I have one of David Sklansky’s 1982 WSOP watches — curious what it’s worth
I ended up with something pretty unusual and figured this might be the right place to ask about it.
About two years ago I
I had it when the pawn star said the watch would be worth more than scrap without Davids inscription. Maybe people find it creepy with personal items like that.
No one cares about TJ Cloutier (No offense to him), but like I said there are a number of players who could sell their bracelets for more than scrap weight in gold. An Ivey Bracelet for example would sell for 2x weight of gold. Im not insinuating that any of these bracelets are priceless or anything like that , but you underestimate the amount of poker fans. Also, I believe Mon
No chance
I would take any -1000 dollars as an investment, think gold price is falling.
Sad to think about it, only sellable bracelet would be Moneymaker's. With Hellmut's ME as a wild card.
Accurate. I've been quite heavily invested into live auctioning for years now so I have a pretty good feel for how this **** goes.
Names just hardly ever matter whatsoever unless you are looking at peak names. Sklansky is just a "who?" to the general public. I'm sure that if you could find a very specific person in this circumstance you could get more than melt value but you could start to say that about literally anything at that rate and that's generally not how the world operates.
In general, his watch would prob fetch slightly under melt or who knows. But certainly no premium under any normal circumstances.
Sad to think about it, only sellable bracelet would be Moneymaker's. With Hellmut's ME as a wild card.
Accurate. I've been quite heavily invested into live auctioning for years now so I have a pretty good feel for how this **** goes.Names just hardly ever matter whatsoever unless you are looking at peak names. Sklansky is just a "who?" to the general public. I'm sure that if you
How much for Moneymaker then?
I’d take the way under that 1M
Generally speaking I would think almost the entire poker universe is a “who?”
How much for Moneymaker then
I'd take the way under that 1M
Generally speaking I would think almost the entire poker universe is a "who"
I bet Moneymaker could get scrap, which isn't little for the ME, times two.
approximately 130 to 140 grams of 10-karat to 18-karat gold
x $130 ~ 70x130 ~ $10,000.
So say $20,000.
How much for Moneymaker then
I'd take the way under that 1M
Generally speaking I would think almost the entire poker universe is a "who"
Something like that definitely starts to accrue value. But it's hard to say with one-off specials like this. Because it all just depends who the buyers are. I wouldn't even try to place a value estimate myself. You can have auction estimates that say value something at $200k-400k and then go on a mini run and sell for $1.5m. Happens all the time. Similarly, they will open at $200k and get zero bids. It's just tough to know because it's all speculative value and it mostly depends who is online and even knows it's for sale.
I live in Switzerland and deal primarily with the auction houses here. So I have a feel for the stuff sold in this country. Which has some gambling material and I will buy it, but I don't exactly have extensive specific experience with gambling stuff in general since it's by and large not sold here.
Funnily enough, I do own Charlie Chaplin's roulette table (the one he used to own). It's one of the few things I own of the 200-300 or so objects I've purchased from live auctions that is attached to a famous name. The table itself is ridiculously cool (imo) on it's own right. And if I asked you to put a price tag on it, you or most people here would probably just have no idea.
I paid 4,200 CHF + ~25% hammer.
Bottom line is ultimately though, outside of the peak famous names and peak items (Helmuth, Ivey, Moneymaker... some others) and the situation/story behind something, names just don't have much value. And it really depends on a multitude of factors. Namely who the rich people who are willing to punt on the speculative value which is less common than is probably popular belief (like the OP of this thread).