The first human rights violation in the poker world
The first human rights violation in the poker world
Becoming a professional poker player was not something I thought I'd be growing up. I started playing at 18 with my friends and I was consistently beating them, and I slowly became more immersed in the game as time went by. It wasn't until I was 22 that I realized I could be a pro, and by the time I was 24 in 2017 I was playing full time. The allure of this game has always been that I can set my own hours and routine, work as little or as much as I want, without a formal boss, without having to answer to any person, and without having any superiors. I've always taken a lax approach to the game, don't work myself too hard, and strive to enjoy what life has to offer. I'm certain I'm not the best player, but also far from the worst. I've always had big ambitions in poker however I go at a slow pace and am happy with the little I have accomplished in the almost 8 years I've been playing full time although I have no doubts I have a long way to go. The freedoms it gave me were always one of the draws of playing full time for me, and it pains me that I have to make this thread today as some of these freedoms have been taken away from me by people who have self appointed themselves to positions of authority in a game that should always be pure and fair but has in recent years taken a turn towards elitism.
Here is a link to a thread about me on another forum. I recommend you skip over this part and read through my account of what transpired first however.
https://pokerfraudalert.com/forum/showth...
Don't know what to say. Not something I'd do again but also definitely not as it has been reported. I've maintained and will continue to maintain my innocence and a proper and thorough investigation will exonerate me from wrongdoing and find that I have been wronged. Unfortunately, I have not been afforded that right. Every tactic in the book has been used to keep me quiet, and make my life a living hell for the past 475 days. I've been denied a chance to speak in my defense, I've been denied any form of due process, I've been restricted from doing my job, I've been isolated and blackballed from everybody in the industry, I may have a form of post traumatic stress disorder, and no matter what happens I'll never ever be the same again.
In short form (this is the most I could condense this there is plenty I had to leave out) I dm'd one of poker's influencers on twitter a lot of times. I was under the impression she was a willing participant. There was nothing to suggest otherwise and I have evidence to support she was a willing participant for whatever reason wether it was for her own entertainment or to bait me. She later doxxed me on her page to over 20k people. She lied about key details and leads 10's of thousands of people to believe I'm a schizophrenic and that I'm violent, neither of which are true. People calling for me to be hurt, crazies saying I need to be institutionalized against my will, she puts on a melodramatic performance including saying she needs armed home security guards. My reputation is destroyed and its clear that this person is in a position of power over me and has twisted things to sound like something they're not. Following this I started to have symptoms of post traumatic stress disorder which have persisted to today. It was bad the first few months now it comes and goes. I'm happy to say I've never felt better than recently however it comes back in the form of flashbacks and the like from time to time and longterm I'm not sure what it will be like. I have invested a lot of time effort and money into my mental game so that I know when to play and when not to play. I was unable to play much in the following couple of months and it began a snowball effect on my life that has cost me a ton of money and I am sure without the support I had would have put me on the street.
About a month after this happened I started to get attention from a few anonymous accounts. I talked with one of them via DM, for a couple days. They described themselves as a psychopath who enjoys tormenting people. Once I disengaged contact with this account, they started to dox me. There were over a dozen accounts working together (retweeting one another) for almost two months. Whenever I'd block one there would be another. And it didn't matter if I did because they still did a lot of damage. They'd routinely tag poker accounts and post whatever they wanted about me. Among the things they did was make fake death and rape threats towards the influencer that doxxed me (photoshopped using my profile pic and name to make it look like i tweeted rape and death threats that i didnt), and had them spread around, which people of course believed. They frequently encouraged me to end my life. They would comment a link to the thread where I was doxxed by her, on every one of my posts. They even were doing this to random people that followed me, and also whenever I commented on stuff that had nothing to do with poker. They frequently posted antisemitic stuff on my page. They'd post random Las Vegas addresses saying that I lived there. Might be a few other things I am forgetting. It made my twitter account completely unusable. This went on from around May 6th 2023 to June 26th 2023. These accounts (I concluded that it was at least 2 people working together) left a trail however.
I have a smoking gun of one person's involvement who happens to be a big influencer in the twitter poker celebrity world (>98%). I have a reasonable suspicion of another's involvement who also happens to be a big influencer (let's say 50/50), and that this same thing was done to two other people who were isolated and vulnerable. I have motive, intent, speech patterns, everything to make a reasonable to strong case of who did this. NOBODY has been willing to even take a look. Stay with me because next part is where it gets a little crazy.
June 6th I walked into WSOP to play the 1500 6max which is one of my favorite events. Play until right before dinner break, bust out and head home. Some time later (might have been June 15th?) I get a note on my door that I have legal papers that need to be served to me. I didn't think anything of it, and went in to pick them up on June 20th. I pick up the papers, and sure enough she has filed a report with a fabricated story, claiming that I was stalking her in the WSOP on the 6th. This happens to be the 2nd report she has filed against me, the first one was denied, the second with the fabricated story was approved to be heard by a judge. I happened to have a few eye witness accounts from reputable players that contradict part of her story however the way she wrote it I'm not sure what those are worth. Picked up the documents on June 20th and the hearing was scheduled for June 28th so I had less than a week to get a lawyer and prepare for this. Meanwhile I rushed to message a few of who I thought were trustworthy members of the poker twitter influencers to show them that she lied and to try and get some support, as I was not in shape to pay thousands of dollars for a great lawyer. I didn't get any support, however I did happen to get something out of it, because shortly after I privately shared this story with these "poker celebrities", one of the anon accounts was helpful enough to inform me that "I have no case against her" and threatened to murder me if I didn't keep my mouth shut! What a coincidence that they threatened me a day before it took place! Based on who I thought it was and the network and resources available to them I took it as a credible threat on my life.
I wasn't too worried about the hearing, I figured I'd be able to explain what happened and I'd get a fair hearing and a fair outcome. Nope. As soon as she opened her mouth it was waterworks, and one lie after another, after another. I'm not sure if any one of the things she'd said was fact and I am sure it altered the outcome because there were multiple ways it could have been ruled. The judge did not ask me anything, I did not get a chance to speak a word, and she granted her the most restrictive protective order for the most amount of time it could have been granted, that does not reasonably allow me to play cash games, and attempts but fails to make a stipulation where I can play tournaments. Here's the kicker for her: if it's found that I violated it somehow I'd get sent to prison for up to 5 years. So I figured at this point, I'm screwed. If she decides to lie and say I've violated the order I have no way of defending myself. I'm a nobody with no network or resources to fight this and it's based on a preponderence of evidence. Basically, if she claims I violated the order, whoever the judge believes wins. Coincidentally, after the ruling was made in her favor, the anonymous accounts abruptly stopped.
At this point, few days before the main event, I figured I was screwed. Three days later, July 1st, I got a call from the Wynn informing me that I'd been trespassed. I went to the horseshoe's security office to inquire with them and find out if I'd been trespassed there also. I was told that they'd been informed of the protective order but that I was not trespassed and as long as I dont cause any trouble I'd be fine. Despite that, I thought there was no way to protect myself from this, with the death threat, and the leverage had from the PO, there were people were really out to get me, and I decided to leave the country for three months and keep my head down for the remainder of the year.
Fast forward to a week ago, I bought myself a body cam and I was selling to the 2024 main event. I was having trouble selling where I was always able to sell in the past. I'm not a crusher but I have decent enough results where I should be able to sell 1.1, but all the big buyers passed on me. My reputation is more or less pristine outside of this incident. I'm not a scammer, I'm not a cheater, and I've never welched on a debt in the almost decade I've been in poker, and I'm honest to a fault. By a miracle I was able to sell out at the last moment on day 2D. I literally ran around the strip the entire afternoon collecting cash and made it to the registration window at 4:49PM just minutes before late reg was over. The cashier counts my money, takes my ID and players card and disappears claiming she needs to verify me. I'm waiting and waiting and assured that I was going to have a seat and everything was fine. A whole 30 mins pass and in come three security people informing me that they made a decision to trespass me from all Caesar's properties. I did not do anything wrong, I was a little jumpy because I had cut it close with the late reg time but I wasn't doing anything that warranted it. They refused to tell me why, I emailed them and they also did not tell me why, just that they don't review trespasses until at least a year goes by.
It seems like these influencers care about nothing above their self interests but act like they are gatekeepers of a game that is pure and fair. They act like they care about scammers and cheaters and right and wrong, but when it comes to something that might make them look bad as a whole it doesn't matter. The person who accused me has been outted in the past by an ex of hers as a thief but there is no fuss about that and this person has gotten every opportunity imaginable in this industry and was allowed to destroy every aspect of my life while everybody looked the other way. I've reached out to at least 15 different people trying to get a fair look at my side of the story. They either ignore me, block me, and on 1 occasion was told they don't want to get involved. I can only imagine the type of nonsense and gossip that has been spread in the background about me and contributed to my reputation sabotage, disintegration of my career, and to my isolation from the wider social community. I've been pushed out of twitter where I spent a lot of time and enjoyed participating in some of the discourse, I've been banned from Caesar's and Wynn, I cannot reasonably play cash anywhere in Las Vegas. Regardless of whether you think I'm innocent or not, this is done in a deliberate manner to sabotage reputations and lives, and it often ends with guys killing themselves. I've been isolated from everything and everybody I worked to be around for the past decade, I've been turned into a leper and I feel as I'm in solitary confinement for over a year. It is a slow form of murder and it's common for women like this to turn everybody against you, spread their false version of reality, exaggerate, cause hysteria, and make the lives of powerless people like myself unlivable.
Save your breathe if you are here to tell me that I deserve what's happening to me, or that I need to let it go, or that I have a victim's mentality. After spending a few months in a group with other men victim to similar false, and exaggerated claims and reading some of the things these guys go through, all I can say is save your time. A lot of them end up committing suicide, a lot of them end up homeless and estranged from everybody they know. What I am going through is torture in a literal sense. I feel as if I have been in solitary confinement for an entire year, with no right to speak in my defense, no right to due proccess, an open pass for people to discriminate against me and treat me however they want. I've been booted from WSOP and Wynn, and I cannot reasonably do my job of 8 years. Nothing I did justifies this. This is a clear depraved indifference for my life, and a pervasive pattern of neglect and abuse. The system happens to give these women a ridiculous amount of power over others, and by rule it will act as a magnet to bad actors and power abusers who know exactly how to cause the most amount of damage. It is not representative of an entire gender and I would not like this to turn into a gender discourse. What happens to men like me is a human rights violation and it should not happen to anybody ever. This needs to stopped somehow because I'm not going to shut up about it and I believe these people can hurt me worse.
The only thing I am here to ask of this forum, is cooperation, in verifying what has happened to me. If it is ok, I'll take as many of you as is possible, the more reputable you are the better, but anybody, and everybody is welcome to DM me and verify the claims I am making. I can't just start dropping names on here so I'd like for this to be done in private until there is a mutual agreement on who is involved and what can be verified and what can't.
I've tried and messaged at least 15 people in the industry to try and get my side looked at to no avail. Was lucky enough to have Jungleman open his DM's to report nefarious activities within the industry, and so I've got the support of Jungleman if I can have my claims verified, so it would go a long way. I have had no doubt since day 1 that I am innocent, that I have been wronged far worse than what you can imagine and that some of the people involved are influential figures in the poker industry and that there is a broad awareness of what happened to me while many have looked the other way. Don't need anything but to be treated like a human being. I've been denied that for over a year and as irreperable of a situation as this is I am going to get fair treatment and people will be held accountable.
Good. Find me annoying; I find you the same.
Right, he did stalk her; and there was a restraining order.
You're so brave for your take that 'stalkers are losers'. Do you want a ****ing ribbon to tie around your Gandhii like wrist? Such brave; much wow.
I want you to go away. ****ing idiot. Also, you have now liked every single one of your own posts, who does that?, you are so low, GO AWAY
I want you to go away. ****ing idiot. Also, you have now liked every single one of your own posts, who does that?, you are so low, GO AWAY
Unhinged. You're absolutely unhinged.
I thought I recognized your username. You say that to everyone; makes me think it's projection. Do you think people want you to go away? Do you struggle with depression? There is help available; at betterhelp you could speak with a licensed professional. It may help you.
I did; and I told you I did. It's up to mods to actually do it. No, there is a reason to defend your public accounts you plan to use for a long time. It's way easier to make a baseless accusation though; so you keep doing you. Now you know on at least one occasion you've made a false accusation. That should be entering your head for the next time, but it won't. *******s don't become less of one, they find reasons to justify being an *******.
In a perfect world; what evidence would appease
My accusation has not been confirmed false. You could have stolen the pic of the Eric ID from someone else. Or have a second ID with that name for whatever reason.
Mods still have not verified anything either so slow your roll.
Unhinged. You're absolutely unhinged.
I thought I recognized your username. You say that to everyone
Holy **** you're dumb. Every single moderator on this forum knows my posting history. It doesn't help you making up lies, but please carry on. Idiot
@mods ban this idiot, unless ofc you know for certain he is the stalker, in that case please let him carry on. The victim needs all the evidence of obessive behavior they can get to help their case.
My accusation has not been confirmed false. You could have stolen the pic of the Eric ID from someone else. Or have a second ID with that name for whatever reason.
Mods still have not verified anything either so slow your roll.
Just ridiculous. How many ****ing hoops do I need to jump through to appease your paranoia?
"You stole the Id from Eric." -> I upload side by side photos to show I didn't. "You cloned the Eric!" - I mean at a certain point, right? You gotta chill on the paranoia.
Holy **** you're dumb. Every single moderator on this forum knows my posting history. It doesn't help you making up lies, but please carry on. Idiot
@mods ban this idiot, unless ofc you know for certain he is the stalker, in that case please let him carry on. The victim needs all the evidence of obessive behavior they can get to help their case.
You're now asking mods to ban me. Cute. What do you think I lied about?
I just want you either confirmed as the stalker or gone. You see, I don't need to explain anything, since everyone in their right mind already thinks the same.
You don't even know what the posts of mine you posted a screenshot of is about, you are so dumb. You have never read any of my posts before, you just clicked my name, and read the last few posts of mine, and "You say that to everyone". If that was the case, I wouldn't be here, just as you won't last the next 24 hours if you keep this up. Just go away
Why don't you go make your own thread Lucy? You could name it "The second human rights violation in the Poker World".
Why don't you go make your own thread Lucy? You could name it "The second human rights violation in the Poker World".
Joke hurt, but too funny not to.
Congrats on becoming a historically bad poster so quickly.
This is ridiculous. I am not Niko; I wish a mod would simply come in and comfirm IP addresses.
Won't prove much if you're using a VPN. You're the most active poster in this thread and you showed up after Niko stopped responding, surely you can understand why people are suspicious.
Won't prove much if you're using a VPN. You're the most active poster in this thread and you showed up after Niko stopped responding, surely you can understand why people are suspicious.
Yes; this is probably why you shouldn't engage with people making false accusations.
To be fair though; are you replying to the other posters; or are you replying to me?
We could take the paranoid view, or the logical one. A lot of replies were to me. I replied a lot because a lot of people replied to me. It really is that simple.
A lot of people replied to me because admittedly I didn't have a full picture and defended what I did see as just awkwardness. It does get worse and as the thread went on; they posted some of it. I can't defend that and won't defend what I saw after. I made a mistake in defending the person off of incomplete information.
People used this to get paranoid and accuse me of being Niko. I defended myself. In hindsight; probably should have said 'lol' and nothing else, but I'm a verbose person.
"my ex reported me too"
That was such bad posting that I want to bump the SE bad posters thread and post Lucy's Fur and this is NVG.
Don't worry, he'll be back shortly on a new account, you'll get plenty of opportunities to get even more gold for your SE bumb.
Yeah, but I'll need him to start posting there. And he'll never become a hjørnespark master bettor like you.
Can't imagine the shitshow if NVG had this thread.
Well, to be fair, I only really stop in NVG when I'm bored at work, so definitely don't know everything going on. However, I needed to see how someone's "human rights" were somehow being violated because of poker. Still waiting.
Curated!
I’m just doing a one day Fly By for Final Table but nice to see old friends and topics
Was wondering what happened to ya. Seems you split after a temp-ban, I’ve had a few myself over the years lol.
Manner reappears a year after his own thread was locked. I was hoping for an epilogue update from his phone calls to the Justice Department!