Pre flop check up posts.

i would have to have a great read that the limper is a super nit before i didnt try to iso KJo in the sb. if he's "not terrible" hes going to have a range of Axs and small pp's which should be pretty easy to play against.

and the game would have to be sick good for me to coldcall a raise next in with 87s. as in if i call, everyone else will too, with no 3bets. and then everyone plays passive postflop.

Raise the KJo and fold the 87s.

Depending on what I think of the other players I would either raise or fold the KJo, I would never call.

Always folding the 87s there.

Yeah fold the 87s and kj dependent on many things but I’m never calling and often raising

Imo a not terrible player limping in might even have a hand better than yours but just plays fit or fold. With the reads that you’ll likely play a 3bet or 4bet pot I think you’re fine just to pitch it. Just don’t let anyone else at the table see it lol

And yeah, a raise is way better than a limp.

78s don’t even think about it easy fold.

Very loose game with a lot of limping and an average amount of raising pre flop. The pots have been good size not massive. The button is pretty loose with cold calls pre. The SB is a TAG and the BB is a tight passive. It is a rake game.

There are three limps to me in the CO. What are you doing with these?

1) Kh3h
2) KTo
3) 77's

I probably call all three but should probably really fold #1.

I definitely call and/or raise with pocket 7’s.

The first two hands are pretty close to either calling or folding.

call 1, call 2, raise 3

mid pp's are so much easier to play in position when you raise pre and can get 4 card flops and/or free river showdowns. also if you hit a set you incentive ppl to chase postflop with any pair which means you are printing.

This is how I have been playing it.

I usually just call starting around 66's but maybe that should be raised as well. How low are you going regarding raising pairs? Being in the CO incentivizes us to raise as well.

I thought 4 card flops went away at least 15 years ago.

you have to post the kill UTG+2 in a 7 handed game. UTG+1 raises, you have T6s. what if you have T7s?

Call

I'd call these.

I'm wondering what the worst of this hand type we fold and at what point do we 3 bet. Are we still calling T2s? Do we consider 3 betting around 9Ts? I'm assuming in the 3 bet situation we think we can get HU and the opener isn't overly tight.

Maniac straddles UTG. I am in the CO. The button is tight and the blinds are somewhat loose bad regs. They will call a three with hands they should fold like KTo, TJo, 74s etc. The maniac will 4 bet or 5 bet if given the opportunity always. He can get nutty post flop with draws and marginal made hands post. The implied odds are good here. He does dial back the aggression if he completely misses.

It's folded to me. What are you doing with these?

1) A2o
2) K3s
3) K9o
4) 89s
5) 44's

I'm just trying to figure out a reasonable range that will exploit the maniac range but not get into too much trouble if a blind or blinds come along. I've seen some good players 3 bet with some extremely wide ranges in this situation. The off suit Aces are weird because they all have good equity hu against the maniac but if one or both blinds join in the equity plummets and actualizing that equity gets more difficult.

As I look at it now, I think A5o+ seems more reasonable. The other hands are close I think.

On one hand I feel like I am leaving opportunities on the table but on the other I can see how all of these hands could get me into trouble. Is it better to wait for better situations or use my position and gamble? It's possible I should be 3 betting weaker than these hands. I saw a good winning LAG 3b a straddle with Q7o but this wasn't against a maniac.

1) fold
2) raise
3) fold
4) raise
5) raise

maybe weird but i think you can cold call here with a decent range like small pp's and 89s type hands. id fold K3s, K9o and A2o though.

I think there are spots where cold calling makes sense with the hands you mentioned. If the button is loose and rarely getting out of the way it makes sense. If I can expect calls from the remaining players it makes sense. If I have any chance to get heads up with the maniac I'm 3 betting. If I know I can get it HU my 3 bet range can become wider. If I know that at least a couple of the players behind me are gonna call the 3 bet this makes it interesting. What are we doing with the KT or QJo type hands? Maybe just calling with these and keeping the pot smaller and having good relative position to the maniac makes sense.

How big does your Ace need to be to get in there?

The maniac in this hand will raise about 75% of hands. He does sometimes just limp or cold call. He does a ton of 3 betting and capping as well. He will 3 barrel most of the time unless the board is particularly scary. He is on a strange heater where he will bet a hand like KJ UIP on the river and beat a TAG who called him with a worse K.

Maniac opens in mp, loose passive calls on the button. He could have some biggish hands like ATo or KTs but mostly suited hands, small pairs, middle unsuited cards. The BB is tight. I have KTo. My equity is good. If I 3 bet the maniac will 4 bet and the button will call. Is it better to just call here and let the maniac do the betting post. We can CR good runouts and maybe call down if the button gets out of the way.

Is K9o too junky to get involved? Or is this a spot where we want to get in there and hope to flop well or pick off a bluff?

I’m probably overly tight but I’m probably either folding or calling.

if you cant get it HU then yes cold calling with KT, QJ, KJo type hands is fine

suited broadways id 3bet, not to get it HU but for value.

UTG opens. I have only played with him a few hours. I've only seen him raise with big pocket pairs and AK. Very small sample size. MP is sort of loose. I thought he was a TAG but he does open limp and cold call pre. I saw him cc AQo once but also hands like J8s. The blinds are both tight.

What would you do with KQo on the button?

Three bet or fold

easy easy fold