President Donald Trump

Yes i respect the rules of places i am a guest of

Yes it is and yes you predicted that. Only detail is that this wasn't an outright defiant refusal to comply. They stopped deporting people there right? so they have the fig leaf which you define as "doesn't pass the red face test" of why they didn't comply for a minuscule portion of the deported people alread on planes.

My "role" isn't to justify everything they do , mind. It only looks like that because i am in a place where most people are fervently anti-trump to the point of defying logic (not you ofc, you are always one of the sharpest people around).

But elsewhere i am actually the person telling the MAGA guys that no, DOGE isn't going to reduce the federal deficit by 2 trillions, you know what i mean?

I love the counterbalancing power of courts.

But i also can accept when they behave excessively, especially with forum shopping at the district level and nationwide injunctions.

We can only wait for SCOTUS on this topic though. I hope they put limits to nationwide injuctions at the district level. Keep in mind for now plaintiffs have always been protected by court orders with the gvmnt complying.

But i think you would agree that if some crazy judge orders the secretary of state to wank in public because he thinks that's the proper application of the 14th amendment, he could refuse to do so right?

That's one interpretation.

I believe the more common interpretation is that we've only seen a fraction of what a loathsome, contemptible and despicable human being you truly are.

In general @tame @rococo judges should be allowed to order the government to stop doing X because gvmnt can't do it, or trash a law because it's unconstitutional, while ordering goverment TO DO SOMETHING is infinitely more complicated of a topic

Does Trump still want Canada to be the 51st State?

How does he plan to do that?

I don't know what you mean by "national" injunctions. If a company willfully violates the trademark of another company, do you object to a federal court enjoining the violating party from continuing its conduct in any of the fifty states? That's what it means to be a federal judge rather than a state judge. If you mean an injunction against the federal government, I totally disagree with you.

Forum shopping isn't nearly the problem that you imagine it to be. If I sue Apple, I can't just do it any federal court in the country. That isn't how federal jurisdiction works. Also, when you sue as a plaintiff in a particular federal jurisdiction, you don't get to pick your judge. To state the obvious, Jack Smith didn't choose Aileen Cannon.

That isn't how courts work. Courts don't order parties to engage in lewd behavior that is totally unrelated to any dispute before the court. But sure, if I were secretary of state, and a district court judge lost his mind and ordered me to **** a donkey in public, I would seek emergency relief from an appellate court, and for the 24 hours or whatever it took to get that relief, I would not comply. Needless to say, that isn't what is happening here.

I don't necessarily agree, but in any case, this judge didn't order the federal government to do something. It ordered the federal government to not do something.

Yes it was. The argument that the judge hadn't issued an order is ludicrous.

In any case, I never said the rule of law would entirely evaporate in a single moment. You can take incremental steps to undermine the rule of law.

I’m guilty of a quantity of these posts myself but even if you have Lucy on ignore 30 of the last 50 posts ITT is about it/that

Knowing while I went through those posts there was anywhere from 5 to 200 posts lucy made itself, it’s depressingly clear politics has become the Lucy show

That’s a bummer, man

nope the issue is exclusively with planes already out of the USA, that under a "full comply" would have needed to be ordered to come back, instead they just completed the planned trip.

so the judge ordered POTUS to order the planes to come back. That's an action, not stopping an action. the judge ordered the federal government to force planes to come back.

no plane went on air after the order was operative afaik. that's stopping actions.

I understand ja’s perspective that left unchallenged Lucy will just create/have an echo chamber for its bullshit but I’m on diebitter’s side of it being absolutely brutal to not be able to avoid that piece of shit even if you’re trying actively to avoid that piece of shit

I mean nationwide with legal consequences for people who aren't the plaintiffs.

the trademark is owned by the plaintiff. an order will apply nationwide for that trademark, not for any "analogous" cases of other trademarks owned by other companies.

the venezuelan immigrants at risk of being deported that sued should be covered by the district judge, *and them alone*, nothing applying to anyone else should be in the power of the district judge to decide, not in terms of ordering the federal government anything that doesn't strictly relate to the plaintiffs.

It was. And with rule of law up for grabs your side decided the best play was to run a DEI candidate alongside a guy with a tampon fetish. I know you were super confident before the election, do you still think that was a good play given what was at stake?

they don't have normal people to run anymore though

“I didn’t want to vote for the narcissistic nutjob who is likely a Russian asset and seems hellbent on tanking the economy and possibly the entire government, but you made me.”- ThePartyOfPersonalResponsibility

We can survive bad policy, but not bad people. Your side chose wrong.

Yes he wants it in the same way I want to bang Sydney Sweeney.

There is no plan.

Can talk about it all you want, but not going to happen.

Well those were technically words

the world is overfilled by bad people and will be forever (until we dramatically change the DNA of everyone).

A good system will survive bad people. if it doesn't, it wasn't a good system worthy of keeping to begin with.

I'm not a member or supporter of the Democratic party.

Just say the n-word. I know that's what you want to do.

Hadn't heard that. Do you have evidence of this bizarre claim or are you just making s up again?

If you are referring to Kamala Harris and Tim Walz with your kindergarten level description then yes they were fine candidates, a million times better than Trump/Vance. The ignorant electorate is at fault here, not those two candidates. This has been amply demonstrated over and over again. Hell, your post is even fantastic evidence of it.

Best explanation I've heard is:

West to Trump
Europe to Putin
Asia/Pacific to China

They chop it up. It's not the craziest theory certainly. We'll certainly know if Panama/Taiwan go soon. Then I'd say they'll definitely go for it to some degree.

Great post and you nailed it .

Putting its economy in its knees I suppose hoping we comeback begging ?
Who knows ?
His crazy but it’s acceptable because his a maga crazy -> true freedom ionly apply to those we like !

How many times I heard :” trump just talk like it to troll the libs “.
Too many “centered” voters were to stupid to realize it wasn’t trolling .

Are u including yourself in that DNA changing ?
U could just say race too u know …