The Democratic Party's Slide Into Irrelevance
Attaching a poll ... Dems unfavorability rating increased from 45% to 57% during the Biden Administration.
Obama "We're all in this together."
Trump: "I'll fight for you."
Hillary just wasn't as good at leaving it at emotional connection. One of her main slogans "Stronger Together" was more about unity rather than an acknowledgement of emotional pain. She speaks like she's writing for a law school exam. That appeals to some but appears aloof to others.
Al Gore had similar issues, relative to Bush anyway.
Obama "We're all in this together."Trump: "I'll fight for you."Hillary just wasn't as good at leaving it at emotional connection. One of her main slogans "Stronger Together" was more about unity rather than an acknowledgement of emotional pain. She speaks like she's writing for a law school exam. That appeals to some but appears aloof to others.Al Gore had similar issues, relat
It's akin to the "Would you like to hang out and have a beer with this person?"
Obama "We're all in this together."Trump: "I'll fight for you."Hillary just wasn't as good at leaving it at emotional connection. One of her main slogans "Stronger Together" was more about unity rather than an acknowledgement of emotional pain. She speaks like she's writing for a law school exam. That appeals to some but appears aloof to others.Al Gore had similar issues, relat
The main thing is just not repel and alienate large voter blocks. Obama essentially handed her a lock and she just blew it. The whole uneducated voter meme both from her along with CNN and NBC panels coupled with social media harping on that just tanked her lead.
At any rate I'm thinking Beshear and Whitmer together would make a really strong ticket, even one or the other. Whitmer would be my pick by a good margin, though. I like her domestic and especially global economic positions. Getting us out of this isolationist hole the GOP are digging and her guaranteed income kind of top my priority list.
You guys must have thought this ATN slogan in Succession was pure genius, even though it was played for comedy in the show.
Giving the impression of listening to people is necessary but not sufficient imo.
The main thing is just not repel and alienate large voter blocks. Obama essentially handed her a lock and she just blew it.
That's just not true. If you ignored the candidates and just put in Obama's ratings and economic numbers it would have been a flip at best for dems to hold the WH. In addition, running from the incumbent party but not actually being the incumbent is one of the hardest things to do as a candidate.
I heard Chris Christie tell a story about the first time he met Clinton, which was ironically at Trump's wedding. In a room full of famous people he was the one guy that took time to introduce himself and have a brief but meaningful conversation with a rando at the time US attorney. Biden and Clinton are probably the only recent presidents that naturally have that personality. Which I imagine was more important when they first got elected as opposed to people like Bush, Obama and Trump.
Every time I see Ro Khanna speak I think he could be a great choice for the Dems .
Though Gavin has the personality like Clinton and Obama
That's just not true. If you ignored the candidates and just put in Obama's ratings and economic numbers it would have been a flip at best for dems to hold the WH. In addition, running from the incumbent party but not actually being the incumbent is one of the hardest things to do as a candidate.
She had a 10 point lead coming out of the convention and then went on campaigning in the coastal cities instead of the rust belt. Biden would have won, imo.
I. Which I imagine was more important when they first got elected as opposed to people like Bush, Obama and Trump.
As Rococo said, it's necessary but not sufficient. Main thing is not being unfavorable with the working-class block, especially with the swing states like Harris.
--Maybe in the short run they can get away with it, because of the Trump stink. But in 10 years Trump and Netanyahu are both going to be dead, and I suspect the "Lets get Whitey" messaging (and more generally race communism) of the progressive wing of the Democrat Party is going to be a serious liability.
--Once Trump is in the rearview mirror I think Republicans actually have a lot of reason for optimism electorally IMO.
I heard Chris Christie tell a story about the first time he met Clinton, which was ironically at Trump's wedding. In a room full of famous people he was the one guy that took time to introduce himself and have a brief but meaningful conversation with a rando at the time US attorney. Biden and Clinton are probably the only recent presidents that naturally have that personality
This anecdote is not surprising. Of all presidential candidates in my lifetime, I think Bill Clinton was the most hard-wired for successful campaigning. I have never seen a candidate who seemed to enjoy campaigning and meeting/talking to random (or important) people as much as Clinton.
Every time I see Ro Khanna speak I think he could be a great choice for the Dems .
Though Gavin has the personality like Clinton and Obama
I don't think Clinton and Obama have similar personalities. They both are smart. They both are good speakers. But that's where the similarities end. I don't think Obama particularly enjoyed campaigning. I think Clinton preferred campaigning to governing.
This anecdote is not surprising. Of all presidential candidates in my lifetime, I think Bill Clinton was the most hard-wired for successful campaigning. I have never seen a candidate who seemed to enjoy campaigning and meeting/talking to random (or important) people as much as Clinton.
Ted Kennedy was wired the same way.* (While he never got the nomination ofc, he got close to it in 1980 when he challenged incumbent Jimmy Carter for the Dem nomination.)
*my lifetime, anyway.
Democratic and liberal candidates either won or performed massively better than expected
in state and local elections across Wisconsin, Georgia, Missouri, and Oklahoma on Tuesday
Thought this was appropriate for this thread and this forum in general.
We live in the absolute dumbest timeline
Frank Zappa was right when he said this over twenty years, and it's still true today:
Politics is the entertainment division of the Military-Industrial Complex.
Frank Zappa was right when he said this over twenty years, and it's still true today:
Politics is the entertainment division of the Military-Industrial Complex.
Right we were missing the “both sides did it? > yes > **** the Democrats!” part of the decision tree. Thanks for the reminder.
I doubt living standards would be much different if the US were a monarchy. People wouldn’t leave because the king was bombing other countries or whatever. And those from countries with lower living standards would still want to come, irrespective of not having any genuine liberties regarding representation. In fact, there might even be a kind of peace of mind in not having, or believing we have, any real political power. As someone else said: ignorance is bliss.
I doubt living standards would be much different if the US were a monarchy. People wouldn’t leave because the king was bombing other countries or whatever. And those from countries with lower living standards would still want to come, irrespective of not having any genuine liberties regarding representation. In fact, there might even be a kind of peace of mind in not havi
So in less than 300 years, we’ve already made it to, “is having a king really that bad?” Nice.
I doubt living standards would be much different if the US were a monarchy. People wouldn’t leave because the king was bombing other countries or whatever. And those from countries with lower living standards would still want to come, irrespective of not having any genuine liberties regarding representation. In fact, there might even be a kind of peace of mind in not having, or
Having a regent is sort of an empty concept, because there are many types. I’m sure if we had a UK style monarchy nothing much would change. In fact we know this is the case because of other countries that are like us with the actual UK monarchy lol
Right we were missing the “both sides did it? > yes > **** the Democrats!” part of the decision tree. Thanks for the reminder.
Which party had a huge majority in both Houses plus the White House in the Vietnam Era?
How many Democrats voted against Desert Storm?
How many Democrats voted against the takedown of Saddam?
Teamwork makes a dreamwork!
I doubt living standards would be much different if the US were a monarchy. People wouldn’t leave because the king was bombing other countries or whatever. And those from countries with lower living standards would still want to come, irrespective of not having any genuine liberties regarding representation. In fact, there might even be a kind of peace of mind in not having, or
Nut Nut pretty much said the same. Then he slowly transitioned to many will freely abide and those who dont will be dealt with accordingly or abide. Your living conditions, as with most everything else, would be heavily dependant on who the king is - which would just be dumb.
Nut Nut pretty much said the same. Then he slowly transitioned to many will freely abide and those who dont will be dealt with accordingly or abide. Your living conditions, as with most everything else, would be heavily dependant on who the king is - which would just be dumb.
Well Nut Nut was worst-case scenario, while I’m talking about typical behavior. I think most people wouldn’t feel a strong reason to challenge a system purely on idealistic grounds if their lives were stable and comfortable. That's basically the challenge the radical left has faced with liberal democracies: most people in the West don't think things are so bad that we're in need of a system overhaul.
