The "LOLCANADA" thread...again

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Another huge mistake and why he will lose. I think Ford thinks Carney may be better for Ontario which I get . The liberals will take care of Ontario and Quebec and Fxck Alberta and Sask and MB

Though the liberals may pick up a few seats in Edmonton and Calgary . Sad to see Edmonton allow the Mayor to take a leave of absence to run . The choice should be quit and run or do your job

Ontario never been much of a reform party political view .
Which is what the PC has become .

I don't understand this mentality.

When governments promise money to Inuits which are net receivers of tax monies and almost economically irrelevant, that's okay and I should be fine with it and I should fully expect them to vote for the party that promises them more money.

But when governments promise more money to me, I should not vote for it?

So when do I get to vote for my interests?

Re-invest in Canada is not the worlds greatest policy, it is simply a policy that would put more money in my pocket and other active investors. More money in my pocket is a good thing for me and for investors.

Active investors putting more capital back into Canada increases capital investment / GDP, which Canada is sorely lagging behind the USA in.

So I don't see any negatives.

Now, do I think this will ever happen? No, because conservatives won't win a majority at this rate and if they are in power with a minority government this policy never passing. But I have to reward them for throwing it out there.

He will not be adding any meaningful number of units in Montreal / Toronto / Vancouver.

I have converted a few buildings from commercial to residential. I know the entire process from buying / financing / permitting / architectural / construction.

You will not enter these cities and mass build affordable housing as a principal unless you want to break the bank and have tax payers overpay for everything.

If you want to mass build modular homes in middle of nowhere on federal land, go at it. But I assure you that won't drive affordability down in the cities.

Well one negative is that it is so expensive that even it's own proposer is going to take it all the way back to zero in 2 years, and it's really only there as a sort of rah rah go canada go trump response.

It's just not a sensible tax cut. Yes, Canada has lower investment per gdp than the US. However, the primary constraints aren't really a lack of capital able to be invested. This tax is mostly going to just capture rolling reinvestment that happens anyways and just coincidentally lands in this narrow 2 year window. The overwhelming majority of Canadians aren't going to be able to take any meaningful advantage of it - but some rich people will. Contrast that with, say, lowering the corporate tax rate or lowering the capital gains tax FOR THE LONG TERM by the same amount of dollars per year and now we're not distorting the market with this temporary bubble effect and able to encourage long term structural growth. Gah the more I type the stupider the policy seems.

Without the reinvest in Canada tax cut I would have been voting Liberal.

This really boiled down to 1 issue for me.

I don't get this mentality at all. The Inuit are net tax receivers because they live in an expensive low population density location that Canada assumed sovereignty over. I don't think anyone wants to give it up or depopulate so of course its heavily subsidized (and would be under either party so bad example).

Yes the liberals have put more work in relationship and trust building, as well as more legally outlined commitments to reconciliation and environmental stewardship.

Comparing incremental tax savings on property flipping that will mainly keep fueling a problematic bubble vs funding to basic services and community development for remotely located people where we have huge national interests. Hmm tough one.

It sounds like you didnt actually read the liberal housing plan

So they are allowed to vote for their monetary benefit and interests even if the rest of Canada doesn't benefit from money being sent there.

But I can't have that same mentality for my well being?

Do we owe them our votes for their monetary benefit until the end of time? Every time a new election comes along I need to think about what's best for Inuit communities?

The budget is very large, we can give lolipops to people like me once in a while while burning money up north at the same time.

And by the way, a real estate developer that sells a building, doesn't pay capital gains tax, and throws that extra money into more housing projects is actually good for Canada. Unless you are one of those types that think private sector should stop building housing altogether because 'gasp' they might make a profit.

You appear to have also not read my response and are just repeating yourself.

Neither party has remarkably different spending promises to the Inuit so you are inventing a false comparison. It is impossible for the government to not spend at a large deficit in the North. Do you want to just depopulate it and give up all our land above the 55th parallel? That is counter to all notions of our national interest and both Harper and PP are hugely committed to Inuit investment. Not to mention Canada's legal obligations lol.

You should vote in a balanced context of your own interests, the best interests of your country, your society, and the human race.

Taking short term gain at the cost of the long-term is a weird choice. Thinking the Inuit are somehow stealing from you is certainly a choice.

Coming up to this finish line, should be an exciting few days! My father has voted liberal for as long as I can remember, this election he was too divided so voted Green party. I wonder how many other people are there, not conservative but don't vote for the liberal party this go around.

should be very close. Polls feel off.

Just hope we get a clear majority with a mandate to get stuff done.

All the polling is pretty clear the “anyone but conservatives” vote is going liberal and both the NDP and greens going down and maybe both party leaders losing their seats.

You should vote PPC! And convince everyone you know to do the same!

Heres the thing, if the NDP has collapsed as the polls suggest, then a minority government means the bloc has the balance of power. That’s not good. Anyone on the left should be voting liberal now with only a couple ridings being exemptions like saanich gulf islands.

Why the bloc Would be worst then the npd ?

The NDP cares about every day Canadians and their influence helped get important policies like dental care across the line. The bloc cares only about Quebec. I’d take the NDP 9 times in a row and on the tenth time I’d take the NDP again.

I would do the same but for the bloc 😀 .
Quebec is the most progressive and liberal province in Canada for a long time .
But you’re welcome to believe Canadian politics is about “provinces ideology” shrug.

Pierre Eliot Trudeau, Justin Trudeau, Brian Mulroney, Jean Chrétien , all progressive in their own rights coming from here .

Yeah dental care, 10$ daycare for kids, etc.
So many programs the NPD pushes while being implemented in Quebec for years already lol …..

Agreed just a majority and a 4 year mandate
I hope Jagmeet loses his seat

I'll make this easier for you to understand.

If a party promises more money to the natives on top of what is already being given, you are perfectly okay with natives voting for the party that promises this.
If a party promises more money to investors on top of what is already being given and investors vote for this, you consider this short term gain at the cost of long term.

There is no weird choice here when I go vote for what benefits me the most.

Now let's go over to whether its good policy for everyone. The rich pay disproportionate amount of taxes per capita. And since Canada is lagging bigly behind the USA in terms of capital investment / capita, it is actually good long term policy to allow capital investors to retain more capital so that they can invest more capital. This is actually in the best interest nationally.

Either a Liberal majority or a conservative minority at this point. I am fine with the outcome either way.

The NDP under Jaghmeet Singh has been completely destroyed. I loath and despise the entire NDP platform so I secretly wish he stays on after this election.

Surely liberal minority with Bloc as power broker is a live possibility between those two. If libs slightly underperform currenting polling outside toronto and CPC picks up vancouver island then that's probably a liberal minority.

One of the silliest lines in the conservative "platform" is that they magically invent saving 5 billion a year from cancelling the EV mandate. As a mandate, that doesn't cost the government a dollar directly, so where is the 5 billion coming from? Well one possible arguement floated was ok that must mean they are planning to cut the various EV supports to automakers. Turns out nope: https://www.thestar.com/politics/federal.... So where in magic land did they find this number?

Well too bad then that no party is proposing a "long term policy", and instead you get a gimmick where in a 2 year window if a business happens to be rolling over capital in that time period then they get a benefit and most of the rest of us doesn't.

I think you are also just largely misdiagnosing the problem. Challenges with lagging investment rates in Canada from what I understand are primarily not about a lack of capital. Canada has a productivity problem. It's multi-factor and nontrivial to solve. It doesn't really have a capital problem.