In other news

In other news

In the current news climate we see that some figures and events tend to dominate the front-pages heavily. Still, there a

12 October 2020 at 08:13 AM
Reply...

14494 Replies


Earlier posts are available on our legacy forum HERE

ANYHOO


by jalfrezi

As usual on matters of foreign affairs, you’re wrong.Americans can’t deal with their previously hallowed but now failed constitution that Trumps driven a juggernaut through and are resorting to talking shyte about the UK constitution, parts of which are written of course, like parts of common law that includes Magna Carta and the bill of rights etc, and various acts of parliame

“Parts of it are written” so parts of it also are unwritten, and which written works are part of it are part of the unwritten parts, which can be changed at a whim.

I think you guys just don’t understand the concept.


by checkraisdraw

“Parts of it are written” so parts of it also are unwritten, and which written works are part of it are part of the unwritten parts, which can be changed at a whim.

I think you guys just don’t understand the concept.

The once-great British Empire has been shrinking for 75 years and seems on course to become an Islamic state in a generation.


by geezerchess

The once-great British Empire has been shrinking for 75 years and seems on course to become an Islamic state in a generation.

There’s an unwritten part of their constitution that prevents that, surely


lets write things down and then pretend to ourselves that that prevents anything

Sure it is nice to know trump can't do anything 'unconstitutional'. It's impossible 'cos we have this piece of paper.


by chezlaw

lets write things down and then pretend to ourselves that that prevents anything

Sure it is nice to know trump can't do anything 'unconstitutional'. It's impossible 'cos we have this piece of paper.

No one ever said that having a written constitution means people won’t be able to do unconstitutional things. It just means that the things that it prescribes are normative, and clearly so.

If congress makes an unconstitutional law, the law will still exist until it’s struck down. Yes the people effected can try to get a remedy, but it’s weird to act like the point is only to prevent and not also to remedy or to lay out process/procedure.


Yes it's clearly whatever the 'wise men' say it is

and so easy to amend when centuries old stuff seems oddly out of date

Vastly superior.


Amend what? You’re just deciding to do something different. There’s nothing to amend.


the written bit. either it's effectively written in stone which would obviously be ridiculous or it has to be changed over time

but whatever the written words say, the meaning is down to 'wise men'

still it's nice to look at and very reassuring


by chezlaw

the written bit. either it's effectively written in stone which would obviously be ridiculous or it has to be changed over time

but whatever the written words say, the meaning is down to 'wise men'

still it's nice to look at and very reassuring

Obvious false dichotomy.


no it's just a bit nitty on your part.

I think you can grasp the point if you remotely want to


by chezlaw

no it's just a bit nitty on your part.

I think you can grasp the point if you remotely want to

American constitution has changed significantly, there’s a process to change it. It’s not set in stone, but the revisions are transparent and so is what needs to be revised.

Also most of the issue with Trump isn’t what he doesn’t follow in the written portions of the constitution, it’s his lack of interest in upkeeping the “unwritten norms” that you’re so strongly defending (which as enforcement mechanisms are worth the paper they are not written on).


Next time chezlaw and I make a verbal agreement, I want it in writing!


by geezerchess

Next time chezlaw and I make a verbal agreement, I want it in writing!

You're better off dealing wiht people where it's the verbal agreement that amtters.

Sometimes you need writing but that's mostly for the lawyers. If you rely on the piece of paper to decide who to deal with then you better have an army of lawyers to scrutinise it before you agree anything with anyone.


by checkraisdraw

American constitution has changed significantly, there’s a process to change it. It’s not set in stone, but the revisions are transparent and so is what needs to be revised.Also most of the issue with Trump isn’t what he doesn’t follow in the written portions of the constitution, it’s his lack of interest in upkeeping the “unwritten norms” that you’re so strongly defending (whi

'effectively' was doing some important work. putting it in writing didn't seem to help

your point about trump is the problem. When the written, piece of paper is worshiped, you undermine the bit that actually matters. The focus is on on the old bit of paper interpreted by the 'wise men' so the political action is on the 'wise men'.


by chezlaw

You're better off dealing wiht people where it's the verbal agreement that amtters.

Sometimes you need writing but that's mostly for the lawyers

Interesting. How’s your confidence in your representation in this system where your trust (verbal agreement) is what matters most?

If I have a contract and a competent court system, I don’t need to engage in life by relying solely on someone’s word (though it does help).


by checkraisdraw

Interesting. How’s your confidence in your representation in this system where your trust (verbal agreement) is what matters most?

If I have a contract and a competent court system, I don’t need to engage in life by relying solely on someone’s word (though it does help).

Limited confidence.

Contract with a decent court system is very useful of course. However so many cases occur because both sides think they know what the contract means. And the court system is much more competent for the side with the more expensive lawyers.

on a side note I've only personally been in court once - a hilarious small claims court case where among many other gems the berk said 'chezlaw was very fair' and finished with 'If i was him I'd have sued me as well'


this is definitely the type of sassy look you want to rock whilst heading to prison

he is going to mog cell block B

did he borrow this outfit from shakira?



also my boy on the left thinks he is lara croft what is up with the thigh hardware hope he doesn't have to side strafe polygonal enemies


by chezlaw

You're better off dealing wiht people where it's the verbal agreement that amtters.

Sometimes you need writing but that's mostly for the lawyers. If you rely on the piece of paper to decide who to deal with then you better have an army of lawyers to scrutinise it before you agree anything with anyone.

It was a joke, bro!

That said, I approve this message.,

Reply...