are massive anti-USA propaganda machines on social media by foreign actors, targeting US citizens by psychological profile and skillfully manipulating and brainwashing them. I just lis
Amy Goodman is CIA.
It's controlled opposition. Sorry to break it to you but she's Harvard educated, Ford Foundation funded disinfo.
They certainly want them, they just haven't been able to get them yet, for reasons like the recent air attacks on the centrifuge sites.
Actually, it seems Khameni really was against nukes for his own spiritual reasons, and I think that played a real role in the decision not to go nuclear. Also, strategically the regime saw value in threatening going nuclear for leverage in extracting concessions from the West to not do so. And lets be honest, the plan was working well until Trump was elected. I think we underestimate just how much of a wild card Trump is; and how things are happening due solely to him that were completely impossible to predict or contingency plan for.
It would imagine that Moj keeping it open while threatening shutdown to the world would be the best move for him.Iran not going to close Strait of Hormuz, Iran UN envoy says
LOL. That guy is in a coma. He isn't planning anything. Basically what has happened is a coupe where the IRGC has seized political power from the clerics, using this guy's inert body as a prop to provide legitimacy (that I guarantee no one in Iran is buying; just stupid Westerners)
Iran shoots down KC-135.
It is wild to watch in real time the moronic notion of these ****ing idiots ok with 99 of their jump to conclusion assertions being flat out wrong as long as 1 time out of 100 they get it right, then it’s all completely justified and worth it
Both Amy being CIA and Iran shooting down a 135 are certainly possible but what odds would you give both of these being so?
SRM I didn't know you were such a Pentagon fanboy but I guess I shouldn't be surprised.
Both Amy being CIA and Iran shooting down a 135 are certainly possible but what odds would you give both of these being so?
Goodman CIA is like 95% and the other 5% she's actually DIA or associated with some different agency.
Iran shooting down the tanker is 50% so the odds of both being true is 47.5%.
Shot it down with what? Given it was a refueling plane seems much more likely it was a refueling accident.
Please tell me you aren’t one those people whose social media feed is made up “news” of defeats by Israel and the US, and you actually believed them?
Since it was a refueling plane it probably flies pretty slow and is easy it hit.
They train on how to do refuels all the time so they probably got that part right
If you weren’t proven to be one of the stupidest people I’ve ever seen on the internet id swear you were masterful satire
Alas you’re just a complete ****ing moron who loves him some conspiratarding with zero personal accountability
Since it was a refueling plane it probably flies pretty slow and is easy it hit.
They train on how to do refuels all the time so they probably got that part right
It is possible one plane was shot down by Iran over Iraq. But I would say the probability to be way way way below 50%.
And an accident by far most likely.
Anyways, what I can to post is news is Israel is doing targeted campaigns against the internal security apparatus (the people who murdered tens of thousands in January) in Tehran and a few other places.
Give Israel credit. Whether it works or not. They really are putting their money where their mouth is and trying to destroy the regime and free the Iranian people.
But working against the clock as Trump wants things wrapped up ASAP so he can declare victory.
Also news of defections among the IRGC, internally and externally. Although who knows if it is anywhere near a threshold to make a difference.
See... here come all the usual suspects in this thread.A lot of younger people don't realize that they are being just as radicalized online as Islamist extremists. The function is the same. There are massive anti-USA propaganda machines on social media by foreign actors, targeting US citizens by psychological profile and skillfully manipulating and brainwashing them. I just lis
It’s different. If we were getting pummeled like Iran, we wouldn’t be devoting much by way of internal security to quell protests because there wouldn’t be any. The situations aren’t even remotely comparable.
But what this really shows is how foreign actors in authoritarian regimes see us: they’re projecting their fear of being overthrown onto the U.S. government. Right by some impressionable teens online who think they’re the radical left. They’re the faux left, not actual revolutionaries like the Iranian regime is facing.
Since it was a refueling plane it probably flies pretty slow and is easy it hit.
They train on how to do refuels all the time so they probably got that part right
Yeah, anything is possible and we werent there but it looked to have been in friendly airspace? Kc 135s dont go exactly go hovering around in hot zones for obvious reasons but maybe this place wasnt so friendly.
But its going to be impossible for any of us at sitting at home to know with any certainty what happened. And I dont think this generation is equipped to handle that both with the function of confirmational social media and just on the fact that a war is hugely partisan conversation.
It’s different. If we were getting pummeled like Iran, we wouldn’t be devoting much by way of internal security to quell protests because there wouldn’t be any. The situations aren’t even remotely comparable.But what this really shows is how foreign actors in authoritarian regimes see us: they’re projecting their fear of being overthrown onto the U.S. government. Right by some
Let me make sure I’m not putting words in your mouth. If I’m reading this correctly you think the Iranian regime was at a heightened risk of being overthrown internally before this war started?
