President Donald Trump
I assume it's still acceptable to have a Trump thread in a Politics forum?
So this is an obvious lie - basically aimed at
So what's going on... anything news worthy today?
lol
Guess it's kind of important to get your tariff formula correct, if you want to claim you know better than all the world's leading economist, about the economy, and the 100+ years of data we have on past reshoring efforts.
Don't worry people. Sure we will see a major 5 year depression. You might lose everything. But after that you will have a chance to work in a coal factory or metal recycling plant. And you won't have any of those pesky union fees either. That's true freedom right there brother.
meanwhile......
The firings came after Laura Loomer, the far-right activist who once claimed 9/11 was an inside job, urged President Donald Trump during a Wednesday meeting to get rid of several members of his National Security Council staff, including his principal deputy national security adviser, claiming that they are disloyal. One of the sources said the firings were a direct result of the meeting with Loomer.
It's a real thinker.
A March 2025 survey by the University of Chicago’s Booth School found that 98% of top U.S. economists believe the new tariffs will reduce economic growth. Not a single respondent predicted net gains. Similar surveys of agricultural economists show over 90% believe the tariffs will harm U.S. farming in the long run. Across academia, think tanks, and professional associations, there is near-universal agreement: tariffs operate like a tax on consumers. They raise prices and reduce efficiency.
Trump will lose no support over this. Trump supporters fall in two categories: people who are too ****ing stupid to understand basic economy and will trust the process cuz daddy would never hurt them or the sadists who understand this is bad but get off on the pain and frustration MAGA policies cause people
I don't know, Trump also has a lot of support among the selfish rich.
He could lose their support if things start to go poorly for their personal economies.
We will be in this territory shortly, if not already....
"A voice from the Ministry of Plenty was saying that they were all going to get more chocolate — twenty grammes a week. Was he the only one who remembered that last week they got thirty grammes? They were getting less chocolate, not more. But Parsons would not remember. And even a clever man like Syme found a way to believe it. "
1984 by George Orwell
I don't know, Trump also has a lot of support among the selfish rich.
He could lose their support if things start to go poorly for their personal economies.
They're going to get some bargain-basement deals on real estate and businesses in the next year+. Any losses they incur to their portfolio, many of which have already moved them to asian markets, cashed them out, or invested in long term bonds, will be offset by all the deals they'll be able to fleece people on later.
there's a lot of pro tariff stuff out there and a lot of academic research showing their value
but like most complex topics, when framed correctly, any number of sides can be advocated as being the best - we tend to gravitate to the free market side of things because that's the direction we've gone in as a country so those are the ones who get promoted, they are the ones teaching the next generation etc
same reason why most americans will dismiss socialism out of hand while also lamenting the cost of healthcare because to them socialism has been framed as stalin and not instead as it should be to what england does with their healtcare etc because the "democracy and free markets are the only solution to anything" mantra we preach relentlessly
if you want any examples of how tribalistic it is you'll notice that the anti-tariff people are largely also anti-trump people and the tenor of the argument is very adaptive and seems to change all the time - ie when we were solely doing retaliatory tariffs to china the argument was:
who cares if china tariffs us, let them f themselves while we continue to keep inflation low and maintain a robust economy by having none
but now that we are becoming the aggressor the argument has completely flipped to
it's stupid to enact these tariffs because now they'll put tariffs on our stuff
they completely ignore that it wholly undermines their initial line drawn in the sand that it is incredibly stupid for us to do retaliatory tariffs because it only hurts us and now they are like "hold on they'll retaliate with their own tariffs" which totally shows why it was a good idea to finally push back on china who had been tariifing us for decades without consequence keeping american products off their shelves and allowing them to engage in one sided trade which brought them unprecedented growth in wealth
there's plenty of arguments in favor of tariffs, you'll just struggle finding them searching mainstream american academic and media circles
But can you post any of it?
People who think Trump hasn't lost support are spending too much time on the internet and not enough time talking to real humans who were actual Trumpers.
If there weren't walls in the way, I could throw a rock and hit about a dozen people right this second who would now like Trump to **** off to obscurity, despite probably voting for him three times. That's a sizeable chunk of the total potential rock-to-the-noggin recipients.
He's going to get his Nobel Peace Prize after all.
jfc
I really hope it doesn't increase the price of Big Macs, McDoubles and nuggets. then I'll actually be upset.
they already messed with the mcdouble value pricing. price on them has doubled in the past couple years.
still remember coupons in high school for 2 can dine for $6.99
regular price is now it's 1 can dine for $10.99 or so.
rugged
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I really hope it doesn't increase the price of Big Macs, McDoubles and nuggets. then I'll actually be upset.
they already messed with the mcdouble value pricing. price on them has doubled in the past couple years.
still remember coupons in high school for 2 can dine for $6.99
regular price is now it's 1 can dine for $10.99 or so.
rugged
Use the app
there's a lot of pro tariff stuff out there and a lot of academic research showing their value
but like most complex topics, when framed correctly, any number of sides can be advocated as being the best - we tend to gravitate to the free market side of things because that's the direction we've gone in as a country so those are the ones who get promoted, they are the ones teaching the next generation etc
same reason why most americans will dismiss socialism out of hand while also lamenting the cost
So rather than posting these ''plenty'' arguments in favor of tariffs. You write a bunch of nonsense but don't post these arguments.
Got it.
As he gets more senile, Trump gets more impressionable and more vulnerable to influence, always bearing the imprint of the last person who sat on him.
