President Donald Trump
I assume it's still acceptable to have a Trump thread in a Politics forum?
So this is an obvious lie - basically aimed at
Never in the history of the world has there been a NYC real estate magnate who was a true political outsider. There is simply no way to be both things.
Never in the history of the world has there been a NYC real estate magnate who was a true political outsider. There is simply no way to be both things.
He seems to think a political outsider is someone who hasn’t held office. If that’s his definition, then I guess Trump is a political outsider. It doesn’t seem to capture my own feelings about what that word means, so we may be speaking past each other.
Kennedy family net worth was billions of dollars (inflation adjusted) when he ran. LBJ had over 100 million which would make him close to or a billionaire inflation adjusted. Herbert Hoover and Teddy Roosevelt were quite rich, also billionaires inflation
George Washington was worth 500 million also from largely passed down wealth.
There's no question Trump is a high end genius in many ways; the best of the best. You don't survive and thrive in the New York Real Estate market for decades including through major downturns which killed other high flyers, or brand at a global level that well, or win the most powerful/contested presidency in the world against two hostile incumbent parties as a pure outsider,
Can you provide any video evidence in which you believe Trump is exhibiting his high level genius?
Can you provide any video evidence in which you believe Trump is exhibiting his high level genius?
No one could provide such evidence.
He seems to think a political outsider is someone who hasn’t held office. If that’s his definition, then I guess Trump is a political outsider. It doesn’t seem to capture my own feelings about what that word means, so we may be speaking past each other.
And if Trump were to stay in power for 20 years, he'd still call him a political outsider.
mong's going to need a cold shower now...
20 years? The ass hole can't stay awake twenty minutes pumped full of every substance known to science.
He seems to think a political outsider is someone who hasn’t held office. If that’s his definition, then I guess Trump is a political outsider. It doesn’t seem to capture my own feelings about what that word means, so we may be speaking past each other.
Trump obviously was not an outsider to power, influence and the world of the wealthy, which definitely exists in an overlapping Venn diagram to politics.
But in 2015 it is fair to say that he was certainly an outsider to established politics, with a new type of campaign, a new type of rhetoric and likely the first president to win an election largely on the power of social media.
However, once he won the election, the ball truly started rolling and the heads of GOP leadership that opposed or doubted the MAGA movement started to roll. By 2020, GOP abandoned the idea of full-fledged party platform and instead stated that it was now all about supporting Trump. Trump had already been the kingmaker of the GOP for last 2 years, but this made it official.
In 2024, Trump's campaign had complete dominance of the GOP. The world's richest man went all-in on his campaign and support of Trump, and Musk had already bought the world's most influential social media network for politics, a social media which was now weaponized and gamed to support Trump. Conservative US media and social media was by in Trump's corner to the extent that it is fair to say it was no longer independent. If Trump's campaign and circle gave marching orders, they followed. When he won the 2024 election, the most powerful owners and leaders of American tech and industry was onboard as well.
On the ideological side of things, classical conservatism was dead in the water. Unitary Executive Theory and Project 2025 had combined, and now Trumpism was not merely a political path to power, it had formed as basic ideology of which to shape the US republic. Sweeping reforms would ensure that independence of government agency was destroyed and placed directly under control of Trump, powers historically and traditionally seen as belonging to congress would be re-interpreted as belonging to the Trump. A non-government agency (DOGE) under the official leadership of no-one was given the combined powers of a department and the presidential office, and these ideas were broadly instituted under the guise of budget cuts.
A politically impotent GOP majority in both houses of congress beholden to Trump for political power, and a conservative supreme court majority that in 2024 declared it had the power to declare what acts of a presidency would be subject to the rule of law combined to make sure this enormous expansion and centralization of executive power would go almost unchecked, as long it was Trump doing it.
By 2026, this has expanded to the point where Trump argues that he has the legal power to control American elections. Considering his administration sought to rig and influence the 2020 election in his favour, it is fairly transparent what the current administration is seeking this power for.
At this point, calling Trump an outsider is absurd. The man has more power over the US than George III had over the American colonies. Oversight and checks and balances are almost dead in the water, and the only chink in his armour is waning trust in the populace which is starting to sink his popularity, and the absolute distrust he faces in the political opposition.
Please tell me that you truly believe the price of oil only affects the price of the gasoline you put in your car. I didn't think such people actually existed.
You have people here so provably economically illiterate they want to prevent everyone from accumulating multiple billions (great way to hurt the poor, not quite as good as communism but it's up there), and you're taking issue with the gasoline comment?
We have this measure called inflation. You might have heard of it. It's literally closely measured every month. There is no meaningful change in the price of non-fuel goods yet from the Iran war. Here is YoY Core CPI (excluding food and energy)
And Food CPI tracks that as well (no meaningful change).
So yes, gasoline and flights (hard to argue flights hurt the poor?) are literally the only thing increased in price. And after 3 months of oil shock, they show no sign of increasing yet.
So your mockery is reflected back. As a wise mod once said
This might change in time if this drags on far longer, but as of right now, the "poor" are hurt to the tune of $15/week from extra gas prices, if they even drive.
If Trump succeeds in Iran, it's well worth the cost (the Middle East is a hotbed of death and disorder largely because of Iran) and he's right. If he doesn't, different story.
Y'all need to stop listening to hysterical media and think for yourselves. So far economies are doing just fine from the oil "shock", as are markets, and the only impact on prices is limited to fuel so far
3 months is nothing. Once it is open, it's going to take another 6 months just to clear the mines. It'll be some time before oil is flowing reliably again.
You have people here so provably economically illiterate they want to prevent everyone from accumulating multiple billions (great way to hurt the poor, not quite as good as communism but it's up there), and you're taking issue with the gasoline comment?We have this measure called inflation. You might have heard of it. It's literally closely measured every month. There is no mea
Do you really think that I am unaware of the concept of inflation or unable to find data about it? I was commenting on the idiocy of your suggestion that oil prices only affect gasoline prices as a general matter, which is obviously not true. For reasons that should be obvious to you as a supposedly economically literate person, inflation is also an imperfect measure of the impact of oil prices on pricing because inflation is multifactorial. But even if that were not true, you know exactly why the impact has been blunted so far:
The Bureau of Labor Statistics’ Consumer Price Index for last month will be released at 8:30 a.m. ET Wednesday. Economists surveyed by Dow Jones expect it will show the annual rate of inflation hit 4.2%, well above the 2.4% level it hit before the war and its highest point since early 2023.
“High energy prices will again provide upward pressure, although potentially less than in the previous two months,” analysts at Lloyd’s Bank said.
Since the war with Iran started, oil prices have risen nearly 40%, although they are well off their highs for the year. U.S. crude oil briefly rose to more than $115 per barrel in early April.
Retail gasoline prices have fallen in turn by 40 cents from their high this year. But consumers filling up at the pump are still paying around 40% more on average than they did before the war began.
There could be more pain to come. Executives and analysts warn that the moderating prices don’t account for a growing problem. Energy stockpiles are being drained rapidly to make up for oil that can’t make it out of the Strait of Hormuz, and they could reach critical low levels by the end of June, according to some observers.
Once that happens, prices will “shoot up,” Exxon Mobil executive Neil Chapman said at a Bernstein investment conference last month.
https://www.nbcnews.com/business/energy/...
And even if the price of oil only affected the price of gasoline, and even if the effect could be limited to gasoline prices indefinitely, there are still a significant number of people who are living month to month who are affected very directly by the price of gasoline (taxi drivers, ride share drivers, food delivery workers, contractors, etc.).
You have people here so provably economically illiterate they want to prevent everyone from accumulating multiple billions (great way to hurt the poor, not quite as good as communism but it's up there), and you're taking issue with the gasoline comment?We have this measure called inflation. You might have heard of it. It's literally closely measured every month. There is no mea
You’ll never, ever be loved and will die alone. Enjoy.
Hey look at that, mongo’s new best friend turns out to also be a ****ing moron
Who coulda guessed
I never saw 4d chess but I did see decent principles and pressure and strategy sanely applied. As well as a vision of the future. Getting Europe to get off their lazy asses and pay for their own defense in 2018 was huge, and because of it they can now fully cover the Ukraine war. And he had a solid long term vision. One of my favorite vids is Trump at the UN in 2018 warning Ger
I don’t know about your math skills but I only commute 10 miles each way to work and buy 30-40 galleons of gas each week. Prices here were up 1.00-1:50 per gallon. So it is costing me on average $30-45 a week simply of gas purchases, let alone the inflationary effect it has on everything else.
I don’t know about your math skills but I only commute 10 miles each way to work and buy 30-40 galleons of gas each week. Prices here were up 1.00-1:50 per gallon. So it is costing me on average $30-45 a week simply of gas purchases, let alone the inflationary effect it has on everything else.
The irony of you talking about math skills and in the same breath saying you commute 10 miles yet buy 30-40 gallons of gas a week. Too funny.
I did not put in my commute because of gas mileage, moron. I included it because it is 50% shorter than the national average commute.
I don’t know about your math skills but I only commute 10 miles each way to work and buy 30-40 galleons of gas each week. Prices here were up 1.00-1:50 per gallon. So it is costing me on average $30-45 a week simply of gas purchases, let alone the inflationary effect it has on everything else.
It sounds like your car is leaking gas.
I once asked a boat guy how many miles per gallon he got. He said it's gallons per mile 😮
This was in Ventura CA where you can pull your boat right up to your house.
