[extracted] New(?) 9-11 stuff

[extracted] New(?) 9-11 stuff

KSM got a plea deal. The guy who supposedly masterminded the 9/11 attacks is not getting the death penalty.

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01 August 2024 at 05:08 PM
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by d2_e4

I particularly enjoy how Billy explains to us about infinite flat Earth and nearby electric sun and hoax space missions and directed energy weapons as though these things are all self evident, and we are the donkeys for not having figured all this out for ourselves.

No but you could at least see what is speculation and what is observable fact or deduction.

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by 1&onlybillyshears

No but you could at least see what is speculation and what is observable fact or deduction.

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I'm struggling to buy into infinite flat Earth until you explain why we haven't discovered any new land masses or bodies of water on its surface for centuries. This seems to be a slight problem with your thesis.


by d2_e4

I'm struggling to buy into infinite flat Earth until you explain why we haven't discovered any new land masses or bodies of water on its surface for centuries. This seems to be a slight problem with your thesis.

It was you who posited an infinite plane. I merely asked if there was some fundamental problem with an infinite plane. Suddenly this is my "thesis".

Of course, we know why. To avoid the twin debacles of curvature* and Al-fail.

*never been verifiably observed. Ever.

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by 1&onlybillyshears

It was you who posited an infinite plane. I merely asked if there was some fundamental problem with an infinite plane. Suddenly this is my "thesis".

Of course, we know why. To avoid the twin debacles of curvature* and Al-fail.

*never been verifiably observed. Ever.

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This is significant.

Let this sink in.

There is no evidence of Earth curve. Not a shred. There is no reproducible observation of Earth curve in existence. No photograph of Earth curvature that can be reproduced by any individual or group (outside of the miltary-industrial nexus).

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A colleague was excited about Artemis, and knowing I am interested in physics assumed I would share in the glorious New Horizon. I just didn't have the heart. I just had to play along as much as possible. You just don't tell a fundamentalist their religion is fake, particularly if they think you are one of them. What kind of response would it generate?

Ah well I'm glad I have got that off my chest anyway.

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by d2_e4

If you mean the model where Adam and Eve had a big bang, you'd need to talk to geezerchess about that.

THIS!!!


Quick question for BillyBarty: If the Earth is not infinite, does it have edges?

(For those who don't know, Billy Barty was an actor and [strike] a midget[/strike] vertically challenged.)


by 1&onlybillyshears

Sure ill take a link.

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Article from Answers in Genesis: "Could God Really Have Created Everything in Six Days?"


by 1&onlybillyshears

A colleague was excited about Artemis, and knowing I am interested in physics assumed I would share in the glorious New Horizon. I just didn't have the heart. I just had to play along as much as possible. You just don't tell a fundamentalist their religion is fake, particularly if they think you are one of them. What kind of response would it generate?Ah well I'm glad I have go

Very wise on your part. For sure -EV for you if they learned the truth about you being a total nut-job.


by 1&onlybillyshears

It was you who posited an infinite plane. I merely asked if there was some fundamental problem with an infinite plane. Suddenly this is my "thesis".

Of course, we know why. To avoid the twin debacles of curvature* and Al-fail.

*never been verifiably observed. Ever.

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by 1&onlybillyshears

This is significant.

Let this sink in.

There is no evidence of Earth curve. Not a shred. There is no reproducible observation of Earth curve in existence. No photograph of Earth curvature that can be reproduced by any individual or group (outside of the miltary-industrial nexus).

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Fascinating.


Billy, I started a GoFundMe to send you out into space so you can see the big beautiful round Earth for yourself and I linked it to this thread. The good news is that we've already reached our goal! The bad news is it's on the condition that we don't bring you back.


by 1&onlybillyshears

This is significant.

Let this sink in.

There is no evidence of Earth curve. Not a shred. There is no reproducible observation of Earth curve in existence. No photograph of Earth curvature that can be reproduced by any individual or group (outside of the miltary-industrial nexus).

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Billy, there is no photograph of flat earth that can be reproduced by any individual at all - so you're not even matching toe to toe on that front.

But genuine question? Can anyone go see the ice wall? I assume we not allowed. Where is it? Is it literally a wall of ice and if we head that direction do we eventually reach an area to where dudes concealing in suits tell us not go any further? I wouldn't assume that those guys know and there would have to be quite a bit of them ropeing things off. That seems problematic.


by geezerchess

Article from Answers in Genesis: "Could God Really Have Created Everything in Six Days?"

Exactly my point.

They say:

"When people accept at face value what Genesis is teaching and accept the days as ordinary days, they will have no problem accepting and making sense of the rest of the Bible.

Martin Luther once said:

I have often said that whoever would study Holy Scripture should be sure to see to it that he stays with the simple words as long as he can and by no means departs from them unless an article of faith compels him to understand them differently. For of this we must be certain: no clearer speech has been heard on Earth than what God has spoken.

Pure Words

God’s people need to realize that the Word of God is something very special. It is not just the words of men. As Paul said in 1 Thessalonians 2:13, “You received it not as the word of men, but as it is, truly the word of God.”

Proverbs 30:5–6 states that “every word of God is pure . . . . Do not add to His words, lest He reprove you and you be found a liar.” The Bible cannot be treated as just some great literary work. We need to “tremble at his word” (Isaiah 6:5)"

Very interesting isn't it. Martin Luther says

"stays with the simple words as long as he can and by no means departs from them UNLESS AN ARTICLE OF FAITH COMPELS HIM TO UNDERSTAND THEM DIFFERENTLY.

An "article of faith" ... could it be the Heliocentric Spinning Ball Relgion causing the righteous to veer from the path? Methinks aye.

Next let us see what the bible states about the Earth.

“Fear before him, all the earth: the world also shall be stable, that it be not moved.” (1 Chronicles 16:30)

Who laid the foundations of the earth, that it should not be removed for ever. (Psalms 104:1-5)

the world also shall be established that it shall not be moved: he shall judge the people righteously. (Psalms 96:9-10)

Then spake Joshua to the LORD in the day when the LORD delivered up the Amorites before the children of Israel, and he said in the sight of Israel, Sun, stand thou still upon Gibeon; and thou, Moon, in the valley of Ajalon. And the sun stood still, and the moon stayed, until the people had avenged themselves upon their enemies. Is not this written in the book of Jasher? So the sun stood still in the midst of heaven, and hasted not to go down about a whole day. (Joshua 10:12-13)

There we have it. The earth does not move. The sun and moon move around the earth.

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by formula72

Billy, there is no photograph of flat earth that can be reproduced by any individual at all - so you're not even matching toe to toe on that front.But genuine question? Can anyone go see the ice wall? I assume we not allowed. Where is it? Is it literally a wall of ice and if we head that direction do we eventually reach an area to where dudes concealing in suits tell us not g

What is the icewall? Where is it? Is it literally a wall of ice?

Do you often ask random questions to people or is this reserved for me?

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by 1&onlybillyshears

Photographic evidence does not once contradict a flat earth. (NASA etc are inadmissible for reasons stated earlier.)

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Can you expand on the "etc"? A quick search tells me that 70 countries have some sort of space programme. Are they all in on the fakery for that sweet government funding?

What about all the private companies? Scamming their investors?


Oh, and also, how does GPS (or would it be PPS?) work?


by geezerchess

Very wise on your part. For sure -EV for you if they learned the truth about you being a total nut-job.

Man, you know you gone done taken a wrong turn somewhere when lagtight actually has standing to call you a nutjob.


by 1&onlybillyshears

What is the icewall? Where is it? Is it literally a wall of ice?

Do you often ask random questions to people or is this reserved for me?

Earth is measured flat in every which way. Photographic evidence does not once contradict a flat earth. (NASA etc are inadmissible for reasons stated earlier.)

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I get he flat argument part. Im more interested in the wall. Its more of a curiosity in regards to water pressure. Do you have in ideas of what they may look or how they are designed?


by formula72

I get he flat argument part. Im more interested in the wall. Its more of a curiosity in regards to water pressure. Do you have in ideas of what they may look or how they are designed?

Note well that when you start asking Buckaroobilly tough questions, he deflects and distracts in a variety of ways. He's a master of wielding WMD's (Weapons of Mass Distraction).


by 1&onlybillyshears

Exactly my point.They say:"When people accept at face value what Genesis is teaching and accept the days as ordinary days, they will have no problem accepting and making sense of the rest of the Bible.Martin Luther once said:I have often said that whoever would study Holy Scripture should be sure to see to it that he stays with the simple words as long as he can and by no means

We discussed these verses earlier. The context is the believer being steadfast and firm in trusting God. (I say this knowing that concepts like 'context' are beyond your comprehension at this point in your life journey. )

Then spake Joshua to the LORD in the day when the LORD delivered up the Amorites before the children of Israel, and he said in the sight of Israel, Sun, stand thou still upon Gibeon; and thou, Moon, in the valley of Ajalon. And the sun stood still, and the moon stayed, until the people had avenged themselves upon their enemies. Is not this written in the book of Jasher? So the sun stood still in the midst of heaven, and hasted not to go down about a whole day. (Joshua 10:12-13)

There we have it. The earth does not move. The sun and moon move around the earth.

You have point. I mean, even the National Weather Service agrees with you: I just looked up what the local sunrise time is for me today.

But,seriously folks....

Another subtle concept that Billybooboo has trouble comprehending: Describing an event from the standpoint of the observer.*

*It is a description of a miraculous event to be sure.


by d2_e4

Can you expand on the "etc"? A quick search tells me that 70 countries have some sort of space programme. Are they all in on the fakery for that sweet government funding?

What about all the private companies? Scamming their investors?

"Some sort" does not usually include high enough altitude flight to perceive curvature. Many of the "space agencies" are an open joke, they are so obviously fake. NASA is obviously fake also, to an objective eye.

But yes it is a quick and easy soft power projection for governments.

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by 1&onlybillyshears

"Some sort" does not usually include high enough altitude flight to perceive curvature. Many of the "space agencies" are an open joke, they are so obviously fake. NASA is obviously fake also, to an objective eye.

But yes it is a quick and easy soft power projection for governments.

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All the world's space agencies are either fake, don't fly high enough (like, into space, I guess), or both. Got it.

And the private companies? Branson and Elon scamming their investors and the people who claim to have gone are paid actors? Well, Elon probably is scamming his investors, but that's neither here nor there.


by 1&onlybillyshears

"Some sort" does not usually include high enough altitude flight to perceive curvature. Many of the "space agencies" are an open joke, they are so obviously fake. NASA is obviously fake also, to an objective eye.

But yes it is a quick and easy soft power projection for governments.

But I thought we were supposed to trust Experts, not our lying eyes.

Oh, I forgot: We only trust Experts when they agree with you, but not when they disagree with you.

I don't think you ever answered this: How come ZERO folks affiliated closely with the Apollo missions ever admitted (even on their deathbed) that the moon landings were fake?


by d2_e4

All the world's space agencies are either fake, don't fly high enough (like, into space, I guess), or both. Got it.

And the private companies? Branson and Elon scamming their investors and the people who claim to have gone are paid actors? Well, Elon probably is scamming his investors, but that's neither here nor there.

You think we should ask Billy for his take on Sandy Hook?


by geezerchess

We discussed these verses earlier. The context is the believer being steadfast and firm in trusting God. (I say this knowing that concepts like 'context' are beyond your comprehension at this point in your life journey. )You have point. I mean, even the National Weather Service agrees with you: I just looked up what the local sunrise time is for me today.But,seriously folks

"We" did not discuss it. I quoted the written word you claim to follow and you interpreted it as something else, contrary to precisely the other Word you claim to follow - which is to not re-interpret the Word! Who told you that "earth" and "world" means "people"? That is a complete absurdity and against the very commandment made to you: do not screw around with the Word!

But what is the "miraculous event"?

Do you have it that the Earth stopped spinning and also the Moon stopped its orbit, presumably while Earth continued its orbit around the Sun?

Then you would be a heathen because you do not accept the word as it is written.

And you would be outcast from the Heliocentric Sphere Belief also. Because the laws of inertia and gravity, and more broadly the principle of Uniformity, do not allow such a thing to have happened.

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