President Donald Trump

President Donald Trump

I assume it's still acceptable to have a Trump thread in a Politics forum?

So this is an obvious lie - basically aimed at

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28 April 2019 at 04:18 AM
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In past fascist dictatorial regimes in their rise to power - which one's were honest about their true intentions along the way?

How frequently do large chunks of the society cheerlead for such figures on the way to the ''bitter end''?

Nothing new under the sun it seems.


Grunge: way to go, Teamsters President, you absolute fucking rube


by Karl_TheOG_Marx k

yep, it's this dude

Miller lasted through all of Trump 1, unlike some 90% of Trump's other staff, and he got brought back for Trump 2. I think part of his success lies in the fact that he seems to have no interest in stealing any of Trump's spotlight; Miller doesn't want to become personally famous, he's truly politically minded.

I also remember someone claiming that Miller and a few other smart people intentionally placed their office a floor up from the Oval Office or wherever Trump spends most

He reminds me of a young Lawrence Olivier.

Spoiler
Show

:shocked:


by corpus vile k

Paragon of reason and nuanced thought, Marjorie Taylor Greene, proudly displays her xenophobia by contemptuously dismissing a sky news reporter and adds dire warnings about the mass rape of UK wimmin'. (By migrants, natch.)

Lol, gotta love how that reporter knows that Marjorie doesn't have the resolve to ignore her and just keeps poking her.


by tame_deuces k

The US is an enormously large and powerful economy. When it engages in a trade war, it will be serious for those targeted. Basically, they will have to have to make backroom deals, or they will end up as economical roadkill. They'll have to do that very gingerly, but I think we can read between the lines and see that it has already been happening.

The US and the EU appear to be each other's largest trading partner, so that's very much going to cut both ways. The balance in goods favours the EU, which Trump is complaining about, but the balance in services favours the US, admittedly by a significantly smaller amount.

Britain, whose largest trading partner is the EU and not the US, is certainly engaged in talks to head off or mitigate the tariffs, but it's difficult when you're not dealing with a rational actor, and the US cannot now be considered altogether a rational actor.

Canada has a particular problem, since the US is obviously its largest trading partner, and the import-export balance favours Canada quite heavily, by about $600bn to $360bn in 2022, but a third of those Canadian exports were energy products, now heavily tariffed, and the US is more of a consumer economy than a producer economy, and it needs those exports (including car parts). There aren't that many consumers in Canada and it's a resource-rich country, so the imbalance would be due to that, and not to the Canadians 'cheating' as the credulous Trump seems to have been told.

https://www.statcan.gc.ca/o1/en/plus/325...

This doesn't mean these trade wars are good for the US economy. And even in the most rosy-hued historical re-imagining of the 1800s where we ignore how interconnected trade is today, it would still have to be done in a predictable and competent manner, which is simply not how Trump or his administration operates.

It was in the late nineteenth century that Conservative prime minister Disraeli, in England, reluctantly argued that the Corn Laws (agricultural tariffs, enacted to protect the fortunes of Conservative landowners but abolished during the Irish famine) could not be resuscitated and that the age of free trade was upon us. And it still is. The US is a consumer economy in global terms and this is not likely to end well for Trumpland. The bitching about America having to take on the Houthis is presumably because the Red Sea -- Suez shipping lane supplies Europe rather than the US, but the US depends on global trade, including with Europe, and no one's forcing the Americans to bomb the Houthis, they're doing it because they want to. (And RAF Typhoons out of Akrotiri have been bombing the Houthis as well, and the RN maintains a warship on station in the Red Sea.)

China will of course exploit this by trying to position itself as the trustworthy superpower and building the basis for a world economy with less soft power for the US in it.

Yes, very likely. Trump could write a book on How To Lose At Superpower Chess -- except he couldn't, he'd have to get a ghostwriter in again.


Remember when Trump kept telling everyone how great the stock market was because of him? Good times.


by pocket_zeros k

WSJ: Trump Warned U.S. Automakers Not to Raise Prices in Response to Tariffs

When President Trump convened CEOs of some of the country’s top automakers for a call earlier this month, he issued a warning: They better not raise car prices because of tariffs.

Trump told the executives that the White House would look unfavorably on such a move, leaving some of them rattled and worried they would face punishment if they increased prices, people with knowledge of the call said

Like freedom pov, its true republican free market in action .

Those damn communist democrats with Price control.
Where is baham ?


by pocket_zeros k

Trump doesn't need legislation / EO - the companies understand the weight of his implied threats.

Exactly.


by Luciom k

she proposed legislation/executive action to achieve that, trump (for now) just talks.

I guess your opinion about a President "threatening" has changed since a Republican was put in office. Here's your post from 06/01/04:

by Luciom k

The constitution of the USA *does not* allow the executive power to call a company that as a business model allows people to talk about stuff, and tell them what to censor threatening them.

That's a fully unconstitutional, dictatorial use of executive power in direction violation with the most basic principles of the rule of law in the USA but ofc it's Trump who is a threat to democracy.


by Luciom k

The threat of abuses of gvmnt power would be serious but we don't have any proof of that for car companies especially given as I said we know for a fact he cares a lot about employment in that sector (unlike say in colleges or law firms).

And yet , yes , trump 2020 election was stolen .


Does anyone find it odd that it seems as if Trump delegated war decisions to JD Vance in that signal chat? And JD delegated that decision further to Hegseth?

It appears that Trump is not in control at all and just a puppet for other people.


He needs people to blame when something bad happen .
His got lot soldiers behind him to blame upon .

The perk of loyalty


by checkraisdraw k

Does anyone find it odd that it seems as if Trump delegated war decisions to JD Vance in that signal chat? And JD delegated that decision further to Hegseth?

It appears that Trump is not in control at all and just a puppet for other people.

just following in joe's footsteps. have no idea what's going on and let others run the show. this is what happens when america lets geriatrics be supreme leader.


by checkraisdraw k

Does anyone find it odd that it seems as if Trump delegated war decisions to JD Vance in that signal chat? And JD delegated that decision further to Hegseth?

It appears that Trump is not in control at all and just a puppet for other people.

Yeah hes just following the plan. Do you remember when he was signing EOs and hes got some guy off to the side explaining each EO to him and Trump reacting like he'd never looked at it or even heard of it before?

Thats because he hadn't.


by coordi k

Yeah hes just following the plan. Do you remember when he was signing EOs and hes got some guy off to the side explaining each EO to him and Trump reacting like he'd never looked at it or even heard of it before?

Thats because he hadn't.

shoulda just autopenned them, but trump likes the airtime


by housenuts k

shoulda just autopenned them, but trump likes the airtime

Funny because Trump used auto-pen too.
Not that it's a problem to begin with.


by coordi k

Yeah hes just following the plan. Do you remember when he was signing EOs and hes got some guy off to the side explaining each EO to him and Trump reacting like he'd never looked at it or even heard of it before?

Thats because he hadn't.

Almost like the unhinged maniac that can barely keep a sentence straight and doesn’t read probably shouldn’t be running a country.


by checkraisdraw k

Does anyone find it odd that it seems as if Trump delegated war decisions to JD Vance in that signal chat? And JD delegated that decision further to Hegseth?

It appears that Trump is not in control at all and just a puppet for other people.

No. Trump doesn't care about foreign policy unless it affects him directly and/or it's one of the most recent things the TV has been talking about.


by weeeez k

Funny because Trump used auto-pen too.

Not that it's a problem to begin with.

It is a problem if a document is being autopenned in your name and you have no idea what it is.


by Karl_TheOG_Marx k

No. Trump doesn't care about foreign policy unless it affects him directly and/or it's one of the most recent things the TV has been talking about.

Like 75% of what he talks about is foreign policy though


by housenuts k

It is a problem if a document is being autopenned in your name and you have no idea what it is.

It sure is.
Like forgery too I guess.




by housenuts k

It is a problem if a document is being autopenned in your name and you have no idea what it is.

Yeah, no kidding.


by checkraisdraw k

Like 75% of what he talks about is foreign policy though

Hard to say anything positive about domestic policy when people are directly impacted by his poor policies.


by pocket_zeros k

I guess your opinion about a President "threatening" has changed since a Republican was put in office. Here's your post from 06/01/04:

did trump send the fbi to car companies? because Biden did send the FBI to social media companies and that was the context of my post

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