1/3 Grinding and Bankroll

1/3 Grinding and Bankroll

Hi all,

First post in this specific forum. Normally post in NL Strategy. Hoping for some feedback about bankroll management.

I started playing 4-5 times a week at MGM National Harbor in March after a few months off. Previously I had been playing at MD Live and lost most of what I had won (around $1,200). Anyway, I took $200 to the casino and tried my luck. No bankroll to start really.

I had a great March (+$3,000) but a terrible April (-$3,000) after trying 2/5 and losing $1k and a horrific 24-hour session where I dumped $1,800 in just cooler after cooler (set over set, AK into AA, nut flush v. boat, etc.). This month I'm up around $1,000 so far. Any tips about bankroll management that can keep me from losing it all again? Do you set some of your winnings aside for example?

I have a somewhat steady income outside of poker but my goal is to make poker a supplement to that income and not just a break-even hobby.

Appreciate the feedback.

Thanks,
DT

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07 May 2018 at 09:28 PM
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by DumbosTrunk k

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“he’s not connected to reality, he’s psychotic.” Obviously very hurtful to me in particular....
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... He has no power over me.

The contradiction is pretty obv here

Why do you value some random idiots opinion at all?

"Who insults me, is my decision" (freely translated from german)
Thats an old citation from Klaus Kinski, and that approach would not only suit you very well, too.


^^I meant by giving him a taste of his own medicine I felt empowered. Obviously his comments were hurtful at first.

Played 10/10, as soon as I sat down action player said he was sitting out, so I was probably going to quit soon. I get it in twice in the meantime with QQTT9ds and AKJ92ds and break even. I say "see, I've been all in twice already without AA!" Then he asks if I'll do a flip for $3,000 and I counter for $1,500 and we agree. We break even in flips and we keep playing, so it seems like the flips turned him around on me. One hand the blind $300 is on and I open to $1,700 with AJ985ds and get it in against a set with a double gutter and mid pair and lose the main pot but chop the side. Also witnessed a $40,000 pot get scooped by action player's AJJ98, and I folded so-so AA pre to him once and it saved me my entire stack. I go on to win with top set a couple times and lose a couple AAs and call it a good night again.


Now that you explain it...

I should have understood that when reading it, am just in bad mood, sry.

Hope you at least like the citation, and keep doing well.


by Parasense k

Now that you explain it...

I should have understood that when reading it, am just in bad mood, sry.

Hope you at least like the citation, and keep doing well.

Yep, I like the citation, thanks for the good reminder.

Earlier than usual start today, which is fine because I prefer to start my day earlier anyway if possible. I feel like I crossed another weird milestone last night with the $1,500 flips and side bets on the $100 waterfall for time, giving more action to appease the action players and stay in the game's good graces. It's hard enough to get a seat as it is, you don't want the action player hating you on top of it for being too tight. Flips are neutral EV and I guess I am ok with them within reason, as long as there is no risk of ruin.


Slow start today, ran bad after a good start and then pushed some dead money around but the dead money was more alive than I expected and I got it in marginally. Then lost a multi-way all in shove fest with a ds T high rundown but won AKQQ9ds on A75r. Currently down a few hundo.

Edit: just got pretty lucky with KJJT9 on K63hh, iso’d dude I thought had the nfd and ran into a slowplayed middle set…river J..!


Wound up booking a good win at 1/2 5 before a seat finally opened up at 10/10, and literally my first hand I am dealt a monstrous AAQJTds and get in in four ways and scoop with top two on each board. Win another AA all in pre, chop another one, then lose flopped second nut flush on A-high flop to nut flush against a blind hand (lol) and called it a night up a tidy profit. For just 7 hours of sleep I am pretty impressed with myself!


Got solid sleep, exercise and music to start the day, stretched, used my back roller (the best…!), then hit the tables. Needed the extra snooze to make up for the other night and recoup from a few draining high stakes sessions in a row. They take way more energy out of me than the lower stakes games. More concentration and focus needed and more money on the line, and not nearly as much room for error. I’m not playing perfectly but well enough. Also game selecting and trying to get into the better of the two big games. Working out well. It’s already turning out to be a break out year.


Pretty slow session but honestly a nice respite from the crazy big gambling lately. Lost a couple AAs all in pre multi-way then won set over set and lost a little back. Up a little right now just coasting.


Been folding a lot and had a revelation that rather than being upset at being card dead I can be happy that I am not in a high stress situation where I have to wager chips and enjoy the break. Playing poker hands is stressful, but folding is not.

Also just taking a second to recognize myself for my cool accomplishments getting to this level of poker in a relatively short span of time. I can really say it was worth it!


A little runbad last night - literally and figuratively. I was not able to transfer to the juicy deep game because our table became short-handed and it was going to be a while before our game filled up anyway, so I just quit so get some sleep and not completely ruin my sleep schedule. Booked a small loss losing AA +flopped nut flush plus straight flush gutter to top set in 3! pot to table fish, also a couple bluffs called. Between that and the AAs all in pre it wasn't going to be my night, so I just racked up rather than play in a much lower-quality game where I would probably lose to the nits hoping for a seat in the good game.

Beautiful weather we're having lately. Not much better feelings than gradually waking up with a few lattes in a sunny room!


by DumbosTrunk k

Been folding a lot and had a revelation that rather than being upset at being card dead I can be happy that I am not in a high stress situation where I have to wager chips and enjoy the break. Playing poker hands is stressful, but folding is not.

I do the same - wow, two hours of easy decisions without a difficult spot!


Not the best day, won a little at the smaller game until called for 10/10 and lost KKQJ8ds all in pre to A66 and dsAA against another AA and non-AA and AKQ86ds with my nut flush draw on KT2 to TT at a low spr. Got a double with AA654ds against other 64 on A352, 5 otr. Game broke. Back at the small game trying to grind some of the losses back now.


Bad dream I was stuck piles in a hold 'em game and getting upset at this nit rec who flopped a set in a big pot against my top top...! Truly a nightmare.

Woke up super late for some reason, I usually sleep in after a losing session actually. Must be depression related to the loss.


Lost an AQQJds multi-way all in pre with the best hand preflop and my opponents with bleh low hands for the side pot blocking each other, pretty slow and uneventful session otherwise, just enjoying the mental break derived from folding a lot. Waiting for the game to come to me and the next upswing….

Given all the personal attacks that come with making yourself vulnerable by posting on this site and the sometimes spotty moderation in the other forums, moving forward I will be limiting my 2+2 contributions to this thread. I’ll be posting the interesting things that happen at the tables as before but I won’t be soliciting the community’s input in the other forums anymore. (Anyone is welcome as usual to chime in here.)

This thread has been a positive force for me lately and a credit to my success. Thanks to everyone following along and contributing supportively.


My couple bluffs didn't get through yesterday, I lost some in preflop all ins, lost AA862 on 579dd to a draw, lost OP+OESD to set, won one all in multiway QQ987ds, won a dsAA, won a top set against two straight draws, so made a comeback from my worst and ended stuck much less by the end. Finished the session with this nit reg starting me down while he tanked in a small pot trying to get whatever read he wanted before potting...I am just never paying this guy off no matter how hard he looks at me!

Schedule is totally out of whack now as I played a longer session to get unstuck.


Forgot to mention last night crotchety reg always bickering with players sits down and his rec neighbor is pissed at him for trying to get this woman at our table picked up for seating herself when it was open seating (reg had a transfer to our game but waited over an hour to speak up). They start arguing and the rec calls the floor and then kicks his chair hard, pushing him away, in front of the floor, lol. Floor politely asks him not to do that. Then other floor comes over and tells them both if they say one more word she's kicking them both out, the reg pipes up again "why should I get banned when he kicked me?", and she says they're out. Reg says he wants to file charges against the rec and security gets involved, it was quite the show. They both ended up getting the boot for at least the night. A lot of us regs at the table were hoping to free up some seats given who was on the list, lol.


Stuck after being up pretty decent, sorta frustrating, lost top pair and overs to top two in 3! pot spr under 1 (45/55) and AQJ88 against mega whale’s QQ432 all in pre (he would also call with much worse). Currently stuck a few hundo again. Didn’t play 10/10 as I arrived late and game broke soon anyway, it would have been annoying to get stuck in that game and have to grind the small game.


Ended up winning a few hundo after losing AJT83ds to 56889 on Q72dd my flush draw 4! Pot pre shipped flop he called and runner runner nut straight for him. Then lost to same player AQQJ2ds all in pre with dead money overlay to his KKQ32. Took a break to recharge and eat lunch, came back fresh and running good, making JJs full and getting paid. It’s turning out to be a long session but I’ll crash early tonight and wake up at a relatively normal time so I can be up during the day again. I hate waking up when it’s already dark and love sipping my lattes in the sun!


Lost top two double fd to set+fd, then a seat opened up at 10/10 and even though I had been playing all night and day I took a seat to try to make the long session worth it, and thankfully it worked out this time. Split AAnfd and wheel gutter to set multiway all in ott, won AQQ nfd multiway on J94hh, won nfd and pair to top set second nfd, to name a few. Ran good and played fine and made a tidy profit on the long 20-hour day! Woke up a bit earlier than I anticipated, but at least it's daylight out.


Took a nap and feel fresh now, going to wait for the new weekend promo to end (lots of noise and crowds and lines) before heading in for a session. Glad I put my big boy pants on and started playing the 10/10 again, been doing well. Much better game than the organized 25/25 which also runs but plays much tighter. The first open in both games is to $200 but the min buy in is lower in 10/10. I am buying in more lately anyway. Game selection ftw!


by DumbosTrunk k

Took a nap and feel fresh now, going to wait for the new weekend promo to end (lots of noise and crowds and lines) before heading in for a session. Glad I put my big boy pants on and started playing the 10/10 again, been doing well. Much better game than the organized 25/25 which also runs but plays much tighter. The first open in both games is to $200 but the min buy in is lower in 10/10. I am buying in more lately anyway. Game selection ftw!

gl gl


by pokerstudent#5004 k

gl gl

Thanks, gl to you too.

Took a nap this afternoon and got a seat at 10/10 early on, invited by the game organizer. I think the game was in danger of breaking and I won a lot the night before so I got the rare early invite. I got my butt handed to me losing AA three times all in pre and KK once to AA with an overlay. Also lost KK to JJ. I finally won a decent pot when they called me for the smaller game which I was planning on playing anyway as I was stuck a lot but less after the last pot. I quit and the organizer gave me a hard time saying he wasn’t inviting me anymore and don’t talk to him yaddah yaddah. But he was able to replace me with another dude waiting for a seat.

Whatever I gotta practice good bankroll management and can’t be in for a ton. It also messes with my head to be stuck that much. I remember the last and only time and I was in a totally different place.

Grinding 1/2 now running meh.


Losing here too. On the bright side, at least someone at 10/10 said “that takes real talent” and gave me a slap on the back when he found out I never get invited to the 25/25 plo game. Guess I’m doing something right.


Bleh, lost dsAJT98 with big overlay to KK, lost KQJT to AKQ8 on JT8r, 8A runout and he tabled KQ and I got the slowroll after I tabled my hand. Lost QJT9 on 984 to 4456. Lost AQT83ds to AA as well and AK nut hearts to AJT on A93Khh, offsuit Q on the river but I made the good laydown.

At least I’m not stuck $8k which I could have been if I ran this bad at 10/10. Still sucks to be losing this much after a really good day yesterday. I’m stuck in a so-so game running bleh and my transfer seems to be taking forever.

Edit: just lost top set to wrap in 3! pot too..


Wrapped up playing a little 25/25 after I zelle'd my friend some money for chips, won a few hundo before calling it a night and talking some hand histories with him. Wasn't my night last night no matter how I played it. One dude just had my number all night whether I got it in good or not. None of my AA held at 10/10 either. Sometimes poker is like that! Still a great month so far and it's not done yet. Got a ridiculous amount of sleep and woke up super late (big losing session=depression slumber, lol). Going to see what the action looks like memorial day weekend. My 1/2 plo results have been bleh this month but I have made up for them in the big games.

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