The "LOLCANADA" thread...again

Lol. You’ve seem convinced of this ever since he endorsed carney (as did most of cabinet) but I’d rate this as one of the least likely cabinet members to retain their post after the election. Weird.

I certainly agree. But also, remember ignatieff? Wicked smart. I remember reading one of his books, really well argued. But the objectively smarter guy doesn’t always win vs the three word slogan guy, and I’m very worried this is one of those times.

Lets be honest Freeland should drop out its gonna be Carney. Im not sure you understand politics these endorsements usually come with promises

Im still not convinced on these poll numbers . Though if I had to choose between Carney and Freeland negotiating with Trump it would be Carney

No you do not understand politics. The lineup of endorsements for carney do NOT come with promises in most cases. When you are down and losing, then you might be able to buy a few endorsements with promises. But when you are the frontrunner, you absolutely are not doing things like promising all the cabinet positions away, the goal is to win while being still as free as possible. A current cabinet member might HOPE that by doing a quick endorsement of the frontrunner that they will be rewarded in the future - that's sometimes true - but not promises and I would be very surprised if the environment minister doesn't change particularly given how Guilbeault is explicitly tied to the carbon tax Carney is moving away from.

Well to give you a sense, every former university educated Liberal voter I know, who was going to plug his/her nose and vote Conservative, has swung back to a Liberal vote.

I can't speak to what your typical NDP or Bloc voter will do, no idea.

Where the Conservatives gained a lot around me are people who never voted before, or voted far less. These are voters they picked up largely on social media. So it strikes me as usual as an election built around turnout.

One thing that's AMAZING is Carney seems like a full blown centrist (which is exactly my jam). He owes nothing to the wokes, and looks ready to totally abandon that in favor of fiscally conservative, but socially progressive-ish tendencies (without going too far left). So yes to child care, yes to abortion, but also yes to reigning things in on the spending.

That's Canada at its best, what I just described. I've always believed that at our heart, that's where we shine. Would be amazing to get back to that. And where I trust Carney the most is our global image. We'd truly get back to being relevant again, and perhaps thanks to Trump making this massive error.

I wonder what Carney does on the cap gains thing though. Truly.

That one I hope they ditch. Wonder where he stands.

Oh I get that are folks that may say OK the Tyrant is gone now we will go back to the liberals. In a debate I would ask him if Stephen will be his environment minister or not and how he plans on getting Canada out of these massive deficits every year.

Pierre should push him on his Tariffs as well for countries he feels are not doing their part in climate change .

The only flaw here is your belief that Pierre had/has much of a platform at all. He doesn't. He's never once demonstrated a solid platform or the acumen to execute one. He's just been busy telling everyone how broken everything is, and shaking his fist. But his ideas are tepid and half baked at best. He was going to win just because he wasn't Trudeau.

Carney is a shark. He's dealt with brutal economic realities before, and he's a PURE numbers guy. If I was worried about deficits, he's exactly the guy I want in there figuring it out. Not the guy spending his life crying on social.

Lozen, Carney is Harvard and Oxford educated. PP went to the University of Calgary and got a BA. These men are not the same caliber.

You do realize no party in opposition releases their full platform prior to an election being called. Pierre has Axe the tax , no GST on new home sales under a billion and punish people that commit crimes. All he needed to do was say Im not Justin. I get that Carney can say I wasn't part of his administration but he was an advisor to Trudeau . Freeland has no credibility at all she stood by while Justin fired prominent liberals and than found out if your a woman and you question Justin your gone

Sadly I can't trust the Liberals I did once and it was one big lie

Here is what we know about his platform

https://www.pierrepoilievrenews.ca/pierre-poilievre-platform-explained-what-his-economic-plans-mean-for-canadians/

Pierre Poilievre News

Pierre Poilievre Platform Explained: His Plans for Canadians

Lozen, cutting the carbon tax, and no GST on new homes, does not a platform make. We've been waiting to hear his ideas forever now. He's CONSTANTLY talking. But in all these years we've basically heard nothing of substance from this guy. All he talks about is how bad the other guy is. And oops, now the other guy is gone. Maybe wasn't worth spending years railing on him.

Again, he was getting elected because the other guy took a historic face plant in the eyes of Canadians. Suddenly that scenario is just gone.

Problem is the new guy is actually brilliant. He's the anti-Trudeau. And that's suddenly really exposing the guy with the BA from a nothing school, who has no real experience or ideas when it comes to fixing an economy.

Leaders can be brilliant scholars, war heroes, leaders of industry. Pierre isn't really anything. He knows how to get mad. That's his one trick.

Such a lame take. Anyone who says they want to see his platform is just a liberal looking for ammunition. But I'm sure you were totally ready to vote for Pierre until he became MAGA

It's because life for majority of Canadians has been worse under Trudeau and the liberals. Same way it didn't work for Harris it won't work for Carney if Pierre runs a good campaign.

Campaigns win elections. Nobody thinks about what University a candidate went to 30 years ago in the voting booth.

I have noticed, the same people that screamed at you for not wearing are mask are now screaming at you for not buying Canadian.

I doubt seriously that canadians hate the american people. Just trump.

I mean, they probably think we're stupid and they would be right.

I think this is largely true. I watched the entire Rosemary Barton interview the other day (After seeing a few clips from conservatives on twitter that definitely didn't do it justice) and it really confirmed for me that this guy is going to be all about a centrist, technocratic economy focused platform. I think that's great too. I think that is going to play very well. Don't get me wrong, I think the anti-Liberal sentiment is perhaps unbeatably strong, but I saw really for the first time how competitive he could be. And that is given that he is a worse talker than Poilievre and less fluent with rattling of the pithy talking points, but what was apparent with his slight fumbling was the underlying economic and policy breadth.

This too. It's amazing that there is already substantially more detail from Carney on is approach to climate change and from Poilievre we don't even know the most basics things like is he planning on cutting the industrial carbon tax along with the consumer one in his #axethetax pledges. I'm betting Carney releases details on his tax cuts to the middle class before poilievre too.

Obviously, he's running for party leader.

I listed two policies that will have an effect on me . I get no Carbon Tax rebate period so that is money in my pocket. I build single family homes and duplexes and not having me to eat the GST or the client pay it is huge to me . I also posted a link of some of his other policies

Let me ask you this were has Carney been the last 9 years to call out Justin's policies? Though he has been there to praise them Heck he couldn't call out Justin 1.6 Billion GST cut which at least Freeland did

Poilievre is running for the prime minister. For years. Endless criticisms. And yet bizarrely - ahistorically - we know shockingly little about what he would actually do beyond the attempts at pithy 3 word phrases. You can be convinced it is a genius political strategy to not tell us basics, but I find it rather worrying.

Lets be clear both Carney's and Pierre's climate policies will have the same effect on climate change?

Ok. Thanks for letting us know that Canada can’t singlehanded change a global program. Nobody is unaware of this so you don’t need to say it for the 10,000th time. Still, I think Canada has a responsibility to play a role proportional to its size, and for that reason I’d like to know what - if anything - poilievre plans to do and if it is nothing then that’s a good reason to oppose him.

Prices keep going up in the USA right now under MAGA. I don't see relief on the horizon, do you? All MAGA is just white Christian nationalism and oligarchy, dressed up as something else. There is NO reason it helps the lower middle class with cost of living. And my guess is we won't see that at all. We will see the mega rich get much richer there however.

Meanwhile up here, was it COVID and a bunch of other factors, or just Trudeau? I think the answer is probably somewhere in the middle. Carney has a shot to distance himself from all of Trudeau's mistakes. He is smart enough.

Imagine not seeing the blatant aggression coming from Donald towards Canada? And then imagine having such small juevos as to not respond, lol.

But they surely are fixated on how someone disguise at costume party 20+ years prior ….

Premium post shifty !

You are in bc ?
The tax carbon wouldn’t of hit you so I don’t get why cutting the tax carbon would be positive for you shrug .

Bernier would be a hardcore maga in US like mtg, boebort and others with no substance at all but hate towards anything not like them .
Not surprise by his reaction (and shifty) .