Israel/Palestine thread
Think this merits its own thread...
Discuss my fellow 2+2ers..
AM YISRAEL CHAI.
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As an aside, I've never understood the "does x country have the right to exist?" thing, whether towards Israel or any other country.
It means they're too chickenshit to defend Israel's campaign of ethnic cleansing directly, so they resort to these convoluted euphemisms.
It means they're too chickenshit to defend Israel's campaign of ethnic cleansing directly, so they resort to these convoluted euphemisms.
This iteration of the discourse was started by someone anti-Israel who said Israel didn’t have a right to exist. As usual you are being sloppy.
Spoiler: Graphic
Spoiler
So in Gaza a few men stepped on a planted Hamas IED, and of course Hamas released the footage claiming it was an "Israeli airstrike". Notice the camera is pointed directly at the spot and doesn't even budge, meaning it was fixed to record the bomb killing someone (presumably it was supposed to be IDF).
The wild thing is that Hamas proudly admits that they booby trapped the entire Gaza Strip, to make it a killing field for Israeli troops (their claim). And it is statically impossible that these booby traps aren't killing/maiming thousands of Gaza civilians. And will be doing so for years to come. The only way to actually clear all the booby traps is to completely destroy an area, setting them all off. Which is what the IDF systematically does when they take control of an area.
And our own media just kind of shrugs and refuses to talk about it.
The Israeli project to cut the WB in half.
[URL="https://www.haaretz.com/middle-east-news/palestinians/2026-05-27/ty-article/.premium/the-four-steps-israel-is-taking-to-clear-palestinians-from-west-banks-e1/0000019e-6885-de90-a7be-faa77bab0000"]The Four Steps Israel Is Taking to Clear Palestinians From West Bank's E1 Area
From the establishment of a crowded Palestinian neighborhood expected to facilitate the expulsion of communities in the area, to a new road that keeps Palestinians out of the region – the Israeli effect could erase Palestinians from the area[/URL]
prompting Finance Minister Bezalel Smotrich to state that "the Palestinian state is being erased – not with slogans, but with actions."
they want to steal the land and kill the natives to extend the pedophile rape colony.
https://x.com/davidsheen/status/20596556...
imagine supporting this "country"
As an aside, I've never understood the "does x country have the right to exist?" thing, whether towards Israel or any other country.As far as I can tell, a "right" is just a usually unwritten and often ill-defined suggestion (originally wrote "rule", but that's inaccurate) which is deemed to be beneficial to humans and is assumed that some critical mass of people implicitly agr
Cliffs: Rights don't exist independent of what a bunch of old dudes say.
Much more importantly, Israel should stop murdering people en masse, but the pro-murder crowd ain't changing their stance on that any time soon, so here we are.
I thought you just said it's old dudes who decide what rights are. Seems to me, based on YOUR understanding of rights, the old dudes can murder anybody they want.
It’s a defensible position what you just put forth. It’s why I was asking what the poster who said “Israel doesn’t have a right to exist” what he means by rights. I appreciate you explaining what rights means to you, because under that construal, neither Israel or Palestine has a right to exist.The only reason to use that phraseology is to borrow from the liberal worldview whic
An instance of the so-called "Boo/Hooray Theory of Ethics" (i.e. Ethical Emotivism).
This iteration of the discourse was started by someone anti-Israel who said Israel didn’t have a right to exist. As usual you are being sloppy.
To be fair to my good friend Trolly, for whatever reason none his posts can excede two sentences. Given that restriction, I think he does quite well.
they want to steal the land and kill the natives to extend the pedophile rape colony.https://x.com/davidsheen/status/20596556...imagine supporting this "country"
Imagine blindly believing these stories. I’ll be there in a couple weeks and will verify the lies.
I dont need to be Islamic to oppose mass child rape and genocide. and ofc you dont need to be a Jew to support those things. but both are at the forefront of the respective activities aforementioned.
Do you guy’s think that the reason people hate Jews/Israel is that Israel points a mirror back at them. It lets them see their jealousy. It makes them feel not good enough. It’s a sad existence for Palestinians. They have no motivation to change their ways. Arab states are pretty much done with the Palestinian cause. Imagine knowing you have no future. Imagine wondering why did the Israelis get everything. Why are the Israelis so much more successful. I’d be bitter too but I’d recognize that radical Islam is not the way.
I dont need to be Islamic to oppose mass child rape and genocide. and ofc you dont need to be a Jew to support those things. but both are at the forefront of the respective activities aforementioned.
I want to know where your hate comes from. It’s not normal. It’s not healthy. Maybe you have a personal experience you’d like to share.
I want to know where your hate comes from. It’s not normal. It’s not healthy. Maybe you have a personal experience you’d like to share.
I just dont like watching children get slaughtered. even if the chosen people are doing it.
Pushing for mass departures violates Donald Trump’s ceasefire plan for Gaza, which Israel signed last year. The second point of the plan states: “Gaza will be redeveloped for the benefit of the people of Gaza, who have suffered more than enough.”
A guy said that Palestinians can emigrate from Gaza voluntarily and the Guardian looses its mind. Amazing.
Your guys' communist overlord seems to have only the fat chicks and the unwashed basement dwellers
Hasan Piker's net favorability:
Living Situation:
With Children -49% (0% favorability)
With Parents +30%
Ruh Roh
A guy said that Palestinians can emigrate from Gaza voluntarily and the Guardian looses its mind. Amazing.
Are you serious? Remnant malnourished people living in rubble are "voluntary" emigres?
And that "guy" is the minister in charge.
Are you serious? Remnant malnourished people living in rubble are "voluntary" emigres?
And that "guy" is the minister in charge.
Remnant malnourished people living in rubble are being given an opportunity to leave voluntarily, no one is forcing them to. Previously they had travel restrictions.
I’d say if I was a Palestinian I would happily leave. Wouldn’t you?
Cliffs: Rights don't exist independent of what a bunch of old dudes say.
I thought you just said it's old dudes who decide what rights are. Seems to me, based on YOUR understanding of rights, the old dudes can murder anybody they want.
This would be a gotcha if only I had ever equated rights and morality. Israel should stop murdering en masse because murder is (almost always) immoral. It's not a question of rights, fundamentally. There's nothing incongruous with thinking "rights" are merely "neat suggestions on how to treat people" while understanding that Israel is committing genocide and regarding that as immoral.
Remnant malnourished people living in rubble are being given an opportunity to leave voluntarily, no one is forcing them to.
You are a genocidal monster.
