President Donald Trump

President Donald Trump

I assume it's still acceptable to have a Trump thread in a Politics forum?

So this is an obvious lie - basically aimed at

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28 April 2019 at 04:18 AM
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by checkraisdraw

My mistake, it seemed as if you were saying that because some individual Trump supporters spoke highly of tariffs and now complain about prices being too high it should be obvious that Trump supporters are stupid. But if that’s not what you were referring to as good evidence then my apologies.I do have my doubts about whether people who go to college are actually more intellige

It's not just college vs non college, higher degree holders skew even harder against Trump.

But people keep getting caught up on Dems who didn't go to college which is again heavily irrelevant for many if not all dem demographics.

An another example would be something like Covid vaccination. People who understand what T tests are and can pass a basic stats class of course got vaccinated at very high rates. Most people that don't know what T tests are still got vaccinated at high rates. So when you drill down to the people who didn't get vaccinated ie rogan bros, white college rurals etc the fact that they are idiots is highly relevant even though plenty of other idiots managed to get the right answer.


by geezerchess

Please explain which parts of your argument I got wrong.

Thanks.

I never presented my argument as a syllogism. My opinion that high levels of stupidity in white rurals is an issue is either reasonable or not. But you completely made up the notion that it should follow directly from 2 premises completely on your own lol


by jalfrezi

chez is doing his usual thing of pretending that a tiny forum of political nerds represents the electorate.

Not remotely but you sayng/ doing something stupid doesn't mean you are stupid


by pocket_zeros

Top MAGA Influencers Accidentally Unmasked as Foreign Trolls

This should obviously be a surprise to absolutely nobody

and this will obviously not cause a single maga shitposter to care


by ecriture d'adulte

Lack of intelligence and rural culture problems are of course a big part of it. But these people only know what they know.

considering the forum's policy on eugenics, it's amazing you never caught a perma


by chezlaw

sayng something stupid doesn't mean you are stupid

Oh word?


by rickroll

considering the forum's policy on eugenics, it's amazing you never caught a perma

its ok when Dems do it. thats how fascism works nowadays.


by ecriture d'adulte

It's not relevant because black non college rurals and black PhD scientists vote the same way. White rurals do not vote the same as white science PhDs so their high levels of stupidity are a major issue.

and again, if a new account came in, made this as their first post and flipped white and black - even if they posted scientific articles supporting the thesis - they'd eat a perma within hours


by Rococo

I would say that it is at least debatable whether Plato believed in gods at all, and he certainly doesn't seem to have believed in the gods as they were described in Greek mythology.

i could be mistaken (been known to happen) but i think you're missing his grander point that the cultural conditions under which you were born can dramatically increase the propensity of an otherwise genius intellect to believe in some pretty irrational things so simple existence of belief in some irrational stuff doesn't require innate stupidity

if we looked over most of human history, the vast majority of the smartest people to ever exist believed in some pretty crazy things - it's only really those growing up in the modern west who are able to be raised where such beliefs are optional


by StoppedRainingMen

This should obviously be a surprise to absolutely nobody

and this will obviously not cause a single maga shitposter to care

Right. No one is unfollowing their favorite manufactured account that conveniently reinforces all their worldviews.


by StoppedRainingMen

This should obviously be a surprise to absolutely nobody

and this will obviously not cause a single maga shitposter to care

i like seeing this confirmed but i always thought this was pretty widely known that social media is often dominated by people in impoverished countries who are more willing to take the leap and gamble 8 hours a day developing a twitter account in hopes of gaining enough followers to sell some stuff later on - whether they chose maga or whatever was more a choice of what they think will trend hard enough to capture an audience than anything nefarious or ideological

it's just a longer con version of the nigerian prince email


by chezlaw

Not remotely but you sayng/ doing something stupid doesn't mean you are stupid

One constant here is you arguing that posts calling Trumpers stupid affects the outcomes of elections.


by rickroll

i like seeing this confirmed but i always thought this was pretty widely known that social media is often dominated by people in impoverished countries who are more willing to take the leap and gamble 8 hours a day developing a twitter account in hopes of gaining enough followers to sell some stuff later on - whether they chose maga or whatever was more a choice of what they th

Widely? Not at all. If you’re a techie, sure, but most Americans aren’t.

Manufactured accounts, bots, and AI are currently doing a hell of a number on a sizable portion of the population. Will surely only get worse.


Deepfakes will be a nightmare, well, even more so, when they start getting more widely used.


by rickroll

i could be mistaken (been known to happen) but i think you're missing his grander point that the cultural conditions under which you were born can dramatically increase the propensity of an otherwise genius intellect to believe in some pretty irrational things so simple existence of belief in some irrational stuff doesn't require innate stupidityif we looked over most of human

I didn't miss the point. Nor do I disagree with the point. I was just noting that he chose a less than ideal example with which to make the point.


by chezlaw

Not remotely but you sayng/ doing something stupid doesn't mean you are stupid

Supposedly smart people do stupid things all the time. Orwell observed that some political ideas are so stupid that only clever people can dupe themselves into believing them.


by rickroll

considering the forum's policy on eugenics, it's amazing you never caught a perma

Dude, what?


by Montrealcorp

Let’s put it this way .If you aren’t a millionaire, voting trump thinking he was to make life better for the bottom 60% of the population was incredibly stupid .Like any dumb people voting red for decades and still be at the bottom of the poorest states in the US after all this time and still believing it will change !Now they can be happy in their shitholes and it

Right, if they still approved of Trump that would be one thing, but Trump's numbers on the economy have gone from around even to ~ -17. In just 10 months. After he was already president for 4 years. And after he ran one of the most economically illiterate campaigns of all time. It's hard to find any justification for these people's beliefs, especially the ones he's screwed over quite directly, without accepting they are just dumb.


by jalfrezi

One constant here is you arguing that posts calling Trumpers stupid affects the outcomes of elections.

In a minuscule way but as a student of all my posts you must know I have many times pointed out that the name callers don't even represent the left or the progressives.


by Crossnerd

Dude, what?

Can you confirm if the forum pro or anti eugenics? I'm sure Sklansky would be pro.

If pro, can you eugenise Victor from the thread? I don't think he'd mind as it sounds like 'genocide'.


by thethethe

Can you confirm if the forum pro or anti eugenics? I'm sure Sklansky would be pro.

If pro, can you eugenise Victor from the thread? I don't think he'd mind as it sounds like 'genocide'.

Wild, it's almost like those words have the same root or something.


by StoppedRainingMen

This should obviously be a surprise to absolutely nobody

and this will obviously not cause a single maga shitposter to care

Sad but true .

Which is what make them Stupid.
Knowing facts and still disregarding it .

The world is flat , show then a picture of earth from space .
But the earth still flat …


by chezlaw

Not remotely but you sayng/ doing something stupid doesn't mean you are stupid

It depends


by rickroll

i could be mistaken (been known to happen) but i think you're missing his grander point that the cultural conditions under which you were born can dramatically increase the propensity of an otherwise genius intellect to believe in some pretty irrational things so simple existence of belief in some irrational stuff doesn't require innate stupidityif we looked over most of human

Yeah even if we discard Plato’s polytheism, what about Newton’s belief in alchemy and other esoterica? It’s not hard to find smart people with crazy or weird beliefs.


by Rococo

I didn't miss the point. Nor do I disagree with the point. I was just noting that he chose a less than ideal example with which to make the point.

What I know of Plato is mostly through his writings, where it appeared he believed in the pantheon of gods and also believed in the Form of the Good, which is sort of similar to an idea of the perfect being which would be popularized by Agustine.

But it’s at least debatable and there are better examples.

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