President Donald Trump
I assume it's still acceptable to have a Trump thread in a Politics forum?
So this is an obvious lie - basically aimed at
So we need to respect those precious snowflakes so they can ‘ill****ingdoitagain.jpeg’ regardless?
Ya **** that
The idea that people like mongo/juan/geezer/Blahblah etc etc are owed grace and decency is the most simp ass bullshit I’ve ever heard
In case no one has yet mentioned it, Trump now hates Marjorie Taylor Green and loves Zohran Mandami.
Do what you like.
I'm aware that people care less about the consequences of what feel good then some people might think
Sure. I guess we can describe political outcomes as purely a matter of preference and not objectively good or bad.
If a political candidate ran on a platform of ending all human life on earth as quickly as possible, I guess that would be a "good" outcome from chillrob's perspective.
Only to end all procreation, not current human life.
the same crowd think trump is stupid
and i doubt they think that trump thinks they are stupid. If you need to ammend by original post to those who make it so clear to them that they think they are stupid
Well I also didn’t say I thought Trump supporters on average are stupider (though I may or may not think that, there’s not much evidence either way besides college degrees). The point was about how people who think that they are stupid oftentimes also think that they know all the entailments of voting for Trump (hence the “you did vote for this” claim). It seems like there’s something conceptually confused about affirming both propositions simultaneously.
I'm not sure about the people who think they are stupid but if you're not saying trump voters are stupid then I have no problem with that. I'm not saying it either
Tame or train?
It’s a binary choice between the two major party candidates, so I don’t think there’s a strong inductive or deductive case that voting for Trump, even three times, means you support all his policies. That’s just FPTP voting systems.
You sound like Bill Maher - at 5.00
I can see how you would say that, but I think our points are a little bit different. Bill Maher is sympathetic to their reasons for voting for him, which is why he called it “closer to home”. I would say that a child being transitioned by an elementary school teacher is as far of an abstract worry as you could get, and ICE and National Guard patrolling your streets and deporting the abuela next door is as close to home as you can get. So I’m not at all convinced that there are reasons to sympathize with their concerns (there are liberal criticisms of wokeness and gender abolitionism anyway if we wanted to go that route).
My point is that anyone that votes for someone for the presidential ticket doesn’t need to sign on to all of those policies. You just need to think that the policies of one are better, on net, than the policies of the other. One side could have really bad policies, and the other side could just across the board have worse versions of those bad policies, and you should vote for the bad policies every time in that case. It’s closer preference, not perfect preference.
Except.... we know Trump and Project 2025.
Voting for candidate Not_Trump is a very viable option.
the same crowd think trump is stupid
and i doubt they think that trump thinks they are stupid. If you need to ammend by original post to those who make it so clear to them that they think they are stupid
He did say "smart people don't like me". That seems to get across the point..
Well I also didn’t say I thought Trump supporters on average are stupider (though I may or may not think that, there’s not much evidence either way besides college degrees).
Not much evidence other than the solid evidence. I think the people who voted for Trump and now regret it because "pRicEZ hAvENT gOnE DOWn" pretty much have to be stupid. Only a moron would think deflation in a high employment, healthy economy was a possibility. And of course the people that thought that were heavily white non college rurals who you would suspect of being dumb even before you knew they thought that.
Not much evidence other than the solid evidence. I think the people who voted for Trump and now regret it because "pRicEZ hAvENT gOnE DOWn" pretty much have to be stupid. Only a moron would think deflation in a high employment, healthy economy was a possibility. And of course the people that thought that were heavily white non college rurals who you would suspect of being du
Do you consider anecdotes to be good evidence? Because that’s what you just gave as good evidence.
I can see how you would say that, but I think our points are a little bit different. Bill Maher is sympathetic to their reasons for voting for him, which is why he called it “closer to home”. I would say that a child being transitioned by an elementary school teacher is as far of an abstract worry as you could get, and ICE and National Guard patrolling your streets
This should be almost the most trivially obvious observation imaginable. Yet, for some it isn't.
Not much evidence other than the solid evidence. I think the people who voted for Trump and now regret it because "pRicEZ hAvENT gOnE DOWn" pretty much have to be stupid. Only a moron would think deflation in a high employment, healthy economy was a possibility.
Fair enough.
That said, do you personally think that black non-college rurals are more dumb, less dumb, or as equally dumb as their white counterparts?
Thanks.
Do you consider anecdotes to be good evidence? Because that’s what you just gave as good evidence.
The good evidence is the college data as should have been clear to even the semi literate.
Fair enough.
That said, do you personally think that black non-college rurals are more dumb, less dumb, or as equally dumb as their white counterparts?
Thanks.
It's not relevant because black non college rurals and black PhD scientists vote the same way. White rurals do not vote the same as white science PhDs so their high levels of stupidity are a major issue.
It's not relevant because black non college rurals and black PhD scientists vote the same way. White rurals do not vote the same as white science PhDs so their high levels of stupidity are a major issue.
Nice dodge. (Which I kinda expected, because you ignored a similar question in another thread iirc.)
Relevant in this particular context or not, how would you answer my question as asked.
Remember, you introduced the 'dumb non-college rural whites' angle.
It's not a dodge. I am explaining to you why it's not relevant and why the dumb white rurals angle is. Nobody is saying that only white rurals are dumb so you are completely missing the issue.
It's not relevant because black non college rurals and black PhD scientists vote the same way. White rurals do not vote the same as white science PhDs so their high levels of stupidity are a major issue.
I don't think white science PhDs are as stupid as you think they are. 😀
That said, the conclusion does not logically follow from your premise. DUCY?
Again your listing everything wrong with Trump. Im not denying that
List reasons to vote for Kamala other than she is not Trump
She had no platform, scared of the media . She might have one if the campaign was less than a month
kamala reasons is irrelevant when you face someone like trump....
but if u need some pretty easy :
Except.... we know Trump and Project 2025.
Voting for candidate Not_Trump is a very viable option.
adding some other points
she would uphold the law
uphold the constitution
she is not a criminal
she is not a constant liar
she is not a POS basically.
It's not relevant because black non college rurals and black PhD scientists vote the same way. White rurals do not vote the same as white science PhDs so their high levels of stupidity are a major issue.
Premise: White non college rurals do not vote the same as white science PhDs.
Premise: Black non college rurals vote the same as black science PhDs.
Conclusion: The high levels of stupidity of white rurals are a major issue.
