Pre flop check up posts.
I thought it would be helpful to start an ongoing thread where people can post pre flop situations they have questions a
Q6s just has more equity than T4s. T4s is borderline, Q6s is squarely in a call range.
I would put Q6 close to the borderline, but I still don't like it. Unless you happen to have a flush draw and another player has a Jack high flush draw, there's not a lot of difference between the two hands.
I would put Q6 close to the borderline, but I still don't like it. Unless you happen to have a flush draw and another player has a Jack high flush draw, there's not a lot of difference between the two hands.
The high is a bit higher and the low is a bit higher, giving you about a 1.5% equity increase. I think the difference is significant enough to make one reasonable to play over the other.
LP 4/8or 8/16 game
1. 3 limpers to me OTB with JTo. I call. In the CO, I fold.
2. 3 limpers to me OTB with JTs/T9s/98s. Depends alot on table conditions, but about half the time I raise, half call.
3. 2 bad limpers to me in CO with QTo. I raise but I think this might be a fold.
1&3, I’m raising these but arguments could possibly be made for all three.
2, Raise 100%. If someone 3! then cap. Low limit players tend to freak when you bomb these hands pre and then drag a massive pot.
LP 4/8or 8/16 game
1. 3 limpers to me OTB with JTo. I call. In the CO, I fold.
2. 3 limpers to me OTB with JTs/T9s/98s. Depends alot on table conditions, but about half the time I raise, half call.
3. 2 bad limpers to me in CO with QTo. I raise but I think this might be a fold.
1. call
2. raise
3. raise
I call in the CO with 1 and 3.
2 I nearly always raise JTs. The other two I sometimes just call.
LP 4/8or 8/16 game
1. 3 limpers to me OTB with JTo. I call. In the CO, I fold.
2. 3 limpers to me OTB with JTs/T9s/98s. Depends alot on table conditions, but about half the time I raise, half call.
3. 2 bad limpers to me in CO with QTo. I raise but I think this might be a fold.
Hand 1 I’d call OTB and raise or fold in the CO (where there’s a real advantage to forcing out the button)
Hand 2 I raise all of these. I don’t hate capping if I gets 3bet back to me but I typically find these hands play better postflop if you don’t cap.
Hand 3 I think this is a fold. QTo is not a hand I’m thrilled about playing in a 4+ way pot, and I’d honestly rather have JTo because it’s easier to navigate postflop. I agree that raising is better than calling.
1. Call
2. Raise
3. Don’t call
It’s been forever since I’ve posted here and I’ve probably completely forgotten how to play. 30/60 game that isn’t great. TAG raises UTG+1. Folded to me on the button. Button posts one chip, SB is two chips, BB is three chips. Do you have a calling range here?
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Sounds really bad to not have a calling range here, especially if the blinds are yum yum
The blinds are in that category I used to personally label as live TAG/online fish, say like 22/8. They aren’t calling any two and they probably aren’t under defending. The EP raiser seems solid in an hour of play. Here are a bunch of hands I would fold and not think twice without the chip on the button:
22-66
ATo/KJo-KTo/QJo-QTo
Suited connectors and one gappers
How much does that chip on the button change our action?
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Having 1/6 of the bet already paid doesn't make me want to cold call any hands.
The blinds are in that category I used to personally label as live TAG/online fish, say like 22/8. They aren’t calling any two and they probably aren’t under defending. The EP raiser seems solid in an hour of play. Here are a bunch of hands I would fold and not think twice without the chip on the button:22-66ATo/KJo-KTo/QJo-QToSuited connectors and one gappers How much does tha
It’s the combination of there being one chip on the button plus the more flattened structure of small blind and big blind that makes it more enticing to come in with at least some of the hands you mentioned. I would play AT, KJ, and at least some of 66-22 and suited connectors at some frequency, and probably some better one gappers. Not at full frequency, probably a mix of call, raise, and fold.
Checkraisedraw’s comment is exactly in line with what I’d been thinking. The 2 chip/3 chip blind structure plus not super nit blinds makes it likely the blinds enter with hands that my weaker offsuit broadways dominate. Is that plus the extra dead money than a typical structure plus position enough to offset the fact that those hands are sometimes dominated by the EP raiser and almost never dominating the EP raiser?
The hand itself was maybe interesting too.
I call KJo, SB calls, BB calls.
Flop: K66r
EP bets, I call, SB folds, BB calls.
Turn: Jr
EP bets, I raise, BB 3! EP 4!
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You don’t have 1/6 “already paid”, there are 12 units in the pot already and you have to pay 5 units to call. Thinking about the one chip as if it’s your money is incorrect.
That's why I didn't say it was my money. I said calling costs 1/6 less than usual, and that discount wouldn't make me want to call with anything.
It's still a raise or fold spot for me.
Theoretically it should make me reraise looser than usual, but for me that would be very few extra hands.
3 limpers, 96s hj. what if there were 2 limpers?
2/3 structure, 9 handed UTG+1 open, one cold caller, btn 3b. T8s in the BB.
Fold both
I call both (6s hands (raising occasionally), but that's my lucky hand.
It's only slightly below the worst better hand that I call with here though.
I fold the T8s hand. I'm pretty tight when calling two raises from the BB and not closing the action. I would want a hand with a lot of implied odds, and that's not one of them.
Sounds really bad to not have a calling range here, especially if the blinds are yum yum
I would be very surprised if it is optimal to have a cold calling range here. Definitely not "really bad" to play 3b/fold.
Fold AINEC.
Fold.
open 99 UTG, Tag 3b UTG+2, button (non-nit, not maniac) cold 4b button, blinds fold. 4b cap.
call or fold?
Call.
I hate this position. Initially it looks like a simple call as you're getting odds to set mine. But I'm assuming the problem is when the flop comes 742, then what? You going to fold an overpair for one bet? And some form of this could continue to the river.
What stakes is this? The higher the stakes the more likely I am to continue. Could easily get away from this against some 4-8 opponents.
Pretty sure you gotta sigh call.
Just do the math. You have like 23% equity assuming insanely tight ranges and getting 6:1.