The first human rights violation in the poker world

The first human rights violation in the poker world

The first human rights violation in the poker world

Becoming a professional poker player was not something I thought I'd be growing up. I started playing at 18 with my friends and I was consistently beating them, and I slowly became more immersed in the game as time went by. It wasn't until I was 22 that I realized I could be a pro, and by the time I was 24 in 2017 I was playing full time. The allure of this game has always been that I can set my own hours and routine, work as little or as much as I want, without a formal boss, without having to answer to any person, and without having any superiors. I've always taken a lax approach to the game, don't work myself too hard, and strive to enjoy what life has to offer. I'm certain I'm not the best player, but also far from the worst. I've always had big ambitions in poker however I go at a slow pace and am happy with the little I have accomplished in the almost 8 years I've been playing full time although I have no doubts I have a long way to go. The freedoms it gave me were always one of the draws of playing full time for me, and it pains me that I have to make this thread today as some of these freedoms have been taken away from me by people who have self appointed themselves to positions of authority in a game that should always be pure and fair but has in recent years taken a turn towards elitism.

Here is a link to a thread about me on another forum. I recommend you skip over this part and read through my account of what transpired first however.

https://pokerfraudalert.com/forum/showth...
Don't know what to say. Not something I'd do again but also definitely not as it has been reported. I've maintained and will continue to maintain my innocence and a proper and thorough investigation will exonerate me from wrongdoing and find that I have been wronged. Unfortunately, I have not been afforded that right. Every tactic in the book has been used to keep me quiet, and make my life a living hell for the past 475 days. I've been denied a chance to speak in my defense, I've been denied any form of due process, I've been restricted from doing my job, I've been isolated and blackballed from everybody in the industry, I may have a form of post traumatic stress disorder, and no matter what happens I'll never ever be the same again.

In short form (this is the most I could condense this there is plenty I had to leave out) I dm'd one of poker's influencers on twitter a lot of times. I was under the impression she was a willing participant. There was nothing to suggest otherwise and I have evidence to support she was a willing participant for whatever reason wether it was for her own entertainment or to bait me. She later doxxed me on her page to over 20k people. She lied about key details and leads 10's of thousands of people to believe I'm a schizophrenic and that I'm violent, neither of which are true. People calling for me to be hurt, crazies saying I need to be institutionalized against my will, she puts on a melodramatic performance including saying she needs armed home security guards. My reputation is destroyed and its clear that this person is in a position of power over me and has twisted things to sound like something they're not. Following this I started to have symptoms of post traumatic stress disorder which have persisted to today. It was bad the first few months now it comes and goes. I'm happy to say I've never felt better than recently however it comes back in the form of flashbacks and the like from time to time and longterm I'm not sure what it will be like. I have invested a lot of time effort and money into my mental game so that I know when to play and when not to play. I was unable to play much in the following couple of months and it began a snowball effect on my life that has cost me a ton of money and I am sure without the support I had would have put me on the street.

About a month after this happened I started to get attention from a few anonymous accounts. I talked with one of them via DM, for a couple days. They described themselves as a psychopath who enjoys tormenting people. Once I disengaged contact with this account, they started to dox me. There were over a dozen accounts working together (retweeting one another) for almost two months. Whenever I'd block one there would be another. And it didn't matter if I did because they still did a lot of damage. They'd routinely tag poker accounts and post whatever they wanted about me. Among the things they did was make fake death and rape threats towards the influencer that doxxed me (photoshopped using my profile pic and name to make it look like i tweeted rape and death threats that i didnt), and had them spread around, which people of course believed. They frequently encouraged me to end my life. They would comment a link to the thread where I was doxxed by her, on every one of my posts. They even were doing this to random people that followed me, and also whenever I commented on stuff that had nothing to do with poker. They frequently posted antisemitic stuff on my page. They'd post random Las Vegas addresses saying that I lived there. Might be a few other things I am forgetting. It made my twitter account completely unusable. This went on from around May 6th 2023 to June 26th 2023. These accounts (I concluded that it was at least 2 people working together) left a trail however.

I have a smoking gun of one person's involvement who happens to be a big influencer in the twitter poker celebrity world (>98%). I have a reasonable suspicion of another's involvement who also happens to be a big influencer (let's say 50/50), and that this same thing was done to two other people who were isolated and vulnerable. I have motive, intent, speech patterns, everything to make a reasonable to strong case of who did this. NOBODY has been willing to even take a look. Stay with me because next part is where it gets a little crazy.

June 6th I walked into WSOP to play the 1500 6max which is one of my favorite events. Play until right before dinner break, bust out and head home. Some time later (might have been June 15th?) I get a note on my door that I have legal papers that need to be served to me. I didn't think anything of it, and went in to pick them up on June 20th. I pick up the papers, and sure enough she has filed a report with a fabricated story, claiming that I was stalking her in the WSOP on the 6th. This happens to be the 2nd report she has filed against me, the first one was denied, the second with the fabricated story was approved to be heard by a judge. I happened to have a few eye witness accounts from reputable players that contradict part of her story however the way she wrote it I'm not sure what those are worth. Picked up the documents on June 20th and the hearing was scheduled for June 28th so I had less than a week to get a lawyer and prepare for this. Meanwhile I rushed to message a few of who I thought were trustworthy members of the poker twitter influencers to show them that she lied and to try and get some support, as I was not in shape to pay thousands of dollars for a great lawyer. I didn't get any support, however I did happen to get something out of it, because shortly after I privately shared this story with these "poker celebrities", one of the anon accounts was helpful enough to inform me that "I have no case against her" and threatened to murder me if I didn't keep my mouth shut! What a coincidence that they threatened me a day before it took place! Based on who I thought it was and the network and resources available to them I took it as a credible threat on my life.

I wasn't too worried about the hearing, I figured I'd be able to explain what happened and I'd get a fair hearing and a fair outcome. Nope. As soon as she opened her mouth it was waterworks, and one lie after another, after another. I'm not sure if any one of the things she'd said was fact and I am sure it altered the outcome because there were multiple ways it could have been ruled. The judge did not ask me anything, I did not get a chance to speak a word, and she granted her the most restrictive protective order for the most amount of time it could have been granted, that does not reasonably allow me to play cash games, and attempts but fails to make a stipulation where I can play tournaments. Here's the kicker for her: if it's found that I violated it somehow I'd get sent to prison for up to 5 years. So I figured at this point, I'm screwed. If she decides to lie and say I've violated the order I have no way of defending myself. I'm a nobody with no network or resources to fight this and it's based on a preponderence of evidence. Basically, if she claims I violated the order, whoever the judge believes wins. Coincidentally, after the ruling was made in her favor, the anonymous accounts abruptly stopped.

At this point, few days before the main event, I figured I was screwed. Three days later, July 1st, I got a call from the Wynn informing me that I'd been trespassed. I went to the horseshoe's security office to inquire with them and find out if I'd been trespassed there also. I was told that they'd been informed of the protective order but that I was not trespassed and as long as I dont cause any trouble I'd be fine. Despite that, I thought there was no way to protect myself from this, with the death threat, and the leverage had from the PO, there were people were really out to get me, and I decided to leave the country for three months and keep my head down for the remainder of the year.

Fast forward to a week ago, I bought myself a body cam and I was selling to the 2024 main event. I was having trouble selling where I was always able to sell in the past. I'm not a crusher but I have decent enough results where I should be able to sell 1.1, but all the big buyers passed on me. My reputation is more or less pristine outside of this incident. I'm not a scammer, I'm not a cheater, and I've never welched on a debt in the almost decade I've been in poker, and I'm honest to a fault. By a miracle I was able to sell out at the last moment on day 2D. I literally ran around the strip the entire afternoon collecting cash and made it to the registration window at 4:49PM just minutes before late reg was over. The cashier counts my money, takes my ID and players card and disappears claiming she needs to verify me. I'm waiting and waiting and assured that I was going to have a seat and everything was fine. A whole 30 mins pass and in come three security people informing me that they made a decision to trespass me from all Caesar's properties. I did not do anything wrong, I was a little jumpy because I had cut it close with the late reg time but I wasn't doing anything that warranted it. They refused to tell me why, I emailed them and they also did not tell me why, just that they don't review trespasses until at least a year goes by.

It seems like these influencers care about nothing above their self interests but act like they are gatekeepers of a game that is pure and fair. They act like they care about scammers and cheaters and right and wrong, but when it comes to something that might make them look bad as a whole it doesn't matter. The person who accused me has been outted in the past by an ex of hers as a thief but there is no fuss about that and this person has gotten every opportunity imaginable in this industry and was allowed to destroy every aspect of my life while everybody looked the other way. I've reached out to at least 15 different people trying to get a fair look at my side of the story. They either ignore me, block me, and on 1 occasion was told they don't want to get involved. I can only imagine the type of nonsense and gossip that has been spread in the background about me and contributed to my reputation sabotage, disintegration of my career, and to my isolation from the wider social community. I've been pushed out of twitter where I spent a lot of time and enjoyed participating in some of the discourse, I've been banned from Caesar's and Wynn, I cannot reasonably play cash anywhere in Las Vegas. Regardless of whether you think I'm innocent or not, this is done in a deliberate manner to sabotage reputations and lives, and it often ends with guys killing themselves. I've been isolated from everything and everybody I worked to be around for the past decade, I've been turned into a leper and I feel as I'm in solitary confinement for over a year. It is a slow form of murder and it's common for women like this to turn everybody against you, spread their false version of reality, exaggerate, cause hysteria, and make the lives of powerless people like myself unlivable.

Save your breathe if you are here to tell me that I deserve what's happening to me, or that I need to let it go, or that I have a victim's mentality. After spending a few months in a group with other men victim to similar false, and exaggerated claims and reading some of the things these guys go through, all I can say is save your time. A lot of them end up committing suicide, a lot of them end up homeless and estranged from everybody they know. What I am going through is torture in a literal sense. I feel as if I have been in solitary confinement for an entire year, with no right to speak in my defense, no right to due proccess, an open pass for people to discriminate against me and treat me however they want. I've been booted from WSOP and Wynn, and I cannot reasonably do my job of 8 years. Nothing I did justifies this. This is a clear depraved indifference for my life, and a pervasive pattern of neglect and abuse. The system happens to give these women a ridiculous amount of power over others, and by rule it will act as a magnet to bad actors and power abusers who know exactly how to cause the most amount of damage. It is not representative of an entire gender and I would not like this to turn into a gender discourse. What happens to men like me is a human rights violation and it should not happen to anybody ever. This needs to stopped somehow because I'm not going to shut up about it and I believe these people can hurt me worse.

The only thing I am here to ask of this forum, is cooperation, in verifying what has happened to me. If it is ok, I'll take as many of you as is possible, the more reputable you are the better, but anybody, and everybody is welcome to DM me and verify the claims I am making. I can't just start dropping names on here so I'd like for this to be done in private until there is a mutual agreement on who is involved and what can be verified and what can't.
I've tried and messaged at least 15 people in the industry to try and get my side looked at to no avail. Was lucky enough to have Jungleman open his DM's to report nefarious activities within the industry, and so I've got the support of Jungleman if I can have my claims verified, so it would go a long way. I have had no doubt since day 1 that I am innocent, that I have been wronged far worse than what you can imagine and that some of the people involved are influential figures in the poker industry and that there is a broad awareness of what happened to me while many have looked the other way. Don't need anything but to be treated like a human being. I've been denied that for over a year and as irreperable of a situation as this is I am going to get fair treatment and people will be held accountable.

15 July 2024 at 08:43 PM
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"My nuts are full, my bank account is empty" would be a pretty sick rap line, though.


my nuts are full, my bank account is empty, and I am ready

is incredible. Also impressive attention to detail to get the girth measurement down to the 3rd decimal. Important.

Sometimes I double-text a chick just to make sure that she really really is dissing me, even though I deep down know that not responding to the one is a clear enough sign. But sometimes a man just has to make double-sure.
Double as in two texts in a row. Two. When I feel like being extra creepy.



this you?




My nuts are full, my bank account is empty, I am ready

new undertitle for OP!


by Lucy's Fur k

He's not hung up on her....that's a very gross misrepresentation of what was said.

He originally messaged her like a loser. I think we all agree there.

He then tried cutting ties and being respectful about it; and people jumped in calling him all sorts of names.

I guess it's easier to gossip than to seek to understand, you absolute ****ing hyenas.

My advice to him is to cut all contact; don't mention her even. Once law is involved; it doesn't matter what the truth is; you have to play by their ru

Lol, did you see the everlasting string of texts and pictures he sent her (including dick pics...)?

Warning to people looking through that video above btw... theres NSFW pictures in there..


"Talking about our grandchildren, and spewing all over your pretty face"

Thread has delievered.


by NickMPK k

I also asked the mods to lock and anonymize this thread for the OP’s own good.
OP, I would suggest you ask the mods if the thread can be deleted.
Please believe everyone who is telling you that further publicizing this is of no benefit to you.

I'd kinda rather they keep it up, so the stalking victim can use the OPs own behavior here to renew or possibly enhance the protective order against this guy. Letting this kind of derangement exist in the shadows helps no one; I think a light needs shined on this for Schubert's protection.


by Kebabkungen k

Lol, did you see the everlasting string of texts and pictures he sent her (including dick pics...)?

Warning to people looking through that video above btw... theres NSFW pictures in there..

No; I doubt I saw all the texts then.

The ones I saw came off like an autistic person; not a threat. If it gets worse; my bad, but from what I saw it was just hilariously autistic.


Kind of a shame that a restraining order is the only thing she can do.


Nico,

A few years back, there was a Hustler Casino Live reg who was clearly going through some sort of manic / psychotic break, a lot of people on the 2p2 thread were mocking and threatening the guy who lost it, and then about a year later he was officially ruled dead, presumably from suicide.

I'm glad to see that in this thread, there's actually been more people encouraging you to get help than mocking you. And I think even Melissa handled it pretty well given how unsafe you probably made her feel. You are actually pretty fortunate you are getting away with just a ban at a few casinos, considering in cases like these often angry mobs can seek physical retribution.

If you haven't physically harmed, or been physically harmed, and you haven't been arrested or charged with anything, you are in a great spot to let something that could get out of had completely blow over. You leave this girl completely alone and in a few years it will be water under the bridge. You continue to escalate things and there could be horrible permanent consequences.

I'm open minded that in "he says, she says" cases, either party can be deceiving and manipulating. But in this case, "she" has provided a mountain of evidence that you are completely unhinged, and you have provided effectively zero evidence to truly dispute her. Anonymous accounts harassing you simply doesn't mean much since it could be retribution for your own crazy messages from her friends, or simply your own sock puppets.

If you are truly mentally stable and a victim of a misrepresentation of your actions, the best way to prove that would be to detach yourself from the situation entirely, engage in absolutely zero contact with Melissa, and go live a stable life somewhere, which I'd strongly recommend is anywhere except Las Vegas. There are several other regions in the country you can play live poker especially if you're mostly playing low-mid stakes like 2/5. Consider Miami, Los Angeles, or Pennsylvania.

If after 4 years living a mentally stable life with no conflict, you claim that your actions were misrepresented in this case, you'd have a lot more credibility than continuing to engage in stirring the situation up on social media with long walls of text.

Based on what I've seen, I agree with others you should seriously consider the possibility you are suffering from some sort of psychotic episode relating to things like schizophrenia or bipolar disorder. In this case, you can be at risk of harm to yourself and others.

This isn't mean to demean you in any way, as I've unfortunately experienced a psychotic break myself. So I'm speaking from experience that you need help.

I'd strongly recommend:

* Completely avoid alcohol

* Completely avoid marijuana

* Definitely completely avoid any harder drugs like MDMA or cocaine

* Heavily limit or eliminate caffeine

* Completely avoid any ADHD meds like Adderall, Ritalin, or Vyvanse. Even if you're medically prescribed these, talk to a doctor and suggest you're worried you could be experiencing elements of psychosis. Any competent doctor will realize you should avoid ADHD meds in this case even if you suffer from symptoms of ADHD as stimulants are terrible for psychosis and can cause much worse outcomes than inattention

* Commit to having zero contact of any sort with Melissa or her friends. If you absolutely feel that some sort of communication is necessary, the best option would be through a lawyer. I understand that financially may not be viable for you, but I also highly doubt you truly need to contact her.

* Delete your social media apps and if you ever need to use social media, make sure all of Melissas accounts are blocked and her friends accounts are blocked you avoid learning any sort of things about her life. The best form of closure from a situation like this is complete no contact.

* Consider going somewhere you can experience the outdoors with minimal engagement with the internet. A camping trip or a surfing trip can be good.

* Try to get in touch with a therapist who would be a more appropriate source of advice than a poker web forum. There's many online options such as at Grow Therapy.

Take a step back and realize that paranoia, delusions of grandeur and delusions that there are conspiracies against you are often symptoms of psychosis. Again, this is not to demean you, but to hopefully help you take a step back and realize that if you're feeling like a victim, but everyone's around you telling you that you're behavior is inappropriate, it's more likely that you are in fact acting inappropriate and it could be a reflection of a mental health issue that you'd be better off getting help for .

Absolute worst case scenario, there are a lot of other options in life other than playing pro poker , and most of them are better than pro poker. But realistically, you can probably continue to play poker as long as you avoid Las Vegas, and a change of scenery sounds like an ideal choice for you anyway.


well stated mp


by Manner Please k

…as I've unfortunately experienced a psychotic break myself. So I'm speaking from experience….

I sincerely hope this wasn’t the result of being denied entry into the Bay 101 high-roller game…


by Lucy's Fur k

The punishment doesn't fit the crime unless someone has further proof I'm not seeing. Is it wrong? Yes. Is it wrong on a level for restraining order? Only if she asked him to stop directly (through text or in person).

My opinion: If he's less than 27 or so; he gets a free pass for being a loser and messaging her that many times. If he's much older than that; the restraining order should likely stand; as he should know better.

I'm way more lenient with this if he's younger than if he's older.

She did. Then she did again along with warning she would get restraining order. He admits he saw these put continued contacting her.


by Manner Please k

Nico,

A few years back, there was a Hustler Casino Live reg who was clearly going through some sort of manic / psychotic break, a lot of people on the 2p2 thread were mocking and threatening the guy who lost it, and then about a year later he was officially ruled dead, presumably from suicide.

Who would this be? Never heard of this story and I follow NVG closely


by PatPat8 k

Who would this be? Never heard of this story and I follow NVG closely

Charles Jiang . He was clearly harassing another person and I understand why that person felt the need to defend himself but I warned everyone it looked like a manic episode and a doctor would be a better choice than an angry mob:

https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/29/ne...

then a bit later the obituary:

https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/29/ne...


by rickroll k

well stated mp

I concur. There’s no shame in going thru a mental crisis. You’re not the first and you won’t be the last. The most important thing is taking the necessary steps towards health.

“If you don’t have your health, you don’t have anything.”


by Polarbear1955 k

Simple questions: yes or no please no I did but or explanations necessary.

Did you send her more than 20 communications per day?

by NikoP k

None of this matters. Even if I did, and you have no proof of this. You are asking the wrong questions. Even if I’d sent her 10k messages that is not what matters. Both from a legal and moral standpoint.

ChatGPT translation: yes he did.


by Lucy's Fur k

That's ridiculous; I'd like you to stop.

How am I supposed to respond to that? I am not Niko; I am LucysFur, I play on Global Poker. I do not play anywhere else; but I am considering playing Live in the state I live (NY).

How can I play live in NY when it's illegal? Indian reservation casinos.

I'd not know that if I lived in vegas; I don't think many people know about our Indian reservations in NY. They aren't exactly marked on a map.

Then again if you really lived in NY you would know there are at least 6 commercial casinos in NY and several of these offer live poker. You would also know about plenty of other live poker in states around NY.

BTW, the reservations in NY are no secret and actually there a numerous maps the are marked on.

You might not be Niko but your support is suspect. Maybe you are him. Maybe you actually are bitter and want him to be right. Maybe you did not read anything. Or maybe you are just a mentally challenged as he is. Personally I would bet on being one of his alter egos.


OP, hopefully some of these posters will get through to you and you'll seek professional help.

If anyone is friends with this guy in real life, please try to get him some help before he escalates something like this and physically harms a woman.


by NikoP k

I have thousands of screenshots and I’ve spent countless hours evaluating everything surrounding this.

Whew. For a moment, I thought you might be obsessed or something.

But seriously... I can't possibly offer more constructive than what Manner Please laid out above.


by Kebabkungen k

Lol, did you see the everlasting string of texts and pictures he sent her (including dick pics...)?

Warning to people looking through that video above btw... theres NSFW pictures in there..

Not gonna lie; they really should have started the other threads with those texts first. Holy ****. It's so bad...it's so bad. The others were so tame; why did they display the tame stuff like that was the extent of it?


by Kebabkungen k

Lol, did you see the everlasting string of texts and pictures he sent her (including dick pics...)?

Warning to people looking through that video above btw... theres NSFW pictures in there..

Time stamp for the nsfw pics? There’s talks of dick pics but I didn’t see any nsfw pics… Not that it would make this any less creepy. OP should really get some help. A peer into the mindset of a deranged obsessive stalker is extremely unsettling and reminds me of tragic cases like these…


Delete Twitter, delete all your social media, change your name, seek professional mental help, grow a beard and move to a different part of the country where nobody knows you and you can play poker. (serious)


by TheFly k

I sincerely hope this wasn’t the result of being denied entry into the Bay 101 high-roller game…

Curated!

I’m just doing a one day Fly By for Final Table but nice to see old friends and topics

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