Is there evidence that Robbi cheated Garrett?
Hello all. My first post on here. My name is Chester Mead. I am a poker dealer for more than 15 years and a poker player of more than 23 years. I believe I have noticed some things about the Garrett vs Robbi hand that no one else is really talking about.
I created a video on youtube that I hope you guys will watch.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2jWeVG8S...
If you don't want to watch the video, I'll explain my thoughts here also, then you can watch the video to see what I'm talking about.
Let's theorize that Rip had a relationship with Bryan, the guy in the production room with access to the live feed of the cards. They come up with a plan to cheat, but they want to bring in someone else to actually do the cheating, and they will all split the profit from the cheat. So, Rip recruits Robbi and backs her buy-in, Rip gets 50% of the profit, Robbi 40%, and Bryan 10% (theoretical figures). Their plan is simple, Bryan will signal Robbi with a binary piece of information that only tells her "you're good", or "you're not good". This way there is no physical evidence of cheating, no vibrating devices, no looking at your phone to see the cards, no smoking gun. They think the plan is fail proof.
So to make this plan happen, Bryan would have to tell Rip and Robbi to show up to the game early to make sure they get the best seat. Bryan tells Robbi, "make sure you sit in seat 2 so you have the best visual of the signal". Also, he says "We need a way to communicate if you're ever confused in a spot, so if at any moment you need to re-confirm the signal, or you missed the signal, just scratch your face and I'll give you the signal again".
Okay, now the plan is in motion. Rip and Robbi do show up early to the game, Robbi gets her seat number 2 with a clear visual of the poker room through the glass doors of the Hustler casino. Fast forward to hand number 1 of my video. Robbi plays a hand vs Eric P where Robbi raises to 1200 with AK, faces a 3 bet from Eric P to 6200 with A8 and Robbi calls. The flop misses both players and Robbi needs to check her signal to see if she's good, and she does, making a quick glance with her eyes outside of the poker room to obtain her signal. Eric bets 8800, Robbi checks her signal, confirms she's good, and makes the call. The turn card is a 2 and Eric bets 20k. Robbi needs to confirm if she's still good because the 2 changes the board and she still only has A high. She does check, you see her eyes go to the same spot they did on the flop, somewhere outside the poker room. She confirms she's good, and makes a raise to 45k with AK high. Eric is forced to fold, and Robbi cheated Eric out of over 30k just like that.
Moving forward to hand number 2 of my video, a hand that many players will use as a point of evidence that she is not cheating, but because they don't understand that she is not Mike Postle. She does not know the cards, she only knows whether she's ahead or not at that given moment in the hand. Garrett raises to 3k with Q4s, Robbi calls with J8d, and Andy calls with K10o. Flop is QQK, one diamond. Garrett c-bets with trips for 3k, both Robbi and Andy call. If this were Mike Postle, she would just fold right here, but she only knows if she's good or not now, but with hand like J8d, Robbi has backdoor possibilities, and the ability to know if she's good by the river. So with backdoors, she calls easily. No need to check for her signal because she just has J high with some backdoors. Turn card is the 4 of diamonds. Garrett now bets 10k, Robbi calls, and Andy folds. This is a point of argument for many people who say she can't possibly be cheating because she puts money in while drawing dead. Yes, she puts money in drawing dead, but she doesn't know Garrett's exact hole cards, so if she makes her flush, she can then check her signal. It's too bad that she didn't make her flush because I'm sure she would have checked her signal and then we would have seen her make an excellent fold. Either way, the river bricks and Garrett bets 55k, now Robbie takes her time, puts in a time bank and checks her signal. Why? Because Andy was in the hand until the river, it is possible that Andy folded the best hand on the turn and there is a small chance that Robbi now holds the best hand vs Garrett, so she does check her signal, looking at the same spot outside the poker room, confirming that she is not good, and she folds. I included this hand in my video just to explain the thought process. She is not cheating like Mike Postle, she doesn't have the same knowledge Mike did. She only knows her hand and whether she's good or not, so she will find herself putting money in drawing dead sometimes.
Finally, the J4 hand. We all know the hand pretty well. Garrett raises it up with 78c and Robbi quickly calls with J4o. The flop smashes Garrett 91010 with two clubs and a straight flush draw for Garrett. He bets a small 2500, and Robbi quickly calls without thinking much. The turn card is an offsuit 3, and Garrett bets 10k. We don't see it at this moment in the video, but it's easy to miss since the camera is not always on Robbi, but she checks her signal and finds out she's ahead. So, just like the hand earlier vs Eric P, she min raises the turn. Why? Because if she's being told that J high is good, Garrett will always fold to a min raise (or at least that what she thinks). So she tries it again, assuming it will always work, min raise to 20k. Now, action back on Garrett and he doesn't auto-fold, and he starts thinking. It's at this moment when Robbi makes the most damning statement of the whole video, she makes the comment out lout "Wait, hold on, let me scratch my face because that's the **** I have".... She says this while the action is on Garrett. What the hell does that statement mean? In my 15 years of dealing poker and my 20+ years of playing, I've never heard anyone say anything remotely close to that in the middle of a hand. It makes no sense. 99.9999% of all players are thinking about the hand, ranges, bluffs, equity, theory, etc... but not Robbi, she's thinking about scratching her face. Can it get any more obvious? She finds herself in a spot where she's made a play based on her signal, and it looks like Garrett is about to come back over the top, so she wants to re-confirm the signal that she's good. So, does she look for the signal? Absolutely, the proof is in the video. Immediately after making that outrageous statement, she looks in the exact spot she's always looking when she needs info. She gets the signal again, yep, she's good with J high. Okay, now Garrett shoves all in and Robbi can't believe it. She checks her hand again, clearly looking at it in the video. She makes a statement "I just want to call to see it".. In my opinion, she's trying to come up with an explanation as to how she can call with J high. This is a live stream though, you're gonna see it 30 mins from now, so why pay 100k to see it? The problem here is that neither Bryan or Robbi are good enough at poker to know that calling with J high is too suspicious. So Bryan is just giving the signals as he sees them, and Robbie is just playing her cards with the signal. They both let greed take over and Robbie makes the call. Garrett says "yikes, I prefer once but it's up to you". Robbi is smiling hardcore, because she knows she's ahead, but of what? No matter what Garrett is holding, he certainly has outs, doesn't matter what his hand is, he has outs. So, Robbie elects to run it twice because she knows she can't be that big of a favorite. So they run it twice, and Robbi wins both runouts. Now at this point, Garrett professionally announces "I have 8 high".. and Robbi, without looking back at her cards tables her hand and immediately says, "wow, Garrett how many times are you going to let me do this to you". She was not at all shocked at her hand being J4, where if she thought she had a three, that would be the time to say, "oh my, I thought I had a 3", but she didn't say anything like that. She proudly claims that Garrett is letting her do this to him. She shows her hand and takes pride in the fact that she just correctly called with J4 in a spot that is impossible for anyone to do so.
Now, after the hand, Robbi is fumbling over her words. She says things like "I thought you had A high". Okay, so why call with J high? Then she says "first of all, little bit of a straight draw, I have blockers"... which makes absolutely no sense. We are talking about the action on the turn. Yes, on the flop you had a little bit of a straight draw, and you had a key card in the J of clubs, but on the turn, when Garrett shoves, you have a **** hand. Which by the way, she actually announces that also. She says, "I have a **** hand". If she thought she had a pair of 3s, that would not qualify as a **** hand. She says, "I have a pure bluff catcher"... no she doesn't, she loses to more than half of Garrett's bluffs. She is just fumbling over her words because she can't explain herself.
After the hand, Robbi gives Garrett back the money. Why? Well, she was just a pawn in this cheating scandal. She was recruited by Rip and Bryan, and now it appears the scam is falling apart as Garrett makes a scene. He is so confident that he was cheated, or that something wasn't right, that he stops playing. Because of Garrett's actions, Robbie is panicking, thinking she may get caught. So, giving the money back may be the best way to avoid going to jail. After all, getting caught here would be a felony charge. She gave the money back because she was scared of getting caught, no other reason. If that were me, and I somehow made the best call I've ever made for 135k, I am not giving the money back ever. I earned it. But she doesn't feel that way. She is not proud of herself. She feels guilty and ashamed, so she gives it back. Now, this pisses off Rip and Bryan. Obviously we see Rip goes nuts, screaming and yelling that Garrett made her give the money back. Garrett can't make her give the money back, that's not how it works. Rip is pissed because that was 50% his money that she gave back. Bryan is upset also, because about 15k of that was his, so what does Bryan do, he comes out and just takes the 15k.
The proof is in the video I posted on youtube. I clearly show every time Robbi needs to check for her signal, and I pause the video to show where her eyes are going specifically when she needs information. Her eyes going to the same spot every time is as damning as Mike Postle checking his crotch to look at his phone. The statement she makes about scratching her face is so obviously a plea for help in the middle of the hand. When you put everything together, in my mind, it leaves 0 doubt that she was cheating.
Please watch my video on youtube to physically see every point I make. Thank you for reading.
Hello all. My first post on here. My name is Chester Mead. I am a poker dealer for more than 15 years and a poker player of more than 23 years. I believe I have noticed some things about the Garrett vs Robbi hand that no one else is really talking about. I created a video on youtube that I hope you guys will watch.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2jWeVG8S...If you don't
Excellent write up, and makes sense. But I prefer to take the position of "who the hell knows." Certitude is a sign of stupidity for most anything, and more importantly, I like to think of Robbi Jade Lew as a true force of nature in the grand tradition of Teddy Iceman Monroe, The King and Samuel Keke. The Mt. Rushmore of poker players if you will.
Looking forward to Garret's book. Sometimes bad events yield positive results and perhaps this was all for the good--for every party--in the grand scheme of things. It provided endless fodder no doubt, which is the best form of entertainment.
I've seen so many terrible takes on this situation, it's somewhat clear that she misread her hand as J♣ 3x and plays her hand that way, both in her betting/calling actions and her speech that aligns almost perfectly with a misread. She had been trying to "own" Garrett all night, going out of her way to get involved and not be pushed around with the perceived HC Live all-star. Ov
There is no way that anyone in the booth, all of whom have watched at least hundreds of hours of HCL and would have a general idea of how poker is played, would ever consider that this would have been a good spot to cheat in. Keep in mind that Robbi, while ahead in terms of raw hand strength, was still only 46.9% to win the hand given the knowledge of the dead cards (she was 54
Are there two posts I made in the Garrett thread that pretty much explain exactly what happened. If you start with the premise that she misread her hand as J3 then you don't have to jump through a single other hoop for almost anything and everything to make sense involving the hand.
Not as good of a point as you think it is as the same logic would apply to j3 ie why gamble it up if you are taking a shot in a huge game and you only have 2 bullets...Its not like the guy is drawing dead vs j3
I dont remember all the details anymore but my initial reaction was that there was definitely something suspicious going on.
i dunno what the debate on this even is , i like the way you have described it in your video
its clear that something is not right in that game, and its like you said its 0/1 good/bad , thats all the info she needs against some of the best players in the world, if they outdraw her then its luck but if she gets it in good its all posititives for online/media/career/influencer status
anyone not thinking she was up to no good here really must get rail roaded daily
Not as good of a point as you think it is as the same logic would apply to j3 ie why gamble it up if you are taking a shot in a huge game and you only have 2 bullets...Its not like the guy is drawing dead vs j3
I dont remember all the details anymore but my initial reaction was that there was definitely something suspicious going on.
lol. she's not gambling it up , its not her money. she's a rote amateur clicking buttons, this isn't even interesting other than it was big (fake) money and on stream. ive seen worse plays than this 1000 times on hand misreads in big games where everyone was a seasoned player and playing with their own money. they people who think robby was some sort of master cheat who orchestrated this amazing set up probably also think the wold is flat.
This whole issue doesn't pass the smell test. Someone at this level misreading their hand (she looks at her cards repeatedly) calling with bottom pair or calling an all in with Jack high isn't plausible to me at all. If it doesn't smell right, it is probably rotten.
So stupid thread, she misread hand, tried to beat Garrett with a pair, if she really knew his cards she wouldn’t fade all his outs. Garrett goes into this long drawn out butthurt phase of poor me, I was cheated. You lost one hand bro, get over yourself.
bottom line is the equities were nearly 50/50 if you have such an edge you dont call off in that spot. there is no way the rfid reads the turn and river cards before they are dealt hasnt existed yet
Garrett has the most enthusiastic fans of any player and this poster must fall in that group. Look at all that text!
The whole thing is too fishy, they had a leak in the backroom and it was possible to cheat the game was the conclusion. They had a guy working in the backroom with live feed randomly steal off robbies stack aswell during this, which makes it even more weird.
I think Garrett put it best when asked by Doug months later saying she now just plays nitty scared money poker not the type to grab her balls and make a massive hero call.
I think the fact that you cant prove it is almost useless here. It really doesnt mean anything as proving it can easily just be impossible. A bit like asking Robbie to prove she didnt cheat.
Are there two posts I made in the Garrett thread that pretty much explain exactly what happened. If you start with the premise that she misread her hand as J3 then you don't have to jump through a single other hoop for almost anything and everything to make sense involving the hand.
Starting with the premise that she misread her hand is jumping through a hoop in itself though, and it ignores other key pieces of information. When she exposes her hand, she never once makes a comment that she thought she had a pair of 3's. Providing that explanation in real time would easily calm Garrett down. Instead, she says "How many times are you going to let me do this to you?" Then tabling her hand proudly, never once appearing shocked that she doesn't have a 3.
It also ignores the fact that she makes the statement "Hold on, let me scratch my face because that's the **** I have"...
Tell me one time in your poker career, or anyone you know, who is thinking about that during a huge hand. It's a clear plea for help, followed by her immediately glancing in the same spot where she always looks specifically and precisely when she needs information in a hand.
If we start with the premise that Mike Postle always had a bad headache and he was only putting his head down because his head hurt, we could assume Mike Postle never cheated.
So stupid thread, she misread hand, tried to beat Garrett with a pair, if she really knew his cards she wouldn’t fade all his outs. Garrett goes into this long drawn out butthurt phase of poor me, I was cheated. You lost one hand bro, get over yourself.
If she misread her hand then why not explain that to Garrett instead of give the money back? Garrett would have immediately accepted and understood that explanation as valid.... but it didn't happen like that. She decided to give him his money back instead of provide an explanation of a misread hand. Doesn't make a bit of sense.
Really well put. Almost any serious player that has played millions of hands is in agreement that cheating was highly likely. But there’s still so many poker players whose poker IQ isn’t as high that can’t see the big picture. They’re blinded by t*ts and a quasi pretty face. There’s a mountain of circumstantial evidence, for example her immediate reaction after tabling the cards, that all point to cheating. But none taken individually are a smoking gun
I would say the theft from a guy in the backroom off Robbi's stack is the best circumstantial evidence.
If it is just random theft that would be a big coincidence.
Really well put. Almost any serious player that has played millions of hands is in agreement that cheating was highly likely. But there’s still so many poker players whose poker IQ isn’t as high that can’t see the big picture. They’re blinded by t*ts and a quasi pretty face. There’s a mountain of circumstantial evidence, for example her immediate reaction after tabling the card
+1
A fish is never calling with Jack high ,ever. A fish either shoves as a bluff or folds.
Robbi was introduced to HCL by a guy named Beans. I forget his real name but he went to prison for doing one of those Covid scams he was also a suspect in the Bellagio casino robbery.
Why'd this random lady who tried to parlay the infamy of this hand from playing nosebleed stakes hover around the poker world to never play nearly as high again afterwards when she surely has the social capital to get into these games + all the attention she clearly enjoys? Why does she hang around the live scene playing low stakes tournaments where she will get zero recognition?
I remember back when this happened I had looked into her, because she likes to push the idea that she's rich. But obviously all of that plastic and keeping up with the joneses lifestyle gets expensive.
I don't remember the specifics but she had a job that paid well, and then had moved to another company/position and back then my research showed that the new job paid significantly less than her prior one, might have even been half what she had been making. So in my mind there was a money motivation for her to cheat given what I had looked into.
Not to mention, even wealthy people can steal because they have a compulsion or they like the thrill of it. Wynona Rider had been stealing from stores if I remember correctly ages ago.
There was also the issue of her and her husband threatening to sue anyone who slandered her, but then when there's actual video evidence of a guy who literally stole 15 grand from her stack suddenly she "doesn't want to press charges" and then Bryan mysteriously disappears and can't be found.
Bryan had a lot of gambling debt if I recall correctly. So it makes sense that he'd be desperate to be in on a scheme where he can collect a payday helping them cheat.
Likewise, when she gives the money back, now he's worried he won't get paid despite putting in the work, so he takes it upon himself to collect his cut.
And the argument "oh, NO ONE would cheat in that spot, it doesn't make any sense" doesn't grasp that criminals don't always think logically. They will make mistakes because of hubris (i.e. they think they're invincible and won't get caught), or desperation.
Why'd this random lady who tried to parlay the infamy of this hand from playing nosebleed stakes hover around the poker world to never play nearly as high again afterwards when she surely has the social capital to get into these games + all the attention she clearly enjoys? Why does she hang around the live scene playing low stakes tournaments where she will get zero recognitio
Obviously her incredible call outed her as the greatest player ever and can no longer get High stakes action.
No one will ever be able to prove Robbi cheated.
No one should ever believe she didn’t.
