President Donald Trump

President Donald Trump

I assume it's still acceptable to have a Trump thread in a Politics forum?

So this is an obvious lie - basically aimed at

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28 April 2019 at 04:18 AM
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by 57 On Red

Oil price rises tend to increase the price of all agricultural and manufactured goods, for obvious reasons to do with energy expenditure and the importance of petrochemical products to key industries.

Sure, this is the scary media take (fertilizers, transportation, etc etc are gonna have shocks), giving you the hand picked scariest stories so you click them, which is so often wrong (example: remember

? NYT columnjist and Nobel prize winning economist:

[quote=Paul Krugman, November 9 2016]]It really does now look like President Donald J. Trump, and markets are plunging. When might we expect them to recover?

Frankly, I find it hard to care much, even though this is my specialty. The disaster for America and the world has so many aspects that the economic ramifications are way down my list of things to fear.

Still, I guess people want an answer: If the question is when markets will recover, a first-pass answer is never.[/quote]
[For those playing along at home: the answer was one day, then soaring to new highs and stability]

(but I digress)

Oil might hurt other prices and supply chains. It might not. It hasn't shown up yet, though as i made clear. The claim was "people are hurting" but the data doesn't support this at the current time. Market is at all time highs and inflation hasn't shown up. You scream disaster. I say wait. 20% of global oil is not much, particularly when buffered by reserves for some months yet, and the bottom 20% being mostly useless fluff or unproductive ultra-poor who have alternatives. To put it in perspective: Inflation is 3% per year baseline. The extra cost of oil here is 0.7% of global income per year. If it lasts a year.

To the guy who spends 30-40 gallons per week commuting 10 miles per day: Wow. 'Merica lol.


We might get everyone on the forum to agree that Paul Krugman is an idiot.


by amplify

I once asked a boat guy how many miles per gallon he got. He said it's gallons per mile 😮

This was in Ventura CA where you can pull your boat right up to your house.

It’s is insane but unfortunately you can’t ski behind a sailboat.


by amplify

I once asked a boat guy how many miles per gallon he got. He said it's gallons per mile 😮

This was in Ventura CA where you can pull your boat right up to your house.

Mine gets about 1.5 mpg. Plus, boat gas is about $2.00 a gallon more than at the pump. We don't go fishing near as much as we used to.


by StoppedRainingMen

Hey look at that, mongo’s new best friend turns out to also be a ****ing moron

Who coulda guessed

which previously banned ****** is this guy?


by 72off

which previously banned ****** is this guy?

I don't know, but I am going to speculate that our new friend isn't a previously banned poster, but rather is our old friend hole in wan, aka juan valdez. pokerandfootlover started posting around the time the hole in wan account was last active, and juan (like pokerandfootlover) was a fan of talking about how people are "economically illiterate."


it can get way more expensive, but the entry level for tuna fishing up in maine is a used grady white that'll run you 25-40k up front, an engine replacement every decade for 10-15k, a few thousand a year in maintenance, and around $200 in gas every time you go out

assuming the boat lasts 30 years before needing replacement (by then you're too old to haul a tuna in anyway), and you go out 20 times a year with a 60% catch rate, so you get 12 tuna a year, you're looking at around $270k total for 30 years of fishing

broken down annually it's about $9k a year or about $450 a trip assuming you put in heavy volume - most people only go 5-10 times a year


by Rococo

I don't know, but I am going to speculate that our new friend isn't a previously banned poster, but rather is our old friend hole in wan, aka juan valdez. pokerandfootlover started posting around the time the hole in wan account was last active, and juan (like pokerandfootlover) was a fan of talking about how people are "economically illiterate."

yeah that makes sense. thanks


by rickroll

it can get way more expensive, but the entry level for tuna fishing up in maine is a used grady white that'll run you 25-40k up front, an engine replacement every decade for 10-15k, a few thousand a year in maintenance, and around $200 in gas every time you go outassuming the boat lasts 30 years before needing replacement (by then you're too old to haul a tuna in anyway), and y

And if if you get a huge haul you still might run into the perfect storm.

And Paul Krugman is a joke.


by biggerboat

Mine gets about 1.5 mpg. Plus, boat gas is about $2.00 a gallon more than at the pump. We don't go fishing near as much as we used to.

Is this like some 24ft v8? I had a 1996 Ski Nautique and a 2001 bayliner Capri and 3-4 seemed to be the avg. Lake fishing has mostly gotten better than 20-30 years ago because the boat traffic and the number of skiers is noticeably down.


by jjjou812

It’s is insane but unfortunately you can’t ski behind a sailboat.

Making an outsized contribution to the climate crisis is worth it for a little water skiing.


by Rococo

I don't know, but I am going to speculate that our new friend isn't a previously banned poster, but rather is our old friend hole in wan, aka juan valdez. pokerandfootlover started posting around the time the hole in wan account was last active, and juan (like pokerandfootlover) was a fan of talking about how people are "economically illiterate."

I don’t think so, he has more emotional regulation than wan


by formula72

Is this like some 24ft v8? I had a 1996 Ski Nautique and a 2001 bayliner Capri and 3-4 seemed to be the avg. Lake fishing has mostly gotten better than 20-30 years ago because the boat traffic and the number of skiers is noticeably down.

30' with twin 250s.

We went on a whale watching tour out of he same place the wicked tuna guys fish out of. We saw them. They weren't more than 10 miles offshore. Where I am you have to go 35 miles just to get to 100' deep water.


by jjjou812

It’s is insane but unfortunately you can’t ski behind a sailboat.

not with that attitude smdh


by campfirewest

Making an outsized contribution to the climate crisis is worth it for a little water skiing.

All the cool Gen Z's wake surf now. It's mostly the Xrs trying to et up on a kneeboard with 50 ft of rope behind some bass boat. Wake surfing is worse for the boat and your milage goes to **** when you're going 8 mphs under constant load so someone can pretend that they are surfing a big wave.


by biggerboat

30' with twin 250s.

We went on a whale watching tour out of he same place the wicked tuna guys fish out of. We saw them. They weren't more than 10 miles offshore. Where I am you have to go 35 miles just to get to 100' deep water.

1.5 sounds pretty good now. Youd probably enjoy it more now for several reasons - I certainly do.


by jjjou812

I did not put in my commute because of gas mileage, moron. I included it because it is 50% shorter than the national average commute.

What's your point? You said you buy 30-40 gallons of gas a week and your commute is 10 miles each way - that's 20 miles which is about 1 gallon of gas maybe a little less. Your math makes no sense unless outside of your commute you drive 600 miles a week? Are you that dense?


by biggerboat

Where I am you have to go 35 miles just to get to 100' deep water.

That's what I like. The Caribbean etc. Warm, shallow water. The Pacific ocean is a thelassic nightmare the bottom of the ocean just drops off a ****ing cliff and I'm feeling like we are at the mercy of an unforgiving and merciless God.


by pokerandfootlover

You have people here so provably economically illiterate they want to prevent everyone from accumulating multiple billions (great way to hurt the poor, not quite as good as communism but it's up there), and you're taking issue with the gasoline comment?We have this measure called inflation. You might have heard of it. It's literally closely measured every month. There is no mea

You literally can't make this stuff up. It's hysterical.



What came before that just as much a farce.

President Donald Trump nearly forgot to sign the legislation that he summoned members of Congress and the press into the Oval Office for.

In typical Trump fashion, the signing turned into a winding press conference as Trump took questions on several topics unrelated to the legislation, a $70 billion bill that funds immigration enforcement agencies until the end of his term.

After the 79-year-old president got sick of the questions, telling the press, “Thank you very much,” in a cue for them to leave, White House aides began to usher the press away.

When a member of Congress standing behind him finally pointed out that he had yet to sign the bill, Trump gestured toward the press and replied: “They’re the only ones that matter.”

He then began attacking his predecessor.

“See, Biden wouldn’t do this. He’d need a machine,” he claimed as he took out a Sharpie to sign the legislation.

Trump spent most of the Oval Office event rambling, spending much time boasting about his new reflecting pool on the National Mall, and even declaring at one point, “I love the inflation” when asked about the latest inflation report.


The irony of a trump-loving dishpit calling anyone else economically illiterate whilst trying to claim gas prices haven't and won't affect inflation is...STUNNING.

Other people are financially illiterate but raising taxes on people with over a billion dollars will hurt poor people and gas prices and the ridiculous war won't affect inflation.

I need to sit down a second. This is too much.


by Gorgonian

The irony of a trump-loving dishpit calling anyone else economically illiterate whilst trying to claim gas prices haven't and won't affect inflation is...STUNNING.Other people are financially illiterate but raising taxes on people with over a billion dollars will hurt poor people and gas prices and the ridiculous war won't affect inflation.I need to sit down a second. This is t

I hope you realize Biden had the worst inflation rates under any sitting President since the 1980s. The economy was completely in the shitter under him - I know facts are tough for you guys but you can google it 😀


by pokerfan655

I hope you realize Biden had the worst inflation rates under any sitting President since the 1980s. The economy was completely in the shitter under him - I know facts are tough for you guys but you can google it 😀

Have you ever compared the inflation graph with the dates of Trump's 2 year deal with opec to cut oil production? Would you like to do that together?

the yellow is the duration of Trump's 2 year deal with OPEC. The line is inflation.


Now, can you think of any reason that opec cutting production might cause prices to rise? Can you think of a way that Joe Biden might have caused Donald Trump to sign this 2 year deal? Can you think of any reason why this should be blamed on Joe Biden and not Donald Trump?

Glad we had this talk.


by amplify

We might get everyone on the forum to agree that Paul Krugman is an idiot.

She passed away in 2016, but a friend of mine who was also an Economics professor at Chico State University liked Krugman a lot. (She was a Progressive and was a fan of Bernie Sanders, but passed away before the election in 2016.)


by Rococo

I don't know, but I am going to speculate that our new friend isn't a previously banned poster, but rather is our old friend hole in wan, aka juan valdez. pokerandfootlover started posting around the time the hole in wan account was last active, and juan (like pokerandfootlover) was a fan of talking about how people are "economically illiterate."

Maybe. Th new guy seems far more articulate that Juan. It could be Luciom.

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