The Democratic Party's Slide Into Irrelevance
Attaching a poll ... Dems unfavorability rating increased from 45% to 57% during the Biden Administration.
"with the development of exchange it fixes itself firmly and exclusively onto particular kinds of commodity, i.e. it crystallizes out into the money-form"
- Das Kapital, Vol. 1, 182:1
Google search indicates shekels we're used in Mesopotamia 5,000 years ago, which is roughly the latter half of settled human existence
Nut, if you don't want politics to be subsumed by identity grievance, maybe don't insist that political figures call each other out as race traitors.
Common political identity grievance is interracial. Black v white, Male v female. Christian v non-Christian.
I'm exploring the Machiavellian divide and conquer associated with the people who herd us into tribal identities.
If the Democratic Party is failing to succeed nationally as a result of the ability of Uncle Toms like Obama, Clyburn and Lewis to herd black voters into supporting neoliberal policy, then we need to be able to discuss that ..... however uncomfortable that conversation might be.
I'm a citizen. I feel that Obama is a traitor to far more than his race. I voted for him and he's been a huge disappointment. In terms of political obstacles to the policies which I advocate for, my perception is that his presence is the greatest obstacle. I'm not ashamed to call it like I see it.
I accept the blowback which comes with my position. But I'm not here to win a popularity contest. I'm just being authentic.
Obama has made it very clear that he opposed Sanders who is simply the avatar for progressive policy like Medicare for All which enjoys majority support among the American public.
Where is Obama's resistance to Trump?
It's pretty clear that rich people pay Obama $1m / hr for his ongoing political influence. That and to make sure that future Democrats know what is required to get their share of the grift.
Not a single soul on this forum has anything laudatory to say about Democrats ..... they just bitch about the GOP as being worse.
"people who herd us into tribal identities"
I'm really not qualified to be the resident Marxist, but it seems to me that tribal identity is more emergent from material conditions, cultural history, etc than constructed by stump speeches and press conferences.
That said, I'd like politicians to bridge the divide, not press upon it.
Systemic racism is something to be cognizant of, not something to parade around on a banner.
I'm really not qualified to be the resident Marxist, but it seems to me that tribal identity is more emergent from material conditions
this alone makes you an excellent marxist imo
It's not a different argument. You're arguing that getting rid of money is not realistic because it has existed consistently for the last several thousand years. It's a perfectly "normal" argument on your part. Most people agree with you. But most people don't comprehend the consequences of the status quo. They don't comprehend tipping points in which systems that have thousand
If you take the time to read what CRD actually wrote, thet bolded is clearly NOT what he was arguing.
Fetterman preparing to switch parties ..... he knows he can't win a Democratic primary again. Can he win as a Gooper ?
Fetterman preparing to switch parties ..... he knows he can't win a Democratic primary again. Can he win as a Gooper ?
good riddance
It's not a different argument.
You're arguing that getting rid of money is not realistic because it has existed consistently for the last several thousand years. It's a perfectly "normal" argument on your part. Most people agree with you.
What I was saying is that you are deducing from a past cashless society to the possibility of a future cashless society. But actually this is a faulty deduction because you can’t just point to something we have been doing for x thousand of years and from there deduce that it’s normative. Namely there could be reasons why it won’t work such as changing circumstances, or if it could work that it wouldn’t be fine because it requires worse social arrangements than what we have now.
It’s a criticism of the form of your argument. You need supplemental reasoning to make it work, but those supplemental reasonings are actually the crux of the argument. It wouldn’t be because we were doing it in the past that we can return to it in the future, it would be for some other reason, if at all.
It wouldn’t be because we were doing it in the past that we can return to it in the future, it would be for some other reason, if at all.
I've been providing that "other reason" ad nauseum.
Money has been coupled with the freedom to pollute and that pollution is cresting to a level which will soon overwhelm human civilization.
I don't have a problem with money staying around in some reduced capacity. I prefer a system with some incentives.
I've been providing that "other reason" ad nauseum.
Money has been coupled with the freedom to pollute and that pollution is cresting to a level which will soon overwhelm human civilization.
I don't have a problem with money staying around in some reduced capacity. I prefer a system with some incentives.
Yeah but you also provided a bad reason, which is what I responded to.
That's not a reason for why we will let go of money.
That's an explanation of how we are capable of living without it.
But it’s fallacious reasoning, as I said. We had slavery for thousands of years and the societies that had it were often comparably better off than the ones that didn’t, that doesn’t mean we’ll be fine if we bring back slavery.
We had slavery for thousands of years and the societies that had it were often comparably better off than the ones that didn’t
were they tho?
crd, I'd venture the slavery was the result and not the cause of societies' comparative betterness* over time.
Nut, money is store and exchange. We aren't ever** getting rid of it. An important word is 'fungible' in assessing the true value of money, apart from the immediate wealth it may represent.
everybody has to eat.
everybody eats, everybody works.
at least, that's how it is supposed to be. feels fair, anyway.
