[Bodog/Bovada/Ignition] Unofficial Thread

The problem is, it's impossible (or at least very very difficult) to "prove" that something didn't happen, so you're setting up a logical issue where you can always feel like you won because while you can't prove that you were wronged (because you likely weren't), people can't prove that you weren't, because it's impossible especially with your small sample.

The HU issue has been explained to you. I don't know for a fact that it works like that, but it's very logical because that's how every other site works.

The "randomly distributed" issue is a non-issue, it just makes no sense. There is no random distribution of stacks because poker is a fluid game. If 8 people bust on one table in the same time that 4 people bust on another, the first table is going to have more chips on it. Those chips don't have anywhere outside that one table to go. It's a closed system.

The "tanking and table changes" also makes no sense, and also cannot be proven (or disproven), because the hand histories don't show if you call for time, only if you timeout.

If you'd like to escrow 1k, I'll be glad to run you through an intro to statistics class. If you think you're being cheated, you should be happy that the people cheating you are so bad at cheating that redic win rates are achievable. If you morally cannot get over the fact that you think you're being cheated, I suggest you find a new place to play because that'll be the only thing that soothes you, as it's clear that your complaints are falling on deaf ears. Although I'd guess that any other site you start playing on, you'll find new ways you feel you're being cheated, and at some point it might be time to look inward. Maybe you'll have better luck posting on the 93,000 post "poker is rigged" thread? https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/28/di...

Maybe what you can do instead is use some of that bravado and accounting prowess to post several years worth of your buy-ins and ROI on Bovada for him to see. You know, since you love statistics so much.

RHB is right, you can't prove something didn't happen. The only real proof of something not existing is an absence of evidence. When you consider all the possibilities in poker, looking at individual hands or small samples means that this is an almost impossible task.

An easier way to suggest that the poster doesn't know what they're talking about is the hu btn distribution. If you have not worked out that the first player sat ALWAYS has the btn hu, then you are probably not best placed to guess at whether the site is rigged or not.

Iggy/bodog is legit, at least in the sense that they have a long standing reputation for paying out, and almost no decent reg thinks that the site is rigged. That reputation is taking a pretty blatant hit with the recent bots and security's woeful inability to stop collusion but those are separate issues.

Anyone still crushing these games? Reading the recent pages of this thread all I see is gloom and doom. Seems the glory days are long gone and its not even worth grinding here anymore.

Anyone else think the collusion and/or bots (or colluding bots) problem has gotten worse over the last month or so? Last December- February was really bad, then it seemed to get better as the year went on. However, since maybe like late October it has felt like they have started to come back and it seems particularly bad over the last few weeks.

Could also just be an influx of regs and/or negative variance on my end that is making me sense this, so I could be wrong. I haven't seen any outright crazy collusion like last year (the raising the river thing with you in-between) but I do see some suspicious preflop activity between people I have marked as a suspected colluder/bot.

Just wondering what others that play 200NL and 500NL regular tables think.

From my experiences, the most colluded tables are at NL200 Zone,during slow periods and NL500 Zone anytime since it is always slow there..

Client won’t open on mobile or desktop for anyone else right now?

Same.

Samesies.

Been down for the past few hours. This is happening every few days now..

Back up

I am DONE playing tournaments on Bovada. Was making a deep run in the $25 10K Holiday tournament and couldn’t log back in for hours. Only cash games for me now..

Almost made progress on my week old withdrawal today, was told to open the chat feature through email, then someone actually responded on the chat, they asked me to upload an image of my id and face, 2 minutes later the chat system says that it will be closed for inactivity and that I have 60 seconds to send a message or the connection will be closed.

By the time I upload the image, the chat is closed and can't send a message again. Trying to open another chat doesn't even get me to a human response.

I will get the money eventually.

There is some merit to playing on this website as a novelty of playing on a bad site. It's like those bad restaurants where they treat you like **** and the food is cold, but it's juuust good enough that you don't have to worry about indigestion or getting your food spat on.

i play SNG for a living.. show me the hands and ill tell you if its collusion or if you just dont understand how to play a bubble

Tried the chat again today, selected the English version of the site, and wrote the message in english (which had to be replaced with a hello, because writing a long message deactivated the "send message" button".)

Claudio answered in spanish immediately asking a picture, then asked two more pictures and told me he would contact another team and they would answer in 24 to 48 hours (i've been here before)

So I'm getting the full experience, round-trip, full service.

Bonus round: Claudio asked me to stay online to rate my experience, like a customer satisfaction survey. But the chat just said connection close, no survey, no stars, no thumbs up to click, nothing.

Stay tuned for more adventures with the worst decent poker room.

Solved. Withdrawal processed.

Actually got a decent point drop from Bovada for all their recent disconnections,

Received $120 worth of Bovada points which is good for about $100 of tournament buy ins..👍

I tried to play a SNG today on Bodog and the game wouldn't load. I obviously ended up getting blinded out.
I tried multiple times on website and client.

Has anyone experienced this as of late and possible solution?

You have to find the tournament lobby, open it, and click on take my seat.

That's exactly what I did on desktop, client, and mobile.
"Take my seat"
did not open when I clicked on it. I kept it open for more than 10 minutes at one point.
I tried again, tried a different method and still wouldn't open.

Did you close and reopen the client and click on take my seat?

I've had this happen with the rematch function in HU SNG.

Maybe try contacting support and notifying of they issue, maybe they can offer a refund.

Yes!!! Multiple attempts

This happened to me today as well, very frustrating. It eventually let me back in after trying over and over.

this thread is just constant complaining of awful software glitches, no refunds, or suspected collusion/botting. yet you all continue to give them action. i withdrew all my money from here months ago. make a stand and force them to make a change

For the first time in a number of years, I have decided to move on from Bodog as well. One too many things have fallen short. So I'll be taking action elsewhere.

Hopefully they eventually sort out the variety of issues.

I'm looking to get money onto my ignition account (ideally $500-1000). Is the Ignition Forum marketplace to buy a voucher or player transfer still the best way to do that?