The "LOLCANADA" thread...again

All jobs hiring in construction cost are higher today , BC or not .
And 6k more on 500k -1 millions $ house is nothing …

Again , climate policies for housing isn’t the reason they became so expensive has Luciom alluded too .

You name a few already in workers cost and different provincial/city regulations too and I suspect materials too .

The boogie man of climate policies of today being the reason of the world collapse is horse $h!t …

I was answering for Europe because you asked me personally before.

Canada introduced FAR FEWER green insanities so ofc those can't have had the same impact of the flood of disastrous regulations Europe got

Fair enough so u telling me workers , material and regulations aren’t affecting house cost in Europe , they stay basically the same and it’s all about climate regulations ?

Can u name me a few of those policies ?

I did.

the biggest one wrt housing costs is this UTTTERLY INSANE regulation

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Since 2020, all new buildings in the EU are required to be ‘nearly-zero energy buildings’. This will be replaced by a further enhanced ‘zero-emission buildings’ requirement, starting from 2028 for new buildings owned by public bodies and 2030 for all other new buildings.

https://energy.ec.europa.eu/topics/energ....

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wages and materials went up because if you MANDATE something for everyone the supply of experts that can build that niche uptra-tech kind of stuff can't keep up with demand ffs.

if people were allowed to build normally as well this wouldn't happen.

if you are LEGALLY MANDATED to install solar in all new buildings, solar installers (and all materials linked to a solar implant) cost more

Ok explain to me this graph then ?????

https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/QXMN6...

There is no where u can see a boost in cost from regulating climate policies …since 1980 !!
It’s been trending on the same up trend since 1980.

Ps: if u try to by % yearly , it drop massively since 1980 lol …..

That’s not a 100% true here in BC you need to build to Step code 3 which adds to the cost . They also have mandates of going to step code 4 and passive and net zero homes .
Also they are phasing out natural gas which adds to the costs as well

Now in Alberta many of those requirements are not required .

So were all outraged by Trumps and his Tariffs which is good but Carnage Carney has just announced his carbon tax plan which includes Tariffs on countries that he feels are not doing enough to combat climate change .

So basically Carney has threatened tariffs on the USA .

yikes is that true do you got a sourcea

https://www.msn.com/en-ca/money/topstori...

Jesus ya I guess my votes easy again. Running on eco tarrifs in the middle of a trade war

Lol at no point did Carney threaten the US with any sense of immediacy, you guys gotta relax sometimes.

I've been talking about this point for a decade now. As individual countries take action against climate change, one of the big problem is dealing with laggard countries that stubbornly refuse to (which is likely to be Canada under Poilievre). So one of the most important tools to incentivize countries to collectively take action as opposed to individually take action is to work on international agreements where consortiums of allied countries collectively add additional charges on countries that refuse. This is the direction Europe has been moving and it's a good one I absolutely support - and note crucially that the European model focuses on specific industries like say steel that are particularly carbon intensive and tries to equalize for countries that produce steel without environmental regulations and those that do - this is a great thing!

But that said, the US clearly was won by Trump and is ripping up root and stem absolutely any progress on climate change. So I don't read anything in what Carney has released officially any sense of immediate flippant broadsides against the US. I think he is absolutely 100% correct about the importance of that general direction while at the same time has not implied at all that this is just some salvo in the current Trump focused trade war.

The real challenge right now is that a lot of people - lozen, shifty, maybe movin target I don't know - think that the correct amount of effort to spend to fight climate change is precisely zero. Do absolutely nothing. Unfortunately, the excellent technocratic policy of carbon taxes has politically fallen out of favour, but it then puts on people like Carney the pressure to try and do something about climate change that is more than absolutely nothing. So what should they do? Because if they suggest anything ever, you immediately get "jesus ya I guess my votes easy" reaction folks who are going to always always always oppose every action ever. But if that doesn't describe you, then what policy actions are you actually going to suggest?

I think it’s more about should we stop doing anything about climate change just because trump decided to put tariffs ?

People won’t have tax on their a$$ but only industries , I see no problem with it .
We actually need to do something about it eventually .

ya we actually shouldn't if that's what America is rolling with. it puts us at a competitive disadvantage while having no impact on climate change. In normal times i would probably not care too much about it. Trump will see this as a tariff and counter. Its a weird thing to run on.... almost seems tactical to get the I hate america vote

chrystia freeland 2025

uke Canada under any government would still be way above average in the pro fight climiate change camp.

I used to be like super save the planet too. but I have just given up its so hopeless

I think you're putting together two entirely different things that Carney has not said one iota should be connected. There is the current crisis of Trump's anti-Canadian tariffs and how to combat that threat. And there is the long term issue of trying to generate a reasonable plan in conjunction with international partners to fight climate change. But I think it is a mistake to think that the later is some tactical or in any way immediate response to Trump.

Now if he came out and said ya my plan is next year to slap 10% climate tariffs on the US absolutely that would be politically suicidal right now. I don't think that is remotely what he is saying and that trying to interpret the one through the lens of the other just isn't a narrative he is pushing at all.

As a Trudeau hater and a Carney supporter the polling is going surprisingly well and I'm beginning to be hopeful about him winning.

I do need Carney to be stronger in terms of purging the entire Trudeau cabinet team as well as policies, from head to toe and be more pro business which he kinda is doing. I don't think there is anything worth keeping that Trudeau did.

I also kinda have to vote for Carney now since Liberals are very pro Quebec (their best and most important province). Gimme dat transfer payments and keep it rolling!

So what your saying it’s ok to put tariffs on a country that fails in its addressing climate change but not ok to put tariffs on a country that will not secure its border or honor its commitment to NATO ?

Liberal pro Quebec ?
Give me a break ….
Equalization payment isn’t charity at all .
Everyone pays taxes the same .

Canadian tariffs is a response.
Now to believe a country wouldn’t response to a country imposing tariffs with tariffs itself is wishful thinking (like trump) disregarding how the real world usually works .

Sure. Poorly phrased and poorly argued, but yes I’m not unilaterally in support or opposed to the idea of tariffs. I think some make sense and some - rather infamously - don’t.

Doesn't sound like Pierre Poilievres rebrand or "Canada first" is going over well.

This election will come down to the campaigns

I guess that is what happens when the only arguments and policies u had was hating on Trudeau to cheer up your base…
Once Trudeau target is out of sight, what you got left to campaign about ?

No wonder he tries to stick carney and Trudeau in the same “slogan catch phrase” , polievre is an empty vessel….

It's amazing just going caliber of man vs caliber of man, and thinking that PP holds a candle to Carney. Carney is usually the smartest man in almost any room he walks into, but he's incredibly humble about it. Pierre is the literal reverse.

On paper, it should be a no brainer. Obviously these aren't elected that way.

I do think the whole "maple maga" thing is brilliant, and is going to be a real challenge to get unglued from.

Would him keeping the felon socialist environment minister be a deal breaker for you ?

This was much more disrespectful to the visiting team than it was to the United States and Trump.