The Democratic Party's Slide Into Irrelevance
Attaching a poll ... Dems unfavorability rating increased from 45% to 57% during the Biden Administration.
honestly I hadn't even seen your prior post and I responded in isolation. sorry about that.
Here's what you said beforehand:
What I was saying is that you are deducing from a past cashless society to the possibility of a future cashless society. But actually this is a faulty deduction because you can’t just point to something we have been doing for x thousand of years and from there deduce that it’s normative. Namely there could be reasons why it won’t work such as changing circumst
Paraphrasing (and contextualizing), "slavery worked then but we wouldn't go for it now" so we wouldn't reimplement slavery.
and afterwards:
The pattern was that the developed cultures had slaves and the isolated ones with little technology and resources didn’t.
But let’s say it wasn’t true for the sake of argument. If it were true, would that mean that slavery is suddenly something we should bring back?
the reason to forego the benefits of slavery is moral
does kinda indicate maybe a causal rather than resultant connection? I'm not totally sober right now and it's late, so sorry if I'm misreading.
Great, so by your logic then because slavery has been such a longstanding practice of humanity then we should keep doing slavery.
My logic says that we should get rid of money which has a legacy as long as slavery.
There is nothing in that which implies that I wish to preserve the institution of slavery. That's entirely a manifestation of the darkness of your heart.
Fetterman preparing to switch parties ..... he knows he can't win a Democratic primary again. Can he win as a Gooper ?
Huh?
Literally the first sentence of the article:
Sen. John Fetterman, D-Pa., said he has no plans to leave the Democratic Party, but he would be forced to if the party turns its back on U.S. support for Israel, The Hill reported.
Amazin'!
honestly I hadn't even seen your prior post and I responded in isolation. sorry about that.Here's what you said beforehand:Paraphrasing (and contextualizing), "slavery worked then but we wouldn't go for it now" so we wouldn't reimplement slavery.and afterwards:the reason to forego the benefits of slavery is moraldoes kinda indicate maybe a causal rather than resultant connecti
What I’m trying to intuition pump with those candidate counterarguments is that the inference from we used to do this thing and were fine to we can bring this thing back is a faulty inference. There’s nothing normative about what we used to do in the past.
I didn’t want to get into the weeds about why I thought my first analogy was fine, so I chose a different analogy that I thought would be pretty easy to agree with. Just because there was a history of past slavery and society was by and large fine (as in it didn’t go extinct, which is Nut Nut’s normative obsession) doesn’t mean it would work to bring it back.
You could be pro-slavery and still affirm that. Maybe you’re pro-slavery all things being equal and think in an ideal world, we would have slavery, but instrumentally you oppose slavery in the actual world because you know if we brought it back 99% of people would be against it, causing there to be mass chaos and riots.
Someone that is anti-money in an ideal world could take that same position.
I have a hard enough time w/ class guilt asking the grocery clerk not to mix meats while bagging.
The pattern was that the developed cultures had slaves and the isolated ones with little technology and resources didn’t.
But let’s say it wasn’t true for the sake of argument. If it were true, would that mean that slavery is suddenly something we should bring back?
huh? nobody is arguing the bolded.
I took contention with this part
We had slavery for thousands of years and the societies that had it were often comparably better off than the ones that didn’t
Right, and it wouldn't matter as much as people think even if we did because when the kids start taking their labor vouchers down to the comic con, the guy holding the Action Comics 1 isn't going to except the same amount of vouchers as the dude trading his Alpha Flights. The market is going to emerge regardless.
