The "LOLCANADA" thread...again

The "LOLCANADA" thread...again

So what's new?

I've noticed the Liberals are now ahead in all major polls and Trudeau hasn't even started to campaign yet

11 July 2019 at 07:31 PM
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by Dunyain

I am aware of all the conflict with China. That is why I chose China as the counter example. Much more direct conflict, but none of the extreme rhetoric by Canadian politicans and Canadian people. It would appear Canadians really dont like the US or Americans. Which is fine. It is a big world.

Canadians feel extremely close to Americans and the majority of us have strong social and familial cross-border ties. We love America and Americans.

You are gaslighting suggesting that we are the ones with extreme political rhetoric. Your government has invented a northern border drug crisis, repeated aspirations of annexing us, thrown out our negotiated trade terms, and is erratically posturing. That is what extreme political rhetoric looks like.


You suddenly ****ed us and then wonder why we are trying to protect our markets and figure out how to pivot lol


by Tien

The Liberals spent 10 years donating money to all sorts of causes that I don't care about and was forced to go into deficits to do so.

If the conservatives want to cut my taxes in a big way ala Canada capital reinvestment and go into deficits and money printing to do so and invent funny numbers, so be it, at least its to my benefit. It's my turn.

FYI the whole reinvest in Canada gimmick is just that. Even in their plan they fade it out to zero after 2 years. It’s the inverse of the income tax trick where they don’t tell you it takes 4 years to roll in the 2.25% and you save last that carneys plan in the first two years.


by lozen

Hey I agree his numbers do not add up but the experts also say Carneys are garbage as well .
Difference is I am able to call out my parties leaders numbers as Bs while you defend yours

The difference is the amount of BS in poilievres plan is so far off the charts that a both-sides whataboutism just makes you look foolish. Ya every platform ever is a rosy distortion. But this is the most bold faced gaslighting of any platform I’ve ever read. After 900 days of waiting. 6 days before the election.

Absolutely clown show.


by Dunyain

I am aware of all the conflict with China. That is why I chose China as the counter example. Much more direct conflict, but none of the extreme rhetoric by Canadian politicans and Canadian people. It would appear Canadians really dont like the US or Americans. Which is fine. It is a big world.

Responding to you is barely worth it at the best of times, but somehow this whole faux-outrage at Canadian not liking the US when THEY ATTACKED US is just tilting. Canadians are normally fine with the US and are highly integrated socially, economically, and politically. But launch a pointless, harmful, trade war against your closest ally and then trying to get mad at them is victim blaming at its finest.


by uke_master

FYI the whole reinvest in Canada gimmick is just that. Even in their plan they fade it out to zero after 2 years. It’s the inverse of the income tax trick where they don’t tell you it takes 4 years to roll in the 2.25% and you save last that carneys plan in the first two years.

It's really not a gimmick for active real estate investors. There's large capital gains there and nearly all re-investment in real estate is local.

There are some real estate developers / investors that stand to defer a gigantic sum of tax money even if the program only lasts 2 years.


by uke_master

The difference is the amount of BS in poilievres plan is so far off the charts that a both-sides whataboutism just makes you look foolish. Ya every platform ever is a rosy distortion. But this is the most bold faced gaslighting of any platform I’ve ever read. After 900 days of waiting. 6 days before the election.

Absolutely clown show.

Carney is a very intelligent leader and capable, but his 500K government house building plan is a pot roast of crap.

There's clown show on both sides here. Not admitting it for your own side is showing bias.


by Tien

Carney is a very intelligent leader and capable, but his 500K government house building plan is a pot roast of crap.

There's clown show on both sides here. Not admitting it for your own side is showing bias.

Not really. Carney's plan is very doable and makes a ton of sense. We clearly need to attack housing from several angles and all of the pitched policies make sense.

I ran mortgage investment pools for years and still advise for a private family office so I get where you're coming from lol. Cut taxes, encourage speculation, run a big deficit ain't it for housing my friend. Like many conservative policies, it's just a short-term cash grab being sold to morons. I understand you are in a position to grab some cash (as am I). That is not a reason to vote for it.


Poilievre opened himself up for this with his 900 days in the making non-plan, but oh man this is vicious.

https://vm.tiktok.com/ZMBnpcLAf/


by Tien

Don't care. As long as PP defers the capital gains to zero they can do all the magical accounting they want.

Yeah if he does it untill he realizes how much it cost ….if he does it at all .

Always scary to give your vote on only 1 issue and in the end u don’t even get it while eating all the worms that go with it ..


by Dunyain

I am aware of all the conflict with China. That is why I chose China as the counter example. Much more direct conflict, but none of the extreme rhetoric by Canadian politicans and Canadian people. It would appear Canadians really dont like the US or Americans. Which is fine. It is a big world.

Yeah you’re right !
Trump is a model of a peaceful rhetorics while being supported by 50% of Americans .

I mean even many senators , heads of universities , agencies , etc admitted they are scared of him and they are Americans lol.

Man U live in a strange reality not seeing how trump is .
But then again , all fascist don’t seem themselves as what they are so I’m not surprised about your stance .

Your welcome to believe all the trump nonsense and believe the U.S. are a victim when it’s trump that uses baseball bat to pummel people, allies and country down .

Stay in on your side of border !
We don’t need people like PB2000, Qanon, and the likes here …
Thx


by Tien

It's really not a gimmick for active real estate investors. There's large capital gains there and nearly all re-investment in real estate is local.

There are some real estate developers / investors that stand to defer a gigantic sum of tax money even if the program only lasts 2 years.

Even if you think the “reinvest in Canada” thing is the worlds greatest policy (it isn’t, it will mostly capture investments that happen anyways and not drive substantial new investments seems the consensus economics view), the mere fact that it is so temporary shows how gimmicky it is. From my view it sounded like that he needed something that sounded like he was fighting Trump and standing up for Canadian. But the program is so outrageously expensive (six times larger than income tax cut year one) because it is a gift to so many investments that like yours probably happen anyways, it is unsustainable long term.

Thats great this particular gimmick is very beneficial to you, even if it doesn’t help most people. I’ve had to admire policies that would really help me (Harper’s income splitting omg would have saved so much). But that wasn’t enough to sway my vote.


by lozen

You guys notice this recent shift with lozen's narrative?
The champion of whataboutism and Trump's cock gobbler is suddenly the one able to criticize his leaders.


by weeeez

You guys notice this recent shift with lozen's narrative
The champion of whataboutism and Trump's cock gobbler is suddenly the one able to criticize his leaders.

lol


by Tien

Carney is a very intelligent leader and capable, but his 500K government house building plan is a pot roast of crap.

There's clown show on both sides here. Not admitting it for your own side is showing bias.

The reality is in 4 years neither one will hit their deficit goals . Their both full of it
I’d bet my house on that


by weeeez

You guys notice this recent shift with lozen's narrative
The champion of whataboutism and Trump's cock gobbler is suddenly the one able to criticize his leaders.

Nice of you to jump in I am not sure what a cock gobbler is but . I have always said I could not vote for Trump and yeah I said I thought he would be better for Canada Alberta in particular and have admitted multiple times I was wrong about that . I have also been able to say the policies I like so far and the ones I do not

So yes ill call out the person I will vote for when his numbers do not add up. Sadly Uke can not do the same . That is the problem here in Canada many uneducated voters


by jchristo

I suspect we have very different definitions of "experts"

Well when I watch Global they go with University Economic People kind . Bottom liner is they are both full of it


by lozen

Bottom liner is they are both full of it

Degree matters. Sure, carney is probably being overly optimistic in some of the numbers like how easy it is to cut the size of government. But poilievres is the most ridiculously over-the-top magic land made up nonsense I’ve ever seen. It just makes up untold billions of future economic growth for every utterance - while carney does proper accounting and doesn’t take credit for a single dollar of future economic growth.

This ain’t the time for “both sides are full of it” when one is so overwhelming terrible. It’s like saying Biden and Trump both are liars whenever someone mentions the extreme degree and regularity with which Trump endlessly lies.


by lozen

So yes I’ll call out the person I will vote for when his numbers do not add up. Sadly Uke can not do the same . That is the problem here in Canada many uneducated voters

Youre not “calling out” poilievre when you read my blistering takedown of your leader and then inform us that sure both sides do it what about Trudeau. Thats not a call out.


by uke_master

Youre not “calling out” poilievre when you read my blistering takedown of your leader and then inform us that sure both sides do it what about Trudeau. Thats not a call out.

Will see how you feel when Carney comes after your home equity


What on earth conspiracy theory is this?

This is such a great example of how Poilievre will always get a complete pass from his most faithful supporters like you. No matter how egregiously he distorts his last minute platform, you've always got a new conspiracy "whataboutism" just around the corner to latch on to.


LMAO found it. Shows how incredibly dialed into Poilievre-world messaging one has to be to keep up with all the conspiracies.

Currently, Canadians are exempt from paying capital gains tax on the sales of their primary residences, allowing those who own their homes to keep all the proceeds. For many older Canadians planning to downsize, that sale can represent a significant portion of their retirement plan.

Poilievre went on to claim — without offering evidence — that the incumbent Liberals would not let the status quo stand.

It's FUD. There is absolutely nothing Carney has ever said - nothing in the plan which I actually read unlike you - that suggests anything about coming for home equity. But all Poilievre has to do is vaguely suggest it without evidence and BOOM lozen is right there lapping it up and spouting it forward.

This is how lies spread.

You.

You're the vector.

Stop.

Lying.

STOP.


Poilievre not being able to have Doug Ford - who just won a large majority in crucial Ontario - be on his side in this election may be one of the biggest missteps of the campaigne. This is crazy this close to election day


by uke_master

What on earth conspiracy theory is this?

This is such a great example of how Poilievre will always get a complete pass from his most faithful supporters like you. No matter how egregiously he distorts his last minute platform, you've always got a new conspiracy "whataboutism" just around the corner to latch on to.

by uke_master

LMAO found it. Shows how incredibly dialed into Poilievre-world messaging one has to be to keep up with all the conspiracies. It's FUD. There is absolutely nothing Carney has ever said - nothing in the plan which I actually read unlike you - that suggests anything about coming for home equity. But all Poilievre has to do is vaguely suggest it without evidence and BOOM lozen is

Its just speculation we know the Liberals lie , lie, lie we have had 9 years and Carney's campaign to know you can not trust a word he says .


I guess I shouldn't have expected any shame or remorse for spreading a baseless conspiracy theory.

Stop.

Lying.

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